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#1 Post by Martin Zwick » August 8th, 2018, 6:51 am

Today I received my Beefer. A steak ready in 2min with 800 C or 1500°F. With this hellfire I will have a perfect crust, as the fat caramelize. Watch the video on the U.S. website of Beefer.

Beefer: https://us.beefer.com

Unboxing Video in german: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd_JlhXGh0

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#2 Post by TimF » August 8th, 2018, 8:33 am

I want this. Not sure I can justify spending $900 on it.
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#3 Post by Henry Kiichli » August 8th, 2018, 8:42 am

Hi Martin,

Congratulations, you proud Papa! I remember you talked about this when we had lunch. Looks great!
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#4 Post by Todd F r e n c h » August 8th, 2018, 8:53 am

Looks awesome, too!! Typical German design, better than our American b.s.

So this is basically similar to a restaurant beef 'cooker', how they can pump those out consistently so fast...
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#5 Post by Ken Strauss » August 8th, 2018, 10:19 am

Amazing!
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#6 Post by c fu » August 8th, 2018, 3:46 pm

I’ve seen these on Instagram. They look amazing.
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#7 Post by Todd F r e n c h » August 8th, 2018, 4:04 pm

c fu wrote:I’ve seen these on Instagram. They look amazing.
And, pretty soon (hint, hint) you'll be able to proudly display such gems you find on Instagram right on the 'serk!
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#8 Post by Robert M yers » August 8th, 2018, 7:21 pm

Pizza in one of these? Seems like you might need the largest one to fit easily though. Very cool, I thought my TEC was hot...

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#9 Post by Martin Zwick » August 8th, 2018, 11:56 pm

Henry Kiichli wrote:Hi Martin,

Congratulations, you proud Papa! I remember you talked about this when we had lunch. Looks great!

YES, I am such proud. champagne.gif

I was always a big fan of high heat and crust. This easy peasy fast handling with the Beefer is perfect for me.

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#10 Post by Martin Zwick » August 9th, 2018, 12:18 am

Here is another video (in german!) about the Beefer XL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyD5U4G_NI


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#11 Post by dcornutt » August 9th, 2018, 2:30 am

This is the technology that many big restaurants around here use. Don't know if it is this particular company. Incredible device.
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#12 Post by scamhi » August 9th, 2018, 5:57 am

Martin Zwick wrote:Here is another video (in german!) about the Beefer XL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyD5U4G_NI


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He overcooked the steak! Looks like a super hot heat heating element. More of an outdoor salamander NOT A GRILL!!!
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#13 Post by Martin Zwick » August 9th, 2018, 6:08 am

Fair to say that in the first video from him, the steak looks perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd_JlhXGh0


YES, it is indeed more like a salamander. But in the German language we don't use the term Salamander, as only some Top chefs use a salamander in their restaurants.

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#14 Post by scamhi » August 9th, 2018, 8:30 am

Martin Zwick wrote:Fair to say that in the first video from him, the steak looks perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd_JlhXGh0


YES, it is indeed more like a salamander. But in the German language we don't use the term Salamander, as only some Top chefs use a salamander in their restaurants.
Yes that is more like it. Enjoy your new toy, Martin

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#15 Post by alan weinberg » August 9th, 2018, 9:31 am

Martin Zwick wrote:Today I received my Beefer One Pro. A steak ready in 2min with 800 C or 1500°F. With this hellfire I will have a perfect crust, as the fat caramelize. Watch the video on the U.S. website of Beefer.

Beefer: https://us.beefer.com

Unboxing Video in german: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd_JlhXGh0

Of course Made in Germany. [thumbs-up.gif]



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so cool. I am so jealous! Enjoy and thanks. On my wish list. Let’s here how it does.

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#16 Post by alan weinberg » August 9th, 2018, 6:17 pm

can it really also do fish, chicken, veggies, burgers? Which model did you get? Need more data!

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#17 Post by Martin Zwick » August 10th, 2018, 1:09 am

alan weinberg wrote:can it really also do fish, chicken, veggies, burgers? Which model did you get? Need more data!
Of course, also fish&seafood&pizza&vegetables&burger and fruits. You can buy extra accessories like a burger tray and pizza stone for the BEEFER.

https://us.beefer.com/welcome-to-the-shop/


I got the small one for 800 Euro which you can buy for 900$. Fair to say for a big family and if you want to use XXL cuts the bigger one makes probably more sense.
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#18 Post by Martin Zwick » August 10th, 2018, 1:24 am

I have also a BEEFER cookbook. Here some examples:
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#19 Post by Martin Zwick » August 10th, 2018, 2:53 am

P.S. Meanwhile there are a lot of tests with the BEEFER in Germany which you can find at youtube and all BBQ-experts were deeply impressed by the performance of this device. It`s the heat, stupid.
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#20 Post by Henry Kiichli » August 10th, 2018, 5:40 am

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#21 Post by Ken Strauss » August 10th, 2018, 6:08 pm

Martin Zwick wrote:P.S. Meanwhile there are a lot of tests with the BEEFER in Germany which you can find online and all BBQ-experts were deeply impressed by the performance of this device. It`s the heat, stupid.
Please report back.
Especially if you think the Beefer One is too small.
Did you buy any accessories?
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#22 Post by Martin Zwick » August 11th, 2018, 12:09 am

Ken Strauss wrote:
Martin Zwick wrote:P.S. Meanwhile there are a lot of tests with the BEEFER in Germany which you can find online and all BBQ-experts were deeply impressed by the performance of this device. It`s the heat, stupid.
Please report back.
Especially if you think the Beefer One is too small.
Did you buy any accessories?
I don't think the Beefer One is too small, as you can use it for a 800g Porterhouse. I would say enough for 2 hungry people. The idea behind the Beefer One based on an interview with the inventors is also that you slice the meat and enjoy it with friends and not that everyone has its own Porterhouse. A kind of social happening/event. They also said in the interview that the Beefer One was intended to bring it to friends&neighbours, as you can use a Beefer transport box.

In addition the BEEFER is such fast that while enjoying the first Porterhouse you could put easily a second in the BEEFER and it is ready when the first is in your stomach.

So far I didn't buy any accessories based on the fact that my beefer is especially aimed to use it for my new summerhouse/datcha which is ready in October. This means I also could not report on my personal experience concerning the BEEFER.

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#23 Post by Jason Crawford » August 11th, 2018, 6:51 am

A BGE user can obtain searing temperatures of over 1200 degrees without damage to the egg. Get a dome temperature of 700 degrees by going wide open and then place a cooking surface directly on the coals. Leave it at high temp till stabilized. I’ve measured coals to be right at 1200 degrees. Care should be taken not to fill the egg with too much fuel. You want to keep the flames away from the gasket and the dome closed. I’ll post pictures.

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#24 Post by J a y H a c k » August 11th, 2018, 12:18 pm

Jason Crawford wrote:A BGE user can obtain searing temperatures of over 1200 degrees without damage to the egg. Get a dome temperature of 700 degrees by going wide open and then place a cooking surface directly on the coals. Leave it at high temp till stabilized. I’ve measured coals to be right at 1200 degrees. Care should be taken not to fill the egg with too much fuel. You want to keep the flames away from the gasket and the dome closed. I’ll post pictures.
I've gotten a dome temp over 800 once or twice, but the first time it cost me my eyebrows. May explain why I have replaced the gasket three times.
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#25 Post by J a y H a c k » August 11th, 2018, 12:22 pm

Martin - This looks like it might be the ultimate tailgate grilling machine. A few questions, since my German ends after I can count from one to ten.

Can you answer any of these questions:

Will the small basic version get that hot?
It is powered by a regular tank of propane?
How long does it take for it to get hot once you fire it up?
How much of a pain in the ass is it to clean?
How long does it take to cool down?
What does the small one weighs?
How much do they cost?
When will they be available in the US?
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#26 Post by Todd F r e n c h » August 11th, 2018, 1:02 pm

J a y H a c k wrote:Martin - This looks like it might be the ultimate tailgate grilling machine.
OMG yes - great idea!
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#27 Post by Ken Strauss » August 11th, 2018, 1:10 pm

J a y H a c k wrote:Martin - This looks like it might be the ultimate tailgate grilling machine. A few questions, since my German ends after I can count from one to ten.

Can you answer any of these questions:

Will the small basic version get that hot? Yes
It is powered by a regular tank of propane? Yes
How long does it take for it to get hot once you fire it up? 5 minutes
How much of a pain in the ass is it to clean? Easy parts go in dishwasher
How long does it take to cool down?
What does the small one weighs? 25 lbs
How much do they cost? $900
When will they be available in the US?
now

They are giving free shipping now also. They say 14 days to receive.

If you hit the link in Martins 1st post you get to Beefer US.
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#28 Post by Martin Zwick » August 11th, 2018, 1:13 pm

hahahaha

Hi Jack,

I would say that someone who could read has a clear advantage. Most answers regarding your questions you will find here: https://us.beefer.com


1. All versions have the same temperature, 800 C or 1.500°F.


2. Yes, regular tank of propane. Here in Germany quite easy to buy in a craftmanns shop.

Burner temperature > 1,500° F)
Tested according to Gas Appliance Directive 2009/142/EC
Category: I3P (30) propane
Nominal heat capacity: 3.5 KW
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3. The BEEFER is ready in 4-5min


4. A few parts you could remove and put in a washing machine. And the rest is straightforward steel surface and easy to clean. They also offer a cleaning liquid for little money to buy in the Beefer shop. Here you will find photo how to remove parts of the beefer and put in the washing machine:
https://us.beefer.com/shop/the-beefer/


5. I don't know


6. 3.5 kg


7. 899$


8. Already available, 10-14 days delivery


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#29 Post by Martin Zwick » August 11th, 2018, 1:22 pm

Here is a nice movie about a BEEFER trip in Africa. They use the Beefer for meat, seafood and oysters. In german, but nice photos. The inventor of the Beefer you see on the left side (without beard).

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#30 Post by alan weinberg » August 11th, 2018, 4:38 pm

Martin Zwick wrote:hahahaha

Hi Jack,

I would say that someone who could read has a clear advantage. Most answers regarding your questions you will find here: https://us.beefer.com


1. All versions have the same temperature, 800 C or 1.500°F.


2. Yes, regular tank of propane. Here in Germany quite easy to buy in a craftmanns shop.

Burner temperature > 1,500° F)
Tested according to Gas Appliance Directive 2009/142/EC
Category: I3P (30) propane
Nominal heat capacity: 3.5 KW
LPG-powered grill appliances for outdoor use


3. The BEEFER is ready in 4-5min


4. A few parts you could remove and put in a washing machine. And the rest is straightforward steel surface and easy to clean. They also offer a cleaning liquid for little money to buy in the Beefer shop. Here you will find photo how to remove parts of the beefer and put in the washing machine:
https://us.beefer.com/shop/the-beefer/


5. I don't know


6. 3.5 kg


7. 899$


8. Already available, 10-14 days delivery


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#31 Post by Ken Strauss » August 11th, 2018, 4:50 pm

Not sure where you guys got the weight.
The web site says 11kg or 24.25lbs
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#32 Post by alan weinberg » August 11th, 2018, 4:54 pm

What about this one—same temps and ease of cleaning—half the price: https://www.bbqguys.com/northfire/infer ... 11234023:s

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#33 Post by Ken Strauss » August 11th, 2018, 5:47 pm

alan weinberg wrote:What about this one—same temps and ease of cleaning—half the price: https://www.bbqguys.com/northfire/infer ... 11234023:s
Some good reviews on Amazon.
Doesn’t have the same classy appearance. But at almost half the price seems like a bargain.
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#34 Post by alan weinberg » August 11th, 2018, 10:34 pm

similar specs. Buying one tomorrow probably. And free shipping.

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#35 Post by c fu » August 11th, 2018, 10:55 pm

alan weinberg wrote:similar specs. Buying one tomorrow probably. And free shipping.
check out the roccbox Alan. DOes pizza too! Doesn't quite get as hot as the beefer/inferno, but more multi purpose



I also read that if you contact Beefer for scratch & dent models they have some pretty big discounts
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#36 Post by Martin Zwick » August 12th, 2018, 3:03 am

Quite cheesy the design. Only 500C and needs 15min to heat. And 569$

I am not convinced!


If you're looking for a mixed device (Pizza&Meat) , then I would recommend Uuni. I have an older model Uuni 2 at my summerhouse for Pizza only. I recommend.

https://ooni.com


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#37 Post by alan weinberg » August 12th, 2018, 6:10 pm

bought an Inferno. Same size grill surface, same heat, same ease of cleaning, similar specs as Beefer. Just cheaper.

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#38 Post by c fu » August 12th, 2018, 9:25 pm

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bought an Inferno. Same size grill surface, same heat, same ease of cleaning, similar specs as Beefer. Just cheaper.
sounds like next get together is at the Weinberg Casa?
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#39 Post by Ken Strauss » August 13th, 2018, 2:38 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
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bought an Inferno. Same size grill surface, same heat, same ease of cleaning, similar specs as Beefer. Just cheaper.
Report back please.
Still deciding.
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#40 Post by alan weinberg » August 13th, 2018, 2:51 pm

c fu wrote:
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August 12th, 2018, 6:10 pm
bought an Inferno. Same size grill surface, same heat, same ease of cleaning, similar specs as Beefer. Just cheaper.
sounds like next get together is at the Weinberg Casa?
we will see. Just got the propane tank. Only cooks one steak at a time is the downside--won't arrive for a few days. Need to practice.

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#41 Post by C. Mc Cart » August 13th, 2018, 6:59 pm

Not being a doubting thomas, I'm honestly curious - Aside from the great name and it being a highly engineered new toy, what is the draw of this for all of you? The portability?
I'm trying to imagine where this fits in most people's backyard/ home appliance repertoire. It's like a small salamander or upside down infrared grill.
If you want a crust on your protein and by using this, you obviously aren't bothered with what wood or charcoal bring to the party, why not use cast iron or a stone/steel on your existing grill? My NG Weber gets to 750 or 780, and if I put a steel or cast iron pan on it, my guess is that I get a crust on a steak as fast or faster than "Beefer" does. If anyone cares to answer - I appreciate it. Maybe I missed something.
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#42 Post by Martin Zwick » August 13th, 2018, 11:25 pm

In my case it is the perfect device for my weekend-summer-house near Berlin. I arrive Friday around 7pm and want a short preparation time for dinner. The device is ready in 5min and the food is ready in 5min (including rest period). In addition perfect for 2 people.

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#43 Post by Jason T » August 14th, 2018, 4:19 am

Martin, thanks for sharing. Your use case makes sense. And the rapid startup time does seem to be a benefit.

Chris, I have the same questions as you. Outside of some niche applications or shooting for “cool points” what does this do that I can’t already reasonably do with other tools?

Not sure there’s a ‘need’ for it. That said I LOVE the name and the build quality looks great. I could see it having a home in my “dream kitchen”, right next to the tandoor :).
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#44 Post by J a y H a c k » August 16th, 2018, 9:47 am

The key for me is cool down time. If I bring it to a tailgate and fire it up, let's say I can shut it down at most an hour before we have to go into the game, more likely 45 minutes. Will it cool down fast enough that I can load it into my car at the end of packing up. With a Weber Kettle, we dump the coals, pour water we bring with us on the hot coals, and the kettle is cool in 5 minutes.
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#45 Post by alan weinberg » August 17th, 2018, 7:51 pm

Top pic is the best I could clean the pan. Steaks before and after, one picture cooking the steaks.
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first time tonight. Cooked 2 eight ounce Flannery filets and a 20 oz Lobel NY strip. Probably too much meat for the 11 by 6 inch surface area. Going to have to work on distance from the heat source. I was too close so it burned a little. Took longer than 4 minutes, about 8.

Tasted great.

Difficulty is cleaning. Took 30 minutes of scrubbing the various trays that had drippings cemented to them. Real pain.
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#46 Post by Ken Strauss » August 18th, 2018, 6:23 am

alan weinberg wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:51 pm
Top pic is the best I could clean the pan. Steaks before and after, one picture cooking the steaks.
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Tasted great.

Difficulty is cleaning. Took 30 minutes of scrubbing the various trays that had drippings cemented to them. Real pain.
Steaks look amazing!
I guess popping the parts in the dish washer doesn’t work.
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#47 Post by alan weinberg » August 18th, 2018, 7:56 am

the stuff left on the grill parts was melted on and would have laughed at a dishwasher. It took work and steel wool to clean.

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#48 Post by scamhi » August 18th, 2018, 8:31 am

alan weinberg wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 7:56 am
the stuff left on the grill parts was melted on and would have laughed at a dishwasher. It took work and steel wool to clean.
Alan- just give up and call it a patina
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#49 Post by alan weinberg » August 18th, 2018, 8:54 am

scamhi wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 8:31 am
alan weinberg wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 7:56 am
the stuff left on the grill parts was melted on and would have laughed at a dishwasher. It took work and steel wool to clean.
Alan- just give up and call it a patina
exactly. I now know why the videos show the drip pan far below the steaks—to avoid the drippings welding themselves irrevocably to the steel.

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#50 Post by J a y H a c k » August 18th, 2018, 9:43 am

alan weinberg wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 8:54 am
scamhi wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 8:31 am
alan weinberg wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 7:56 am
the stuff left on the grill parts was melted on and would have laughed at a dishwasher. It took work and steel wool to clean.
Alan- just give up and call it a patina
exactly. I now know why the videos show the drip pan far below the steaks—to avoid the drippings welding themselves irrevocably to the steel.
I had an issue with "patina" like that and I solved it with a gasoline powered pressure washer. Lye (Easy Off) also works well to prime it for the power washer if it has gone from patina to good old fashioned thick gunk.
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