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#301 Post by Michael Klein » April 3rd, 2018, 12:06 pm

Had to pop in here after another amazing dinner at Ostoria Langhe last night. Hadn't been there since last summer and it was as good as I remember. If memory serves me right, this restaurant had a little hate over here on WB and i just don't get it. Wine, food, etc - all very well done.

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#302 Post by s.nellessen » April 4th, 2018, 5:28 am

Nice review of S.K.Y. in today's Trib. Phil V. gives it 3 stars

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/ct ... story.html

Last line in the review: "While S.K.Y. waited for its license, guests were allowed to bring their own wine and beer; as a nod to that early support, S.K.Y. continues to feature no-corkage-fee BYO on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays."
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#303 Post by WvanGorp » April 5th, 2018, 3:41 pm

That’s my “three star Phil.”
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#304 Post by Jim Brennan » April 6th, 2018, 5:18 am

Would it be interesting (to anyone) to develop a list of the best Chicago area restaurants not in the city itself? I travel across the Chicagoland area for work, and it would be pretty cool to have a better idea of what are the top restaurants to target for high quality meals as I do that.

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#305 Post by George Hejna » April 6th, 2018, 6:31 am

I know what Corey would pick. [wow.gif] champagne.gif

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#306 Post by Yao C » April 22nd, 2018, 1:53 pm

Just wrapped up a weekend visiting Chicago specifically for Alinea. Thank you very much kind people in this thread for highlighting Girl and the Goat - it was phenomenally good (bucatini, short rib, pig face).

Both restaurants also had great value wine lists (2001 Bonneau du Martray CC, 2009 Musar respectively), and I've never been served so many free drinks as at Alinea (2005 Pierre Moncuit Cuvee Nicole Moncuit VV, a cocktail of some sort, 2010 Pape Clement Blanc). I'm not yet convinced that Chicago is a better restaurant town than SF, but it's close neener

Oh, and Pops for Champagne is amazing but then you all probably knew that
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#307 Post by ssukhots » April 22nd, 2018, 3:35 pm

Unfortunately, RPM is a mediocre steak restaurant but
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#308 Post by George Hejna » April 22nd, 2018, 5:49 pm

ssukhots wrote:Unfortunately, RPM is a mediocre steak restaurant but

Not if you know the right people.

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#309 Post by David K o l i n » April 22nd, 2018, 6:10 pm

Friends bringing La Tache help :-)
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#310 Post by Nick Gangas » April 23rd, 2018, 8:24 am

Personally I think RPM Steak is the best in Chicago.

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#311 Post by Corey N. » April 23rd, 2018, 8:25 am

Personally, I rarely go to steakhouses in Chicago. I just don't find them terribly interesting.

Also, thanks for the shoutout George!
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#312 Post by Michael Klein » April 23rd, 2018, 12:27 pm

love a good chicago steakhouse debate. amazing how some people hate and love the same places.

personally, I love RPM. Hard to believe anyone that loves a good steakhouse would say otherwise.

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#313 Post by Corey N. » April 23rd, 2018, 12:46 pm

Michael Klein wrote:Pick a steakhouse in chicago - all of them are good. My 02.c
Of the higher end steakhouses, I would say Chicago Cut and Mastro's are in the "not good" category. If you can't cook steaks to temp, you're just not a good steakhouse. Both are unbearably pretentious.
The beef at Chicago Cut tasted like it was purchased at Jewel 30m before opening, except that it wasn't butchered as well as I'd expect from a mid-tier grocery store. The seafood tower at Mastro's comes with billowing smoke from dry ice so that it resembles a drink served at Rainforest Cafe.

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#314 Post by Paul Miller » April 23rd, 2018, 1:11 pm

Corey N. wrote:Personally, I rarely go to steakhouses in Chicago. I just don't find them terribly interesting.
It's been so long since I've been to a steakhouse here in Chicago, if someone asked me for recs, I don't think I could do it.

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#315 Post by John Davis » April 25th, 2018, 1:44 pm

It’s been a while since I’ve been to a steakhouse in Chicago but.... Bavette’s and Maple and Ash would be at the top of my list. The chains are just that and you pretty much know what you are going to get. Had a pretty good experience at Benny’s but they don’t allow corkage, or didn’t, so it is a pass for us. Maple and Ash did allow corkage ($50.00?) and they were allegedly not really enthusiastic about it. But I heard that changed but don’t know for sure.

My issue is I don’t really want to pay Chicago steakhouse prices for the food and then get gouged again, maybe worse, on the wine. So we rarely go unless it is someplace new or with people who “have” to go to a steakhouse. Plus, I can cook a pretty good steak at home and drink my own wine and do so for a fraction of the price.

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#316 Post by p@ulbortin » April 27th, 2018, 8:59 pm

Yao C wrote:Just wrapped up a weekend visiting Chicago specifically for Alinea. Thank you very much kind people in this thread for highlighting Girl and the Goat - it was phenomenally good (bucatini, short rib, pig face).

Both restaurants also had great value wine lists (2001 Bonneau du Martray CC, 2009 Musar respectively), and I've never been served so many free drinks as at Alinea (2005 Pierre Moncuit Cuvee Nicole Moncuit VV, a cocktail of some sort, 2010 Pape Clement Blanc). I'm not yet convinced that Chicago is a better restaurant town than SF, but it's close neener

Oh, and Pops for Champagne is amazing but then you all probably knew that

What are the first 5 restaurants in SF that a Chicagoan should go to?

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#317 Post by Yao C » April 27th, 2018, 10:11 pm

paul bortin wrote:What are the first 5 restaurants in SF that a Chicagoan should go to?
In the Girl and the Goat idiom: Rich Table, Al's Place, Octavia

Fine dining (modern): Benu, Coi

Ethnic is another list altogether ;)
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#318 Post by Corey N. » April 28th, 2018, 3:35 pm

This was unexpected...very sad.

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On June 4, 2017, according to the Cook County state attorney’s complaint, Bickelhaupt struck Welsh in the head with a bottle, causing lacerations that required two staples. The complaint states that when Bickelhaupt attacked Welsh, he grabbed Welsh ”by her hair” and then threw her to the ground and struck her in the head “with a bottle causing injury.” Police were called by a diner at the restaurant who saw Welsh shortly after the attack, which took place near the restaurant’s rear door, according to Welsh.
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#319 Post by David K o l i n » April 28th, 2018, 3:38 pm

There have been rumors along these lines for quite a while.
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#320 Post by Nick Gangas » May 6th, 2018, 11:56 am

Going for a fancy pants dinner tonight at Smyth. any new cocktail places I should check out after ?

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#321 Post by p@ulbortin » May 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

Had another outstanding lunch at Fat Rice and at Mr Beef.
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#322 Post by p@ulbortin » May 8th, 2018, 9:06 am

Fat Rice wins James Beard award Abe Conlon Best Chef Great Lakes.

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#323 Post by David K o l i n » May 8th, 2018, 10:00 am

Good call
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#324 Post by Michael Klein » May 8th, 2018, 1:22 pm

Funny, my wife and I went to Fat Rice again on Friday night and were once again - blown away.

$25 corkage too. Love it. Cool Portuguese focused wine list too.

Follow it up with a reservation at their speakeasy next door, 'the ladies room' - and you have yourself a great night in Chicago.

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#325 Post by Michael Klein » May 8th, 2018, 1:27 pm

Nick Gangas wrote:Going for a fancy pants dinner tonight at Smyth. any new cocktail places I should check out after ?
Nick, check out Prairie School in the Google building. Its the newish place from Jim Meehan (pdt in nyc). I also really like the Fox Bar at Soho House, but that isn't so new anymore.

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#326 Post by Phil Smith » May 10th, 2018, 6:13 am

Can anyone recommend a spot in the far west burbs, like Naperville area? I'm not so concerned with style, just something with solid execution and suitable for a nicer family dinner.

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#328 Post by Phil Smith » May 10th, 2018, 2:31 pm

Thanks George - one of those will work just fine.

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#329 Post by G. Keeler » May 10th, 2018, 9:33 pm

Any recommendations around the Peninsula hotel for lunch on a Saturday? We will have 2 young kids with us that are good restaurant eaters. Open to any kind of food. Will be heading down to the water for an architecture tour after lunch so somewhere between there and the Peninsula would be great.
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#330 Post by David K o l i n » May 11th, 2018, 6:48 am

G. Keeler wrote:Any recommendations around the Peninsula hotel for lunch on a Saturday? We will have 2 young kids with us that are good restaurant eaters. Open to any kind of food. Will be heading down to the water for an architecture tour after lunch so somewhere between there and the Peninsula would be great.
Purple Pig off Michigan Avenue if you can get in (it can be busy over lunch). Check the menu to be sure the kids are OK with the options.
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#331 Post by Robert Pollard-Smith » May 11th, 2018, 9:34 am

Also, on the ground floor of the Peninsula is a trés Continental cafe, Pierrot Gourmet. Excellent food, desserts and beverages (the Alsatian Tart and Rotisserie Turkey sandwich are particular faves.) A block to the west is a very good sports bar, Jake Melnick's, the kids will love the beer selection. If anyone recommends the Oak Tree in the 900 N. Michigan building, ignore them.
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#332 Post by David K o l i n » May 11th, 2018, 10:19 am

Shanghai Terrace in the hotel is also quite good, if pricey
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#333 Post by T Klonoski » May 11th, 2018, 1:06 pm

Take some Garrett's popcorn on the architecture tour to keep the young uns occupied. Caramel, cheese, or the yummy mix.
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#334 Post by George Hejna » May 13th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Absolutely terrible menu at Elizabeth last night. Have eaten her food many times. This was across the board bad.

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#335 Post by Michael Klein » May 18th, 2018, 7:46 pm

Great food at giant tonight. Soft shell crab was outstanding.

Though - corkage fee raised to $45 which I found obnoxious. Didn’t leave me with a good taste after a tremendous meal.

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#336 Post by Clayton Wai-Poi » May 19th, 2018, 5:12 am

George Hejna wrote:Absolutely terrible menu at Elizabeth last night. Have eaten her food many times. This was across the board bad.

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That’s concerning, I’ve enjoyed it in the past, and have reservations to the noma menu.

Was Iliana in the kitchen?

I do think their format/approach these days comes across as a bit unfocused/random.

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#337 Post by George Hejna » May 19th, 2018, 10:34 am

Clayton Wai-Poi wrote:
George Hejna wrote:Absolutely terrible menu at Elizabeth last night. Have eaten her food many times. This was across the board bad.

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That’s concerning, I’ve enjoyed it in the past, and have reservations to the noma menu.

Was Iliana in the kitchen?

I do think their format/approach these days comes across as a bit unfocused/random.
This was the Noma menu, She was not in the kitchen on a Saturday night........ 1-2 courses were good the others not. According to the woman running the kitchen there was no direct collaboration with Noma. Iliana ran in to René in Tulum Mexico and the idea came from that... Couldn't get much more out of her. Didn't really care at that point,. Make sure to bring wine. List is not serviceable (for me)

I hope your experience is better than mine. I have had some really excellent meals there off the "regular" menu. I would avoid any themed menu in the future.

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#338 Post by Clayton Wai-Poi » May 19th, 2018, 1:01 pm

Are they welcoming of BYO... I can’t recall.

I ate at the original Noma, so will be an interesting reference (albeit distant memory at this stage).

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#339 Post by George Hejna » May 20th, 2018, 6:59 am

Corkage is $35. I also ordered a split of Champagne off the list and was not charged corkage.

Menu is geared to whites. We had a tartare (that was very good) that you could do a red with and a piece of pork collar, that was almost inedible as it was so tough. Rest is white.

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#340 Post by Nick Gangas » May 20th, 2018, 9:24 am

Heading to Nico Osteria tomorrow. does anyone know their corkage ?

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#341 Post by John Davis » May 20th, 2018, 2:08 pm

IIRC, Nico Osteria is $25.00. Like Blackbird, I think.

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#342 Post by Keith A k e r s » May 20th, 2018, 3:20 pm

Nick,

Send Bret a PM here or on Facebook. Good things may happen if you reach out ;)

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#343 Post by Nick Gangas » May 21st, 2018, 8:37 am

Do you know his full name Keith ?

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#344 Post by awilliamson4 » May 23rd, 2018, 7:00 am

I did Proxi Monday night. Food was terrific and the service was really average. Started at the host stand and all the way through. Went to Bar Biscay last night. Such a fun restaurant. Food was so good and the atmosphere is great. Great staff and service....BYO is $25 and can't be on their list (which shouldn't be a problem).
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#345 Post by Nick Gangas » May 26th, 2018, 10:33 am

I'm going to Libertyville for a soccer tourney. Any good place for lunch ?

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#346 Post by Joe Chanley » May 29th, 2018, 10:52 am

What are the best sushi spots going in downtown?

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#347 Post by Clayton Wai-Poi » May 29th, 2018, 11:06 am

Joe Chanley wrote:What are the best sushi spots going in downtown?
In my opinion momotaro and radio anago.

You’ll probably get lots of opinions though as folks seem quite polarized on what defines good sushi. For me, exceptionally fresh fish, served room temperature and no crazy rolls.

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#348 Post by G. Keeler » May 29th, 2018, 4:32 pm

We did a quick weekend in Chicago. The purpose of the trip was to take my dad to a game at Wrigley which was on his bucket list. We managed to have some good meals as well.

Publican the first night. It's probably been 3-4 years since my last visit and the food is as good as I remember. The farm chicken with summer sausage and fries was incredible. The flavor of the chicken is great with the perfect amount of char on the skin and sausage is fantastic. We had our 3 and 5 year old with us and they loved it as well. Beet veggie dish and halibut also very good. Only miss on food was the chicken liver pate which was to heavy on the pickled cherries so the liver gets a bit lost. Service unfortunately was extremely slow with a big gap between dishes but we were having fun and didn't say anything. They must have recognized it and comped our cocktails and dessert which was cool.

Next day for lunch we ended up walking through Eataly and stopped for a few quick pastas and pizzas and couple of bottles of rose. All very good, especially the pizza.

Early dinner at Somerset before the Cubs game was also good. Smoked beet tartare was an interesting take, spanish octopus standard but nicely done, ricotta dumplings tasty, solid burger (my dad sticks to the classics). They also handled the kids requests well, cocktail program was solid and service was on point and fast. This place will not blow you away but a very nice vibe inside and well executed all the way around.
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#349 Post by Nick Gangas » May 30th, 2018, 11:45 am

Dinner at Nico Osteria was fantastic. We did multiple courses from apps to pasta to mains. Consistently great. Service was also friendly and efficient. Love that place !

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#350 Post by Jason T » May 30th, 2018, 6:39 pm

I’ve never been for dinner but have done weekend brunch at Nico a couple of times. Always great.
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