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#1 Post by RichardFlack »

(Apologies if I’ve missed a specific thread)

Looking for recommendations for salt grinders. Primarily for Maldon salt, but likely a second one for more generic sea salt larger harder crystals). I have a Trudeau but it’s not great , the base around the mill gets caked with salt and the efficiency is marginal. At least the mechanism isn’t corroded. For the maldon salt looks would be a consideration (after efficiency); for generic salt not a factor.

Also a recommendation for my three spice mix (coriander fennel and Szechuan brown pepper).

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#2 Post by Alan Rath »

I’ve had this one for about 8 years, foolproof, works great.

https://www.oxo.com/accent-mess-free-grinder.html

This looks like it might be the updated model, probably equally as good

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#3 Post by David Wright »

Ikea has a utilitarian salt/spice grinder that works pretty well. The grinding mechanism is ceramic.

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ikea-365-i ... -10152875/

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#4 Post by RichardFlack »

The ikea ability to move the grinder to different jars looks pretty handy though at this price I can probably afford more than one grinder!

Is ceramic grinder (versus steel) good for spices (coriander fennel etc) compared to steel?

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#5 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s »

RichardFlack wrote: September 19th, 2021, 11:11 am The ikea ability to move the grinder to different jars looks pretty handy though at this price I can probably afford more than one grinder!

Is ceramic grinder (versus steel) good for spices (coriander fennel etc) compared to steel?
Bumpity bump on Richard's question. Plus, will it work for cinnamon?
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#6 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s »

Never mind. Just ordered the microplane 48060. Should do the trick for cinnamon sticks.
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#7 Post by Chris Freemott »

I bought The Pepper Cannon
May be one of the single nicest pieces of kitchen equipment I own. I found it on a Kickstarter (or similar)
I may buy two more
One for salt and one for special peppers like white.

Just an amazing device.

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#8 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Chris Freemott wrote: November 26th, 2021, 5:23 pm I bought The Pepper Cannon
May be one of the single nicest pieces of kitchen equipment I own. I found it on a Kickstarter (or similar)
I may buy two more
One for salt and one for special peppers like white.

Just an amazing device.
Can I grind salt in my Pepper Cannon?
No, salt will corrode even stainless steel eventually.

Plus, inside each salt crystal is… more salt! It doesn’t have any added flavor/aroma qualities that are improved by grinding, and it doesn’t degrade like pepper when pre-ground.

A salt shaker (or box, or bowl) with the size salt you want is fine, unlike a pepper shaker, which is a crime against flavor.

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In addition, it’s doubtful they have a WB favorable replacement policy unlike some vendors.

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#9 Post by Al Osterheld »

I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

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#10 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Al Osterheld wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:53 pm I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

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$200 should buy a whole lot of Maldon.

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RichardFlack wrote: September 18th, 2021, 9:27 am (Apologies if I’ve missed a specific thread)

Looking for recommendations for salt grinders. Primarily for Maldon salt,

Got to ask, why would you grind Maldon sait? I have alway felt that the primary reason for using Maldon was for the texture as a finishing salt. Grinding it would take away it's strongest feature.

I made an edit to show who I was asking...
Last edited by Mel Hill on November 28th, 2021, 1:17 am, edited 3 times in total.

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#12 Post by Al Osterheld »

I believe he was suggesting the cost of the expensive kickstarter grinder would buy a lot of Maldon salt that did not need to be ground.

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Al Osterheld wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:01 pm I believe he was suggesting the cost of the expensive kickstarter grinder would buy a lot of Maldon salt that did not need to be ground.

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I should have quoted the OP, and I've edited my post to clear up the question I was asking...

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#14 Post by David Wright »

Mel Hill wrote: November 27th, 2021, 7:46 pm
RichardFlack wrote: September 18th, 2021, 9:27 am (Apologies if I’ve missed a specific thread)

Looking for recommendations for salt grinders. Primarily for Maldon salt,
I mad an edit to show who I was asking...
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#15 Post by Daniel H »

Please don’t put Maldon salt into a grinder!
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#16 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Mel Hill wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:22 pm
Al Osterheld wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:01 pm I believe he was suggesting the cost of the expensive kickstarter grinder would buy a lot of Maldon salt that did not need to be ground.

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I should have quoted the OP, and I've edited my post to clear up the question I was asking...
Funny, I missed that the grinder would be used for Maldon salt. Definitely no grinder needed.

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RichardFlack wrote: September 18th, 2021, 9:27 am (Apologies if I’ve missed a specific thread)

Looking for recommendations for salt grinders. Primarily for Maldon salt, but likely a second one for more generic sea salt larger harder crystals). I have a Trudeau but it’s not great , the base around the mill gets caked with salt and the efficiency is marginal. At least the mechanism isn’t corroded. For the maldon salt looks would be a consideration (after efficiency); for generic salt not a factor.

Also a recommendation for my three spice mix (coriander fennel and Szechuan brown pepper).
Maldon salt is a flake salt and should be used as a finishing salt. IMHO it should not be ground.
This grinder is supposed to be the very best and would definitely work for the coriander, fennel, peppercorn blend.
https://mannkitchen.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA ... D5EALw_wcB
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#18 Post by RichardFlack »

Tom G l a s g o w wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:56 pm
Al Osterheld wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:53 pm I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

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$200 should buy a whole lot of Maldon.
About 20, and they aren’t big. FWIW.

Ok so maybe it’s some sort of confirmation bias but I swear Maldon has a special flavour actually with hints of sea water taste. So absolutely my fave to ‘put on food’. And depending, the flakes are sometimes a little large. Sometimes that’s good. For cooking I often use more generic sea salt.

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https://www.amazon.com/Maldon-Salt-Flak ... 98&sr=8-1
for maldon lovers...if you are not purchasing your Maldon salt in 3.08lb buckets you over paying.
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#20 Post by Siun O Connell »

I keep the 20 oz tub on my counter ... never grind.

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#21 Post by Chris Freemott »

LOL.
Grinding Maldon was not the objective or intent.
I’ve had several larger rock salts in my kitchen. One of the
With a grinder from Costco (pink I believe).

I have maldon too and yes. It’s a finishing salt by hand.

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#22 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Chris Freemott wrote: November 28th, 2021, 4:47 pm LOL.
Grinding Maldon was not the objective or intent.
I’ve had several larger rock salts in my kitchen. One of the
With a grinder from Costco (pink I believe).

I have maldon too and yes. It’s a finishing salt by hand.
I’m sure you saw my comment about salt ruining a a Pepper Cannon.

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#23 Post by Bobby Moy »

I have been using the Peugeot grinders for years. I really like the u-select models for changing grind size on the fly. They last forever. Almost every high-end restaurant here in Napa uses them.
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#24 Post by Rodrigo B »

Like some have noted, salt alongside ambient humidity may eventually corrode stainless steel burrs. So if you're int the market for a salt grinder, look for ones with ceramic burrs.

Salt doesn't loose any aromatic of flavour compounds pre and post grind like pepper or other dried spices. So there should be no difference in freshly ground vs. pre ground salt. That is not to say that all taste the same though.

As some have noted, Maldon salt is predominantly intended as a finishing salt, and one where most want to use to for an additional heterogenous textural experience rather than its pure salting properties.

If you are using it to season something with Maldon salt (however unusual that may be), there's no need to grind it, as long as there's enough time for the salt to dissolve into solution on into the meat.
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#25 Post by B. Davies »

Not for laziness but I use an electric grinder so I can season with one hand and if I need to touch raw me use the other to flip it.


I've never liked using 2 handed grinders for this reason. I think people touch too many things in their hands with raw meat juice especially spices and don't wipe the jars off after.
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Bobby Moy wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:28 pm I have been using the Peugeot grinders for years. I really like the u-select models for changing grind size on the fly. They last forever. Almost every high-end restaurant here in Napa uses them.
My Wife bought me a Peugeot pepper grinder for Christmas last year and I’m not impressed. I have to constantly shake it to get pepper to grind. I’m in this thread looking for alternatives.
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Al Osterheld wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:53 pm I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

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#28 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:54 pm
Bobby Moy wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:28 pm I have been using the Peugeot grinders for years. I really like the u-select models for changing grind size on the fly. They last forever. Almost every high-end restaurant here in Napa uses them.
My Wife bought me a Peugeot pepper grinder for Christmas last year and I’m not impressed. I have to constantly shake it to get pepper to grind. I’m in this thread looking for alternatives.
Pepper cannon for volume. Not cheap.

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#29 Post by Al Osterheld »

Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Al Osterheld wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:53 pm I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

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I attended a cooking class at the CIA and the chef said NEVER use table salt for cooking/baking etc… I use kosher for every day use and specialty salts on a whim but haven’t touched the table salt in 5 years.
Yeah, when I wrote that I didn't intend "table salt", per se. Just meant salt other than coarse salt.

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#30 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Al Osterheld wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:07 pm
Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Al Osterheld wrote: November 26th, 2021, 6:53 pm I think salt grinders are used for really coarse salt with much larger crystals than you would put on your food. I suppose it's valid to wonder why not simply buy table salt with smaller crystals.

-Al
I attended a cooking class at the CIA and the chef said NEVER use table salt for cooking/baking etc… I use kosher for every day use and specialty salts on a whim but haven’t touched the table salt in 5 years.
Yeah, when I wrote that I didn't intend "table salt", per se. Just meant salt other than coarse salt.

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Brian,
Al and I just hope you're weighing your salt (especially if baking). Big difference between Morton and Diamond Crystal.

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Pepper cannon is amazing. Bought 3 more recently. No other hand grinder can compare in terms of output. It's built like a tank
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#32 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Rodrigo B wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:11 pm Pepper cannon is amazing. Bought 3 more recently. No other hand grinder can compare in terms of output. It's built like a tank
WTF would you do with 4 pepper cannons?

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Tom G l a s g o w wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:12 pm
Rodrigo B wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:11 pm Pepper cannon is amazing. Bought 3 more recently. No other hand grinder can compare in terms of output. It's built like a tank
WTF would you do with 4 pepper cannons?
One for my home in NY, one for my parents place, one each for our Sao Paulo and Rio homes.
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#34 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Rodrigo B wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:14 pm
Tom G l a s g o w wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:12 pm
Rodrigo B wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:11 pm Pepper cannon is amazing. Bought 3 more recently. No other hand grinder can compare in terms of output. It's built like a tank
WTF would you do with 4 pepper cannons?
One for my home in NY, one for my parents place, one each for our Sao Paulo and Rio homes.
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Tom G l a s g o w wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Rodrigo B wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:14 pm
Tom G l a s g o w wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:12 pm
WTF would you do with 4 pepper cannons?
One for my home in NY, one for my parents place, one each for our Sao Paulo and Rio homes.
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My wife and I just bought these as our house Christmas present, and so far are really liking them:

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Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:54 pm
Bobby Moy wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:28 pm I have been using the Peugeot grinders for years. I really like the u-select models for changing grind size on the fly. They last forever. Almost every high-end restaurant here in Napa uses them.
My Wife bought me a Peugeot pepper grinder for Christmas last year and I’m not impressed. I have to constantly shake it to get pepper to grind. I’m in this thread looking for alternatives.
My Peugeot pepper grinder doesn’t like really large peppercorns. Gave up on the Penzey’s extra bold peppercorns, they were too big.

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#39 Post by Stan Y. »

Mel Hill wrote: December 5th, 2021, 7:42 pm My Peugeot pepper grinder doesn’t like really large peppercorns. Gave up on the Penzey’s extra bold peppercorns, they were too big.
Yes! I had the idea that high quality grades are larger, by definition, and have this same issue. Would probably love a 'cannon' but I am too cheap to spend as much on a pepper grinder as I did on my Baratza Virtuoso.
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#40 Post by Brian Tuite »

Mel Hill wrote: December 5th, 2021, 7:42 pm
Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:54 pm
Bobby Moy wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:28 pm I have been using the Peugeot grinders for years. I really like the u-select models for changing grind size on the fly. They last forever. Almost every high-end restaurant here in Napa uses them.
My Wife bought me a Peugeot pepper grinder for Christmas last year and I’m not impressed. I have to constantly shake it to get pepper to grind. I’m in this thread looking for alternatives.
My Peugeot pepper grinder doesn’t like really large peppercorns. Gave up on the Penzey’s extra bold peppercorns, they were too big.
Are those your peppercorns in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Thanks Mel, I looked at our peppercorns and some are a lot bigger than others. My Wife buys them in a blend of black, green, white, red. The green ones are twice the size of the black. I’m not cutting them any slack though, it’s a pepper grinder. You had one job, make a device that grinds peppercorns. For $70 this thing should work.
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#41 Post by Jay Miller »

Brian Tuite wrote: December 6th, 2021, 5:34 am
Mel Hill wrote: December 5th, 2021, 7:42 pm
Brian Tuite wrote: December 4th, 2021, 5:54 pm

My Wife bought me a Peugeot pepper grinder for Christmas last year and I’m not impressed. I have to constantly shake it to get pepper to grind. I’m in this thread looking for alternatives.
My Peugeot pepper grinder doesn’t like really large peppercorns. Gave up on the Penzey’s extra bold peppercorns, they were too big.
Are those your peppercorns in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Thanks Mel, I looked at our peppercorns and some are a lot bigger than others. My Wife buys them in a blend of black, green, white, red. The green ones are twice the size of the black. I’m not cutting them any slack though, it’s a pepper grinder. You had one job, make a device that grinds peppercorns. For $70 this thing should work.
A while back someone posted that the quality of Peugeot peppermills had taken a downward turn a while back. Don't recall when the change happened unfortunately but I know that one I gave my mom as a present about 30 years ago lasted 20 years and one I bought for myself about 10 years ago lasted about 3.
Ripe fruit isn't necessarily a flaw.

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