Everyday dinnerware recommendation needed

Message

#1 Post by **J a y H a c k** » March 12th, 2018, 7:54 am

My current everyday dinnerware is "Motley Crew Brand." An empty bottle of 2008 Black Sears Cabernet did a half gainer with a twist off the counter into my dishwasher last night, smashing a bunch of my remaining small plates. I don't think I have 3 large plates that actually match. I'm considering buying some new stuff. Any recommendations? I would like service for 8 so that I don't have to break out the china (we have three sets of that) just because my kids stopped in to get a roast beef fix. I do not like especially curved plates or plates with very high ridges because I find they make cutting steak a PITA. I do not need teacups and saucers. I prefer bowls for salad that will double as a soup bowl. Since we have three sets of china collected over the years for fancy dinners, cheap but durable is key.

#2 Post by **cjsavino** » March 12th, 2018, 8:14 am

Take look at Crate and Barrel. We have a set and fill in with some of the basic white stuff

https://www.crateandbarrel.com/dinnerwa ... innerware/

Andrew M c C a b e · March 12th, 2018, 8:49 am

We recently invested in some Pillivuyt French Porcelain dinnerware from Williams Sonoma. We are very happy with all of the pieces thus far and they are oven/dishwasher/microwave safe. The last set we got a Sur La Table for our wedding turned out not to be microwave safe which is a deal breaker for us.

P. Willenberg · #4 Post by **P. Willenberg** » March 12th, 2018, 10:53 am

I'm very happy with the quality from Villeroy & Boch. I'd had the same set for 12 years and not one chip or scratch. I use them twice a day and for the last 6 years, so has my daughter. They look brand new.

They are often on sale at Macy's or online prices seem similar if you can find a deal on an older pattern.

Robert.Fleming · #5 Post by **Robert.Fleming** » March 12th, 2018, 11:07 am

cjsavino wrote:Take look at Crate and Barrel. We have a set and fill in with some of the basic white stuff

https://www.crateandbarrel.com/dinnerwa ... innerware/

^ ^ ^ ^ ^
This

#6 Post by **Chris Blum** » March 12th, 2018, 11:12 am

Jules spent years working in the china dept. She knows her stuff. Her advice is to go with a good quality porcelain china even for everyday. It’s harder so it chips less. Unlike stoneware, your forks won’t leave marks. It’s not porous so it won’t stain. And unless it has metal trim it’s dishwasher/microwave safe. It’s a little more money up front, but you won’t replace it nearly as much.

She’s a fan of villeroy and boch. She has three Villeroy&Boch sets, and We use their foglia pattern all of the time

: E837FDA0-FCEF-4EFE-A5C2-8174809A4A79.jpeg (20.9 KiB) Viewed 2137 times

. She says, based on her experience, V&B seems tougher than Noritake and Lenox.

Williams Sonoma open kitchen dinnerware collection is also porcelain and is a bit cheaper. Fewer options for pieces maybe tho. No personal experience, but she was tempted.

Here’s an article that she agrees with.
https://www.thespruce.com/difference-be ... re-4156820

PM me for her Cel/email if you want to talk china. You sat next to her in Chicago a few years back.

P. Willenberg · #7 Post by **P. Willenberg** » March 12th, 2018, 11:28 am

nice to hear the background on why my V&B seem so indestructible.

#8 Post by **Chris Freemott** » March 12th, 2018, 11:33 am

Jay,
What does your wife want?

No chance in hell I choose dishes in my house.

#9 Post by **Betty C** » March 12th, 2018, 12:50 pm

All that will remain after the apocalypse are cockroaches and Corelle plates.

https://www.corelle.com

#10 Post by **Brandon R** » March 13th, 2018, 8:51 am

Robert.Fleming wrote:
cjsavino wrote:Take look at Crate and Barrel. We have a set and fill in with some of the basic white stuff

https://www.crateandbarrel.com/dinnerwa ... innerware/
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
This

This 2.0. I like white because it allows the food colors to stand out and they look "clean" in a table setting. They're not exciting, but it's just an everyday dinner service. Also, at around 13 years in, they really seem to resist showing any wear from fork scratching, dishwasher dulling, etc.

#11 Post by **c fu** » March 15th, 2018, 9:39 am

My cheap ass ikea plates from 9 years ago still rocking strong.

#12 Post by **Chris Blum** » March 15th, 2018, 9:41 am

c fu wrote:My cheap ass ikea plates from 9 years ago still rocking strong.

Were they difficult to assemble?

#13 Post by **M.Kaplan** » March 15th, 2018, 10:13 am

Fiestaware. Add a little color to your life.

#14 Post by **Eric Michels** » March 15th, 2018, 10:39 am

Another recommendation for Crate and Barrel. We are really happy with their basic white Aspen line. They look great after many years of daily use and Crate and Barrel has kept the pattern around for a long time, allowing us to expand the set last year. Prices are great as well.

#15 Post by **Brandon R** » March 15th, 2018, 2:24 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:Fiestaware. Add a little color to your life.

We have Fiestaware coffee mugs. I like the colorful row of mugs amidst the sea of white dishes. Coffee is black, so the color is a nice contrast. However, I really don't like colorful plates with food. I know, I know, FWP.

March 15th, 2018, 3:15 pm

Chris Blum wrote:
c fu wrote:My cheap ass ikea plates from 9 years ago still rocking strong.
Were they difficult to assemble?

#17 Post by **J a y H a c k** » March 18th, 2018, 7:55 pm

We settled on Mikasa Bone China at Home Goods. Very cheap. Plain white. Cost less than cheap dishes at Amazon. $10.50 a place setting, but you have to be lucky. It's not like they have a lot of stock. we got 9 big plates, 8 small plates and 4 bowls.

David Cooper · #18 Post by **David Cooper** » March 30th, 2018, 3:21 pm

We have Emile Henry in different colours. It used to be easy to find but here in Canada it seems to have disappeared. I can't remember ever breaking a single piece.

#19 Post by **Mich@el Ch@ng** » March 30th, 2018, 10:09 pm

http://www.heathceramics.com

Not cheap but indestructible and fantastic. Lots of high end restaurants use their plates and bowls.

David Cooper · #20 Post by **David Cooper** » March 31st, 2018, 8:32 am

If I lived in NYC, I would be at Fishs Eddy every week.

mseeber · #21 Post by **mseeber** » March 31st, 2018, 1:21 pm

Eric Michels wrote:Another recommendation for Crate and Barrel. We are really happy with their basic white Aspen line. They look great after many years of daily use and Crate and Barrel has kept the pattern around for a long time, allowing us to expand the set last year. Prices are great as well.

We have the Crate and Barrel Aspen in white. 14 years and counting, only one bowl has a minor chip from dropping it on a granite counter. Haven’t used anything else.

IvoDejesus · #22 Post by **IvoDejesus** » January 7th, 2021, 1:43 pm

Did you try to research the Amazon? There are a lot of different good-quality dinnerware sets for low prices. You should not risk going to the store and getting COVID-19 from some fool who didn't want to wear a mask... A lot of fancy dinner wear is not dishwasher safe, so be sure to get a dishwasher safe dinnerware sets. No one wants to spend hours on washing the dishes after a big dinner with a lot of guests. You need something that is built with some quality, otherwise the dishwasher will ruin it. I had a lot of glasses and plates that were washed in a dishwasher, and never came out the same...

Scott G r u n e r · January 7th, 2021, 1:48 pm

Happy with the Villeroy Bosch that we bought last year in good part due to Chris's post.

#24 Post by **JDavisRoby** » January 7th, 2021, 7:00 pm

Fiesta ware family.

#25 Post by **Chris Blum** » January 8th, 2021, 9:13 pm

Lol I asked Jules how many different dinner sets she has... 10 different patterns plus some accent plates for fun. This is after she downsized by getting rid of a couple three sets we just didn’t use.

But we that V&B Foglia above and Colorways 80% of the time. She has a 4 color combos of those so she mixes & matches in a place setting. We don’t have any of the yellow, but this is the look...

#26 Post by **Stephen P** » January 9th, 2021, 8:49 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑March 30th, 2018, 10:09 pm http://www.heathceramics.com

Not cheap but indestructible and fantastic. Lots of high end restaurants use their plates and bowls.

Seconded. This is all we have. Timeless designs, and we always get compliments on it.

#27 Post by **Paul Miller** » January 9th, 2021, 8:51 am

Stephen P wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 8:49 am
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑March 30th, 2018, 10:09 pm http://www.heathceramics.com

Not cheap but indestructible and fantastic. Lots of high end restaurants use their plates and bowls.
Seconded. This is all we have. Timeless designs, and we always get compliments on it.

Some nice looking stuff. And no scratches?

#28 Post by **Stephen P** » January 9th, 2021, 11:47 am

Paul Miller wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 8:51 am Some nice looking stuff. And no scratches?

Nothing that barkeepers friend can't remove in a couple seconds.

#29 Post by **scamhi** » January 9th, 2021, 1:26 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑March 30th, 2018, 10:09 pm http://www.heathceramics.com

Not cheap but indestructible and fantastic. Lots of high end restaurants use their plates and bowls.

love these plates/bowls.

Victor Hong · #30 Post by **Victor Hong** » January 10th, 2021, 6:32 am

Chris Freemott wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 11:33 am Jay,
What does your wife want?

No chance in hell I choose dishes in my house.

One solution. I will not specify.

#31 Post by **Matt Allen** » January 10th, 2021, 9:38 pm

also a fan of heath

January 11th, 2021, 9:02 am

Victor Hong wrote: ↑January 10th, 2021, 6:32 am
Chris Freemott wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 11:33 am Jay,
What does your wife want?

No chance in hell I choose dishes in my house.
One solution. I will not specify.

Listening to Freakmont on how to deal with a spouse is like listening to the Pope on proper sexual technique!

Victor Hong · #33 Post by **Victor Hong** » January 11th, 2021, 9:06 am

J a y H a c k wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 9:02 am
Victor Hong wrote: ↑January 10th, 2021, 6:32 am
Chris Freemott wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 11:33 am Jay,
What does your wife want?

No chance in hell I choose dishes in my house.
One solution. I will not specify.
Listening to Freakmont on how to deal with a spouse is like listening to the Pope on proper sexual technique!

Which person has greater "event" frequency?

#34 Post by **Brandon R** » January 11th, 2021, 12:54 pm

J a y H a c k wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 9:02 am
Victor Hong wrote: ↑January 10th, 2021, 6:32 am
Chris Freemott wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 11:33 am Jay,
What does your wife want?

No chance in hell I choose dishes in my house.
One solution. I will not specify.
Listening to Freakmont on how to deal with a spouse is like listening to the Pope on proper sexual technique!

January 11th, 2021, 5:53 pm

Jay has a point.
Victor, as usual, does not.

January 11th, 2021, 7:09 pm

Betty C wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 12:50 pm All that will remain after the apocalypse are cockroaches and Corelle plates.

https://www.corelle.com

Betty speaks the truth. Our wedding gift Corelle place settings are approaching 24 years old. They have survived 4 moves, 3 children, and several drops to the floor.

My wife is growing tired of them, and occasionally me.

#37 Post by **Glen Gold** » January 11th, 2021, 7:19 pm

+whatever for Heath. Coupe line for us, completely randomly matched colors that nonetheless work together. I have, however, destroyed a number of them but that was due to a) moving to a new house that had absurdly hard water and b) bad prescription on my progressives. Fixed both of those and the remaining Heaths have survived.

January 11th, 2021, 11:36 pm

IvoDejesus wrote: ↑January 7th, 2021, 1:43 pm Did you try to research the Amazon? There are a lot of different good-quality dinnerware sets for low prices. You should not risk going to the store and getting COVID-19 from some fool who didn't want to wear a mask... A lot of fancy dinner wear is not dishwasher safe, so be sure to get a dishwasher safe dinnerware sets. No one wants to spend hours on washing the dishes after a big dinner with a lot of guests. You need something that is built with some quality, otherwise the dishwasher will ruin it. I had a lot of glasses and plates that were washed in a dishwasher, and never came out the same...

Ivo, what kind of dishwasher do you have that is ruining dishes

#39 Post by **Chris Blum** » January 12th, 2021, 6:22 am

We do handwash our Berdardaud Christmas plates. They’re handpainted and they have this flat gold that might be real idk.

Victor Hong · #40 Post by **Victor Hong** » January 12th, 2021, 10:36 am

Chris Freemott wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 5:53 pm Jay has a point.
Victor, as usual, does not.

You miss my riddles.

January 13th, 2021, 11:58 am

Chris Blum wrote: ↑January 12th, 2021, 6:22 am We do handwash our Berdardaud Christmas plates. They’re handpainted and they have this flat gold that might be real idk.

Yep, our China has a gold rim and I have to hand wash.

#42 Post by **Brandon R** » January 13th, 2021, 5:52 pm

Victor Hong wrote: ↑January 12th, 2021, 10:36 am
Chris Freemott wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 5:53 pm Jay has a point.
Victor, as usual, does not.
You miss my riddles.

Hate to say it, Victor, but I don't think any of us are missing your "riddles." They just frequently don't add anything to the conversation.

I did, however, appreciate seeing your lovely haircut in that other thread over the in the Asylum.

#43 Post by **Paul Miller** » January 13th, 2021, 6:03 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote: ↑January 13th, 2021, 11:58 am
Chris Blum wrote: ↑January 12th, 2021, 6:22 am We do handwash our Berdardaud Christmas plates. They’re handpainted and they have this flat gold that might be real idk.
Yep, our China has a gold rim and I have to hand wash.

Our "good" china has a silver rim, and, yep, handwash.

I've been notified by my wife that we are going china shopping this weekend. Pray for me.

#44 Post by **Brian Tuite** » January 13th, 2021, 6:08 pm

Cost Plus, white, square, hey store well, you can always get replacements...

#45 Post by **Paul Miller** » January 17th, 2021, 12:31 pm

Saw these plates at Crate & Barrel. Has a textured appearance. It’s glazed to and around the edges. But the bottom is not glazed. Any issues? Might need to be careful not to scratch the table.

#46 Post by **Chris Blum** » January 17th, 2021, 9:32 pm

Yeah. You’ll have to use a placemat or table cloth if you have a finished wood table.

Victor Hong · #47 Post by **Victor Hong** » January 18th, 2021, 5:43 am

Brandon R wrote: ↑January 13th, 2021, 5:52 pm
Victor Hong wrote: ↑January 12th, 2021, 10:36 am
Chris Freemott wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 5:53 pm Jay has a point.
Victor, as usual, does not.
You miss my riddles.
Hate to say it, Victor, but I don't think any of us are missing your "riddles." They just frequently don't add anything to the conversation.

I did, however, appreciate seeing your lovely haircut in that other thread over the in the Asylum.

Your haircut comment did not add anything to this discussion.

Milton Hudson · January 18th, 2021, 11:43 am

Brian Tuite wrote: ↑January 13th, 2021, 6:08 pm Cost Plus, white, square, hey store well, you can always get replacements...

This is sage advice. We have quite the selection. Same basic stuff as the WS open table at 1/4 the price. I wait until they send me a $10 off $30 and they have a 40% off sale and restock or expand. We have a bunch of the square bowls, soup bowls and shallow bowls that double for pasta or salad. The large dinner plates and the small salad plates. We use the salad plates usually as being smaller they help with portion control. Dishwasher micro and have put in a 350 oven without incidence. I think my net cost is probably ~$2.50 per item. Have replaced and added over at least the last 5 years without any problems.

We like many have multiple place settings of high end stuff. But don't get to use as frequently as we should.