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#1 Post by Richard Albert » January 24th, 2017, 10:58 am

Attn: Visitors to this thread prior to 3:45 PM PST Thursday saw an incorrect email address for ordering the-correct one is vinoscape@gmail.com

This offering has some amazingly unique wines, some never to be seen nor made available ever again, starting with rare California wines from the 1930's and 1940's, while others are relatively more common starting with the 1960's. There are a limited number of European wines, the earliest from the 1938 vintage. Wines in this cellar offer the advantage of having been in proper storage for decades. 
 
I am Richard Albert, an independent wine consultant, referred by a winemaker friend to work with the curator's widow helping her sell the collection. There are many more wines in this unusual cellar not listed which may have birth year significance and commemorative interest.
 
Walter Winton was hired into the UC Davis Oenology Department in 1957 by one of the pioneers of modern California winemaking, Dr Maynard Amerine. "Wally" was a Staff Research Associate in the Department of Viticulture and Enology for 40 years. He had the enviable position being the department's food and wine consultant as well as for several UCD Chancellors. He was on several committees at UCD where food and wine was involved whereby he was able to meet a lot of individuals in the wine industry. He personally selected the food and wine when Julia Childs came to visit the chancellor. It appears several of the bottles selected and prepared for tastings over the years which did not get opened, ended up in his private cellar, as evidenced by cut capsules or missing capsules and untouched corks. Mr. Winton enjoyed being a winemaker and teaching/training students from California and Europe as well as Chile and Argentina. He did independent consulting work for wineries on his own time which is how he gained respect and prestige outside of UCD.

Please be aware that some of the non vintage wines listed with astericks have approximate vintage dating provided by the department's staff writing on the labels or with typed strip or gummed labels glued on the bottles with the dates they were received. There are also bottles dated by him as per notations on his old inventory sheets.
  • Ibelieve some of the bottles in the cellar were gifts from students after they were established at various wineries.
  • There are wines made by both UCD staff and students from various Napa vineyards and quite a few from the UC Davis Oakville Station Experimental Vineyard. Other unique wines were bottled by wineries such as Mondavi, Silverado, Buena Vista and Martini for UC Davis: a couple labeled for research purposes, some as commemorative anniversary bottles and others for fundraising efforts for the university.
  • The cellar has been cooled by consecutive Breezaire units for decades to 56-58 degrees, so many bottles have neck fills, Some of the much older wines from 1930’s and up have considerable ullage, only a couple are not normal for their ages. There are bin soiled and some water stained labels as he appeared to have condensate issues before he designed some unique plumbing to drain it away. Some corks did fail over time and there are signs of seepage on a couple of labels, most from other bottles. All the labels are legible.
 
Enough background, please enjoy the following partial cellar listing as there are unique bottles which can appeal to the wine geek in many of us.
 
Ordering: If you wish to order priced wines, please email your request to vinoscape@gmail.com

Your request will be acknowledged based on being the first to order and then confirmed subsequently. Please note I am a one man operation, the wines are still located in the cellar near Sacramento while I am not and that I work deliberately and cautiously around older irreplaceable bottles. You will be contacted after the widow(who wishes to be actively involved) and I remove the ordered bottles from the cellar. For some of you, winter is going to delay shipping, so no rushing will help your orders. Please bear with us.

Some of the very early bottles(please see the photos in the last section of the offer) have developed enough ullage that they are most probably no longer drinkable.  There are no price references for such bottles, but they have value as curiosities/collector candy and are significant historically, their prices are to be determined by you. Please submit the price you are willing to pay, highest offer will get the bottle. Descriptions of these bottles are included in the main listing with no pricing.

PDF of complete Cellar with some Pictures at the end of the list (click to download)
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#2 Post by David_S » January 26th, 2017, 7:40 pm

I shall be sending an email when the offer is live
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#3 Post by Richard Albert » January 27th, 2017, 8:28 am

Thank you in advance and good luck obtaining your desired bottles.
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#4 Post by DAVID GIBBS » January 27th, 2017, 10:30 am

Email sent
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#5 Post by RobB » January 27th, 2017, 10:30 am

Sent in an offers on this!
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#6 Post by David_S » January 27th, 2017, 10:30 am

Request in :)
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#7 Post by Bryan Cottriel » January 27th, 2017, 10:31 am

Email sent

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#8 Post by AlexO » January 27th, 2017, 10:31 am

Order In!!! Birth year wines!!!
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#9 Post by chrisloretta » January 27th, 2017, 10:32 am

Order in and fingers crossed!

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#10 Post by rjquillin » January 27th, 2017, 10:34 am

Are any of the unpriced bottles for sale?
If so, how does that work?
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#11 Post by rjquillin » January 27th, 2017, 10:37 am

Are any of the unpriced bottles for sale?
If so, how does that work?
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#12 Post by David_S » January 27th, 2017, 10:40 am

rjquillin wrote:Are any of the unpriced bottles for sale?
If so, how does that work?
"There are no price references for such bottles, but they have value as curiosities/collector candy and are significant historically, their prices are to be determined by you. Please submit the price you are willing to pay, highest offer will get the bottle. Descriptions of these bottles are included in the main listing with no pricing."
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#13 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » January 27th, 2017, 10:44 am

E-mail sent!
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#14 Post by brigcampbell » January 27th, 2017, 10:52 am

Hey, WBer's

After Richard notifies who got what please post back into this thread with what you purchased and why.

This was a pet project of mine helping Richard format and organize the listing. And special thanks to a fellow WB who helped me flesh out the "Who the hell was Wally?" story.

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#15 Post by Rich Brown » January 27th, 2017, 10:56 am

E-mail sent here as well!

Definitely keeping my fingers crossed!

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#16 Post by David Niederauer » January 27th, 2017, 11:02 am

Sent in an offer on the 1946 Cribari "Burgundy".

I have no idea what something like this is worth. I offered $xx.00 but for all I know it could be worth $xxx.00. If I get it I will gift it to a member of the Cribari family who is a good friend.
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#17 Post by Danny L. » January 27th, 2017, 11:23 am

Fingers crossed. After seeing the list, this is the only berserker day wine offering I'm buying this year!
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#18 Post by Mike Levin » January 27th, 2017, 11:39 am

Email SENT! Hoping with all hope. Thanks!

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#19 Post by ykwon » January 27th, 2017, 12:38 pm

Shoot looks like the offer got posted sooner than 10:30PST by a hair. Well hope I get some of my wish list fulfilled!
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#20 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » January 27th, 2017, 12:44 pm

Email sent. fingers Xed.
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#21 Post by c fu » January 27th, 2017, 1:03 pm

Hope You are all playing for 2nd place ;)
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#22 Post by DAVID GIBBS » January 27th, 2017, 1:40 pm

c fu wrote:Hope You are all playing for 2nd place ;)
i like your enthusiasm young man;)
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#23 Post by brigcampbell » January 27th, 2017, 2:43 pm

I guarantee Richard is 100% playing by first come first serve, I had many conversations with him while we worked on this, emails before the exact launch time are invalid.

I guarantee Charlie and his team are going to break some hearts if he was the first email in the queue.

If so, we'll all be looking for crumbs!

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#24 Post by c fu » January 27th, 2017, 6:35 pm

brigcampbell wrote:I guarantee Richard is 100% playing by first come first serve, I had many conversations with him while we worked on this, emails before the exact launch time are invalid.

I guarantee Charlie and his team are going to break some hearts if he was the first email in the queue.

If so, we'll all be looking for crumbs!
If Gibbs got an email in before I did, no one will get any wine ;p
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#25 Post by ykwon » January 28th, 2017, 11:52 am

Reallly really curious if anyone's gotten an email yet? He's probably still working through the details. Well, not that I need to spend more money on wine this week...
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#26 Post by David_S » January 28th, 2017, 2:29 pm

I have not. I was hoping we might have heard today from at least the first couple of people that got some bottles.
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#27 Post by Bryan Cottriel » January 28th, 2017, 2:38 pm

I have not heard anything yet. I am still waiting too.

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#28 Post by c fu » January 28th, 2017, 3:55 pm

He is in Davis going through the cellar to verify all orders. Should get back to everyone soon.
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#29 Post by brigcampbell » January 28th, 2017, 4:57 pm

c fu wrote:He is in Davis going through the cellar to verify all orders. Should get back to everyone soon.
Are you in the car with him? :)

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#30 Post by David Niederauer » January 28th, 2017, 5:06 pm

Richard says up in the offering:
"Please note I am a one man operation, the wines are still located in the cellar near Sacramento while I am not and that I work deliberately and cautiously around older irreplaceable bottles. You will be contacted after the widow(who wishes to be actively involved) and I remove the ordered bottles from the cellar. For some of you, winter is going to delay shipping, so no rushing will help your orders. Please bear with us."

I wouldn't expect to hear anything until next week at the earliest.
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#31 Post by Todd F r e n c h » January 29th, 2017, 8:38 am

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c fu wrote:He is in Davis going through the cellar to verify all orders. Should get back to everyone soon.
Are you in the car with him? :)
It's easy for Charlie to update everybody because he got half the collection in his order

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#32 Post by c fu » January 29th, 2017, 3:08 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
brigcampbell wrote:
c fu wrote:He is in Davis going through the cellar to verify all orders. Should get back to everyone soon.
Are you in the car with him? :)
It's easy for Charlie to update everybody because he got half the collection in his order

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#33 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » January 29th, 2017, 7:19 pm

I HAVE NO CLUE HOW I MISSED THIS ONE! SAVE ME SOMETHING, FU-MAN!

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#34 Post by brigcampbell » January 29th, 2017, 7:49 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:I HAVE NO CLUE HOW I MISSED THIS ONE! SAVE ME SOMETHING, FU-MAN!
I have some dirty stuff coming my way hopefully.

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#35 Post by DAVID GIBBS » January 29th, 2017, 8:26 pm

I think I got a few of the bottles I really really wanted.
And I'm always happy to share:)
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#36 Post by Rich Brown » January 29th, 2017, 9:09 pm

Soooo.....have some people already got confirmation on what they've won/haven't won???

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#37 Post by NoahR » January 30th, 2017, 9:50 am

Crickets. Anyone hear yet?
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#38 Post by Chris Tuttle » January 30th, 2017, 10:00 am

Not yet.

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#39 Post by CliftonD » January 30th, 2017, 10:29 am

I've heard back from Richard. However, I believe he still needs to cross reference against inventory in the cellar, so there isn't any confirmation on allocations just yet. I would be patient if possible.

I had requested all they had for my birth year vintage.
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#40 Post by Rich Brown » January 30th, 2017, 11:35 am

So did you get a response just acknowledging the fact that your offer was received Clifton?

it's first-come, first-served for the bottles that had listed prices, and highest offer for the ones that did not, correct?

Sounds like some folks put it some large orders....but assuming the above, that would mean the quantity of bottles requested/bid on should not make a difference in the final outcome, right?

Just trying to figure out if I even have a chance here!

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#41 Post by CliftonD » January 30th, 2017, 11:39 am

Rich Brown wrote:So did you get a response just acknowledging the fact that your offer was received Clifton?

it's first-come, first-served for the bottles that had listed prices, and highest offer for the ones that did not, correct?

Sounds like some folks put it some large orders....but assuming the above, that would mean the quantity of bottles requested/bid on should not make a difference in the final outcome, right?

Just trying to figure out if I even have a chance here!
Understood - it was just an acknowledgement. I have my fingers crossed as well, but it does sound slim. [head-bang.gif]
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#42 Post by c fu » January 30th, 2017, 12:17 pm

Rich Brown wrote:So did you get a response just acknowledging the fact that your offer was received Clifton?

it's first-come, first-served for the bottles that had listed prices, and highest offer for the ones that did not, correct?

Sounds like some folks put it some large orders....but assuming the above, that would mean the quantity of bottles requested/bid on should not make a difference in the final outcome, right?

Just trying to figure out if I even have a chance here!
that is correct. first come first serve for bottles with listed prices and highest offer for those that did not. So for the later, time does not matter, only the bid.
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#43 Post by Rich Brown » January 30th, 2017, 12:45 pm

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Rich Brown wrote:So did you get a response just acknowledging the fact that your offer was received Clifton?

it's first-come, first-served for the bottles that had listed prices, and highest offer for the ones that did not, correct?

Sounds like some folks put it some large orders....but assuming the above, that would mean the quantity of bottles requested/bid on should not make a difference in the final outcome, right?

Just trying to figure out if I even have a chance here!
that is correct. first come first serve for bottles with listed prices and highest offer for those that did not. So for the later, time does not matter, only the bid.
Cool, thanks Charlie.

Any thoughts on posting the final hammer price for the bottles that were bid on after all is said/done?

Feel like that would be ideal to see.....and either make me feel better or worse about my bids :)

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#44 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » January 30th, 2017, 12:46 pm

I'm more interested if some knew about this offer before 10:30 Pactime on B-Day. It was not among my previews on that B-Day forum.
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#45 Post by David_S » January 30th, 2017, 1:22 pm

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:I'm more interested if some knew about this offer before 10:30 Pactime on B-Day. It was not among my previews on that B-Day forum.
I know it was there the day before. I printed out the list to look at later in the evening. My memory is so poor I can't remember if there was a special preview of the auction or it was in with everything else. I also seem to recall I stumbled on it later in the day wondering why I hadn't seen it earlier. Maybe it was added later in the day.
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#46 Post by David_S » January 30th, 2017, 1:24 pm

No email to tell me he got my email. I guess I don't understand really. There is a list posted of what should be in the cellar so as emails came in the items can just be crossed off and that's that right? Unless the concern is the original list might be off.
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#47 Post by Danny L. » January 30th, 2017, 1:39 pm

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:I'm more interested if some knew about this offer before 10:30 Pactime on B-Day. It was not among my previews on that B-Day forum.
The listing was definitely up during the previews, and the full list was available. I downloaded it to review the night prior. The only thing that changed was the email address.

Because this isn't a traditional retail operation, I think we should give Richard some leeway. He is, after all, helping a widow clear out her late husband's collection.
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#48 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » January 30th, 2017, 2:13 pm

Definitely not up in my B-Day Preview forum!

I had a very light clinic Thursday and went thru every thread in all three forums by 3 PM Pactime: Newbies, early ordering and previews. I ordered on Thursday from Nola & Bryan.

I did not review these forums after 3 PM.
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#49 Post by c fu » January 30th, 2017, 2:23 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
c fu wrote:
Rich Brown wrote:So did you get a response just acknowledging the fact that your offer was received Clifton?

it's first-come, first-served for the bottles that had listed prices, and highest offer for the ones that did not, correct?

Sounds like some folks put it some large orders....but assuming the above, that would mean the quantity of bottles requested/bid on should not make a difference in the final outcome, right?

Just trying to figure out if I even have a chance here!
that is correct. first come first serve for bottles with listed prices and highest offer for those that did not. So for the later, time does not matter, only the bid.
Cool, thanks Charlie.

Any thoughts on posting the final hammer price for the bottles that were bid on after all is said/done?

Feel like that would be ideal to see.....and either make me feel better or worse about my bids :)
probably up to the OP. Would be fun though.
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#50 Post by c fu » January 30th, 2017, 2:24 pm

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:Definitely not up in my B-Day Preview forum!

I had a very light clinic Thursday and went thru every thread in all three forums by 3 PM Pactime: Newbies, early ordering and previews. I ordered on Thursday from Nola & Bryan.

I did not review these forums after 3 PM.
it was there because i complained to Todd that I have no advantage over you plebs if you all know exactly when the offer goes live. [snort.gif]
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