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#251 Post by Bdklein » July 15th, 2019, 2:45 pm

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Time to look at crop levels and thinning programs.

Also looking at what I hope is the final mildew prevention spray.

Still have some unsold fruit that might get custom crushed, we'll see.
Casey, thanks for your posts . Are these “normal” situations this time of year . Any anomalies for 2019?
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#252 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 15th, 2019, 4:54 pm

Bdklein wrote:
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Time to look at crop levels and thinning programs.

Also looking at what I hope is the final mildew prevention spray.

Still have some unsold fruit that might get custom crushed, we'll see.
Casey, thanks for your posts . Are these “normal” situations this time of year . Any anomalies for 2019?
Well, I sure haven't had to hustle this hard to sell grapes in about 3-4 years, that's for sure. I'm in some conversations now trying to decide what I'm going to do.

Other things unique to 2019 is all of the rain that fell right before bloom. Canopy growth has been insane in many areas. This might have an adverse effect on fruit quality, with less light reaching the fruit zone. It's also a concern for fungus issues. Less air and sunlight effecting the fruit. It's also hampers spray penetration. I looked pretty hard again today and couldn't find mildew!

We are just now looking at irrigating some of the shallow soiled spots, with still a high percentage of fields still actively growing.

I did fill out my crop estimate for all 30 fields. My top 4 guys will do the same this week and I'll look them over. Overall I think the crop is OK but not huge. We'll see what my guys think.
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#253 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 15th, 2019, 4:58 pm

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#254 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 15th, 2019, 5:35 pm

I walked the vineyard again today, and I will change my earlier take on the crop - at this point - as average to large clusters, medium sized berries. And I'll stick with "lots of clusters."
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#255 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 17th, 2019, 5:20 pm

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Well, well what do we have here? I think this proves that these very efficient vines with all of this canopy have made up some ground. I'd say we're now about at our 20 average is the sense of timing. Going out on a limb and say first day of sparkling harvest will be August 28th.
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#256 Post by Andrew Demaree » July 17th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Is that Pinot, Casey?

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#257 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 17th, 2019, 7:01 pm

Yes sir clone 115. I did see a Facebook post about Cabernet in 'Napa' with a colored berry
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#258 Post by Andrew Demaree » July 17th, 2019, 8:25 pm

I don’t have much experience around Pinot vines. Is the range of grape sizes in that cluster typical? I don’t remember seeing such a range before, and wasn’t sure if that’s because I’m more used to seeing Cabernet or just poor memory because it’s been a few years since I was around mid-summer vines.

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#259 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 17th, 2019, 9:02 pm

I sure think I've posted numerous pics of the 'hens&chicks' or 'peas&punkins' that's is common in pinot and Chard in our region.
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#260 Post by Andrew Demaree » July 17th, 2019, 9:46 pm

Ah, yes. Now that you refer to those names, I do recall that from a previous vintage thread.

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#261 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 19th, 2019, 5:24 am

Yesterday's evening walk in the vineyard showed that the veraison process has indeed started. Not widespread, but color showing in the traditionally early spots: one row about five rows in (no idea why this row) and of course in the St. George rootstock block. An exciting part of the annual winegrowing process. [cheers.gif]
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#262 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 19th, 2019, 8:39 pm

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#263 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 24th, 2019, 8:42 am

Beautiful growing weather. Of note: most years when you see a single berry like Casey shows above, the vineyard takes off and in days you have veraison at 20-30%. Not this year. My single berry of color has turned into 4 berries on that cluster. An extensive walk in the vineyard yesterday showed some single colored berries, but less than 1% of the vineyard.
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#264 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 24th, 2019, 3:20 pm

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#265 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 24th, 2019, 3:22 pm

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#266 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 26th, 2019, 6:24 am

Both crews doing final pass lifting wires and suckering. I've seen very little burn with the recent heat. Finally starting to irrigate some fields now, other may not see a single drop. Will probably start weak shoot thinning next week. Crop load still has me stumped. I've submitted my numbers to all of my clients, but starting to think there's less fruit out there.
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#267 Post by GregP » July 26th, 2019, 12:50 pm

Casey, I hope you meant irriGate :-)
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#268 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 26th, 2019, 3:06 pm

GregP wrote:
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Casey, I hope you meant irriGate :-)
Thanks Greg. Jesus, people are actually READING this thread? Nice to know!
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#269 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 27th, 2019, 7:25 am

Yes, Casey, the record shows more than 14,000 views for 2019!
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#270 Post by GregP » July 27th, 2019, 11:49 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
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Casey, I hope you meant irriGate :-)
Thanks Greg. Jesus, people are actually READING this thread? Nice to know!
Casey, enjoying your posts for a long while, and I am sure I am not the only one.
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#271 Post by R M Kriete » July 28th, 2019, 12:03 pm

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#272 Post by bretrooks » July 29th, 2019, 3:51 pm

+1. Thanks to those of you who are willing to share about the inside baseball of growing and winemaking!

(This thread is the page on WB which I have bookmarked. I'll catch up on what's in here first and then hit the "Active Topics" link to see what else is going on.)
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#273 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 29th, 2019, 5:11 pm

Poked my head in a few fields and color is racing along. Finally seeing some shallow soiled areas slowing down. Still some crazy ass growth in dry farmed pinot on St George (photos in a couple of days). Hosting my big visit with Roederer tomorrow. They now buy over 180 tons from us. Expecting many more vineyard visits in the next two weeks. Lots of winemakers are getting tired of lavish vacations so it's time to come tell me what I've been doing wrong all summer!
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#274 Post by N Weis » July 29th, 2019, 6:41 pm

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Poked my head in a few fields and color is racing along. Finally seeing some shallow soiled areas slowing down. Still some crazy ass growth in dry farmed pinot on St George (photos in a couple of days). Hosting my big visit with Roederer tomorrow. They now but over 180 tons from us. Expecting many more vineyard visits in the next two weeks. Lots of winemakers are getting tired of lavish vacations so it's time to come tell me what I've been doing wrong all summer!
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#275 Post by Karen Troisi » July 30th, 2019, 8:22 pm

Things are moving along nicely! Took this one at the winery in St. Helena while bottling our 2017 reds today.
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#276 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 31st, 2019, 10:33 am

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As promised. 12 foot wide rows (that was life in 1975) with crazy growth on the last day of July!
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#277 Post by Casey Hartlip » July 31st, 2019, 10:34 am

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#278 Post by Ben M a n d l e r » July 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm

Some of the vineyards in the Russian River Valley are getting sufficiently close to full color that tourists are starting to pull off the road and pluck clusters off the ends of rows. A shame, really, considering the blackberries are fully loaded right now and easy picking everywhere you look.
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#279 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 31st, 2019, 8:47 pm

Ben M a n d l e r wrote:
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Some of the vineyards in the Russian River Valley are getting sufficiently close to full color that tourists are starting to pull off the road and pluck clusters off the ends of rows. A shame, really, considering the blackberries are fully loaded right now and easy picking everywhere you look.
I am constantly on the lookout for these poachers and throw them off any property in the neighborhood.
"Oh, we didn't know anyone owned this." Well you sure don't, and there are farmers making their livings off those clusters you thought came with the price of your wine country vacation room.

Casey and I have argued about this before - he not thinking this is welcoming to tourism. I hold my line, same as all the other years.
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#280 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 1st, 2019, 5:51 am

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#281 Post by R M Kriete » August 1st, 2019, 7:44 am

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]I am constantly on the lookout for these poachers and throw them off any property in the neighborhood.
"Oh, we didn't know anyone owned this.".
Yeah, it's amazing how vines on those un-owned pieces of land manage to grow in perfectly straight rows and tie themselves to guide wires. [rofl.gif]

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#282 Post by Paul Gordon » August 1st, 2019, 9:22 am

July is a wrap and was a cool one - average high was 77F and average low 54F. These are 2-3F below historical averages.
I am thankful I am not growing in Cote Rotie. Last month they had an average high of 88F and average low of 66F.

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#283 Post by Ben M a n d l e r » August 1st, 2019, 5:59 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
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Ben M a n d l e r wrote:
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Some of the vineyards in the Russian River Valley are getting sufficiently close to full color that tourists are starting to pull off the road and pluck clusters off the ends of rows. A shame, really, considering the blackberries are fully loaded right now and easy picking everywhere you look.
I am constantly on the lookout for these poachers and throw them off any property in the neighborhood.
"Oh, we didn't know anyone owned this." Well you sure don't, and there are farmers making their livings off those clusters you thought came with the price of your wine country vacation room.

Casey and I have argued about this before - he not thinking this is welcoming to tourism. I hold my line, same as all the other years.
If the grapes were ripe one might levy a fee for such a thing...but at this stage it's just disappointing for everyone involved. A kind of vandalism that hurts everyone.
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#284 Post by Kim Z » August 1st, 2019, 6:15 pm

Paul Gordon wrote:
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July is a wrap and was a cool one - average high was 77F and average low 54F. These are 2-3F below historical averages.
I am thankful I am not growing in Cote Rotie. Last month they had an average high of 88F and average low of 66F.

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Seems CA is cooler than the Rhone this year. I wonder if the '19 Rhone reds will be more Californian than California's?
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#285 Post by Eric Lundblad » August 1st, 2019, 10:29 pm

Seems like CA is cooler than most places this...none of my foothills fruit has started veraison yet!
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#286 Post by Paul Gordon » August 2nd, 2019, 10:00 am

Kim Z wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 6:15 pm
Paul Gordon wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 9:22 am
July is a wrap and was a cool one - average high was 77F and average low 54F. These are 2-3F below historical averages.
I am thankful I am not growing in Cote Rotie. Last month they had an average high of 88F and average low of 66F.

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Seems CA is cooler than the Rhone this year. I wonder if the '19 Rhone reds will be more Californian than California's?
Kim

Our vineyard has been much cooler than Cote Rotie 4 of the last 5 years. Only in 2016 were temps close, with Cote Rotie just a little warmer.

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#287 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 4th, 2019, 8:27 am

We are having warm evenings, cool mornings, and hot afternoons. Pretty much perfect for growing Cab.
My own is perhaps at 50% - the point at which you wonder if the greens will ever color up. I was advised several years ago to drop anything that was not keeping up at the 50% veraison mark. I dropped fruit which I have later learned that - in my vineyard - DO catch up. Since my vineyard is in my back yard, I can taste frequently as we move toward harvest, and drop anything that does not fit the flavor profile. I can and do finesse each vine and most clusters. I want only the best to make it to harvest (bottle).
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#288 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 4th, 2019, 8:54 am

In many of our fields we do a 'green drop'. When the overall crop is at 50-60% color we seek out clusters that are only 5-10% colored. Those will generally never catch up. The problem is at harvest they will all be colored, but the laggers aren't at the same sugar levels, even though they look like it. More passes through the vineyard and more dollars spent.
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#289 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 4th, 2019, 10:43 am

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In many of our fields we do a 'green drop'. When the overall crop is at 50-60% color we seek out clusters that are only 5-10% colored. Those will generally never catch up. The problem is at harvest they will all be colored, but the laggers aren't at the same sugar levels, even though they look like it. More passes through the vineyard and more dollars spent.
Agreed. I can make those extra passes because my ranch is so small. Much of the dropping or selecting is rather intuitive. I know the vines that need extra scrutiny - they are the ones where there may be color at harvest, but the flavor is not where it needs to be.
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#290 Post by Paul Gordon » August 4th, 2019, 8:53 pm

I scoured the vineyard but not a pink berry to be found. Maybe 7-10 days away, which would match last year.

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#291 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 5th, 2019, 4:55 pm

Two more winemaker visits today before lunch. Both had no complaints. Weather supposed to cool in another day. Trying to find a couple of fun activities for me and Lynne before harvest. Now with the new dog, it's a bit more difficult. Deer hunting season starts this Saturday. Hope to post pics of dead animals soon
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#292 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 6th, 2019, 5:29 pm

What a difference a few miles make: I left the job in Philo and my car temp read 83 degrees. I pop over the hill and get out to gas up in Ukiah.....97. That's why Ukiah is like the Rhone, and Anderson Valley is more like Burgundy.
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#293 Post by Ben M a n d l e r » August 6th, 2019, 6:17 pm

Yesterday the fog lingered til late morning and there were at least some clouds in the sky all day. As far as I can tell, it was the first time since late May that we haven't had clear blue skies in the afternoon here in the Middle Reach of the Russian River Valley.
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#294 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 8th, 2019, 5:10 pm

The crew is finishing up some final wire lifting and hand hedging. As we're about a month out some folks asking for some unpaid time off. I've been helping my builder buddy with a bathroom remodel in the owners cabin: changing out fiberglass shower and changing plumbing, New tile shower and floors. Gonna be nice but taking more time/money than I want. Ladies continue to drop crop in high end pinot fields.

We finally found a touch of mildew in some still wine Chardonnay (it HAD to happen)! Going with 15 lbs/acre sulfur dust as we're SO close to 10 brix when mildew isn't an issue anymore.

Camping over at Scharffenberger redwood grove this weekend as deer season begins Saturday morning. Friday afternoon begins activities with the famed $10 bocce ball game, where numerous beverages will be consumed. With respect to Merrill, I will not post pics of dead animals on this thread. Instead I will on the asylum where I have been encouraged to share hunting stuff.
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#295 Post by Evan Pontoriero » August 9th, 2019, 8:55 am

Speaking of tourists and taking things. Someone pulled over and cut a bunch of roses from our driveway. Didn't come to taste, just cut roses and left.

On brighter things PGap is at about 50% color on Pinot. Heading up for a final spray on the Syrah so I'll know more soon.
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#296 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 11th, 2019, 7:10 am

An early morning survey of the vineyard showed that things are moving ahead nicely. I'd say about 75% color...my job is to continue to edit out the stuff that I do not want in the bottle. The easiest call is the cluster that remains green or mostly green. Gone to the ground.

I pulled a few berries and they are actually tasty...not harvest tasty, but they do not irritate your mouth. A quick pull of a few ripe looking berries measured at 17 Brix. I'll have to look at previous vintage logs to see if I can estimate a harvest date. But there are so many variables, mainly how many very warm days we get here on out. Weather forecast shows we are good for the coming week.
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#297 Post by Evan Pontoriero » August 11th, 2019, 12:01 pm

At Cloud Twelve. First Syrah berries getting color. Ehrenfelser about 25%. Zin about 25% with a lot of shatter. Heavy crop this year at the top of Sonoma Mountain for Syrah and Ehrenfelser.
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Re: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread

#298 Post by Evan Pontoriero » August 11th, 2019, 2:10 pm

Pretty serious PM pressure right now, will pay to pay attention and on program.
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Re: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread

#299 Post by Paul Gordon » August 11th, 2019, 9:04 pm

Saw our first pink berry yesterday - Mourvedre leading the way as always. This is very close timing to last year.
Lots of chicks and hens out there. Never seen so many seedless Syrah grapes. All down to that May rain I suspect.
The Grenache shattered as we expected but left us with a good size crop that does not require a drop.

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Re: 2019 West Coast Weather Thread

#300 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 12th, 2019, 6:35 am

Thunder and lightning Friday night along with a tenth of an inch of rain. I was hunting all weekend. Nice to take my mind off of work. Hunting thread over on Asylum.

Pinot coloring up Fast. Sparkling folks are going to want samples soon I'm sure. Still holding to September 6 or so start date.
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