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Re: 2018 Vintage West Coast Weather Thread

#401 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 9th, 2018, 6:55 am

A very chilly 41 degrees this morning with no fog. Hope we're done by 11:00 so I can watch a little 49ers.
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#402 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 9th, 2018, 8:18 am

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#403 Post by Roy Piper » September 9th, 2018, 11:49 am

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95 degrees here yesterday and today. Sugars will quickly catch up to flavors.
Only 91F in Moulds area. Today and next 3 days look good for ripening but then we are back to the high-70s fora week. And we are only hot for 3-4 hours now. Plus, nights are the coolest I can remember at this stage in many years.

It is possible that we will have no heat spikes this year during ripening?
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#404 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 10th, 2018, 7:33 am

48 degrees at 6:30 this morning at my place. But there is no fog, and the forecast is for over 90. I think we will get some good hot hours today.
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#405 Post by Paul Gordon » September 10th, 2018, 8:38 am

Last week was a slightly warm one - temps generally in the low/mid 80s. That really helped get us fully through veraison.
A nice cool 10 days ahead - forecast to be highs in the upper 60s/low 70s.
Still tracking to a mid-October Syrah pick.
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#406 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 10th, 2018, 2:07 pm

Paul, does your Grenache come off after the Syrah?
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#407 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 10th, 2018, 5:33 pm

By noon today it was 88 degrees here at my place. By 1:30 and now at 5:30 it is 95 degrees. HOT.
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#408 Post by timmy roos » September 11th, 2018, 5:47 am

Got a call yesterday that 2 of our lots did not pass smoke taint test. Really don't know what to do. If this is true for us lake co will have more insult to this years injury
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#409 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 11th, 2018, 8:13 am

So sorry, Timmy. That's awful.
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#410 Post by Paul Gordon » September 11th, 2018, 9:03 am

Casey Hartlip wrote:
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Paul, does your Grenache come off after the Syrah?
Yes. 1 or 2 weeks later.
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#411 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 11th, 2018, 12:05 pm

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#412 Post by Jim Hartten » September 11th, 2018, 1:12 pm

Casey, great looking clusters!! [worship.gif] Keep it coming... [cheers.gif] [popcorn.gif]

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#413 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 11th, 2018, 4:42 pm

Jim Hartten wrote:
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Casey, great looking clusters!! [worship.gif] Keep it coming... [cheers.gif] [popcorn.gif]
Nice pick!
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#414 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 11th, 2018, 5:47 pm

Lots of sampling, lots of thinking. Will be halfway through our sparkling Chard tomorrow. Sparkling Pinot is done. History tells us that Pinot Gris or Gewurtz should be next. We have some Pinot Noir in the 19 to 22 range which is just fine. We might get a few days off and get some cover crop drilled in. We crossed 110 tons today.
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#415 Post by timmy roos » September 12th, 2018, 5:04 pm

It's a shit show with constellation here in lake count county. I don't know of anyone tgat has been able to send them fruit. Had conversations with mendo people that have received rejection letters as well
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#416 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 12th, 2018, 6:04 pm

timmy roos wrote:
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It's a shit show with constellation here in lake count county. I don't know of anyone tgat has been able to send them fruit. Had conversations with mendo people that have received rejection letters as well
This is gonna be a big f_cking deal in these parts. Constellation is cancelling contracts in inland Mendo claiming "smoke taint". In reality, it's fruit they really don't want and are trying to get out of contracts. I guess the Cab bubble has burst and they are in oversupply now. I've heard over 50 contracts in Mendo/Lake will be cancelled. Growers are doing are testing with ETS proving their fruit is safe and I think the lawyers are gonna have a feast.

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#417 Post by timmy roos » September 12th, 2018, 7:11 pm

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Are they the only ones rejecting fruit? We are working with 2 wineries as fruit is deemed acceptable.
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#418 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 13th, 2018, 7:12 am

timmy roos wrote:
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Casey
Are they the only ones rejecting fruit? We are working with 2 wineries as fruit is deemed acceptable.
I don't know right now.
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#419 Post by timmy roos » September 13th, 2018, 10:36 am

Im always interested to know what the talk is on your side of the hill
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#420 Post by N Weis » September 14th, 2018, 7:29 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 6:04 pm
timmy roos wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 5:04 pm
It's a shit show with constellation here in lake count county. I don't know of anyone tgat has been able to send them fruit. Had conversations with mendo people that have received rejection letters as well
This is gonna be a big f_cking deal in these parts. Constellation is cancelling contracts in inland Mendo claiming "smoke taint". In reality, it's fruit they really don't want and are trying to get out of contracts. I guess the Cab bubble has burst and they are in oversupply now. I've heard over 50 contracts in Mendo/Lake will be cancelled. Growers are doing are testing with ETS proving their fruit is safe and I think the lawyers are gonna have a feast.

130 tons in 450 to go!
I hate this. It happened a bit in Napa and Sonoma Counties last year after 10/9, and I thought it was just the sh!ts. While I understand it contractually and from a winery's POV, I don't think I ever could have done it to a grower. Work something else out. Seemed like kicking a woman or man when she/he's already down. The surprising part to me was how many growers went right back to the same customers again this year! If I were a grower, this is how I would have treated the contract:

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#421 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 15th, 2018, 12:41 pm

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#422 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm

Per ETS Labs, I have 24B and 3.4 ph. I have picked anywhere from August 22 to October 3. We are in there, somewhere.
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#423 Post by Stewart Johnson » September 15th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Picked pinot for sparkling last night. I delivered it to a winery that was bringing in Calistoga cab at the same time. Seemed a bit early for that, since most folks seem to be running on an "old normal" timetable this year. I think they have "old normal" or "neo-classical" (if you follow Gilman's usage) notions of ripeness and pick around 23.5B. That's often kind of a sweet spot for me with pinot too, but I wouldn't have expected cab to be so far out in front of pinot at this point.
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#424 Post by N Weis » September 15th, 2018, 5:28 pm

Stewart Johnson wrote:
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Picked pinot for sparkling last night. I delivered it to a winery that was bringing in Calistoga cab at the same time. Seemed a bit early for that, since most folks seem to be running on an "old normal" timetable this year. I think they have "old normal" or "neo-classical" (if you follow Gilman's usage) notions of ripeness and pick around 23.5B. That's often kind of a sweet spot for me with pinot too, but I wouldn't have expected cab to be so far out in front of pinot at this point.
Being someone who works with a lot of different regions and varieties, I see it every year. SB that is later than Cabernet, Merlot that is earlier than Pinot, and so on. Everything is just so darn site specific, it's very hard to generalize. Next week, we have Oregon Pinot, RRV SB, Alexander Valley Cabernet & Malbec, and Napa Valley Cabernet all being picked. And that's the norm, not a vagary of 2018. Just goes to show that region/site matters.
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#425 Post by Paul Gordon » September 16th, 2018, 9:18 am

It has been a cool week - the last 5 days have averaged just under 63F on the high side and an average low of 44F. The coming week is forecast to be a little warmer.
We did our first quick Syrah sample - 18.9b - but the seeds are tan and good color on the pulp.
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#426 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 17th, 2018, 4:45 am

After a rare Sunday off we're going to crank up the volume. Getting lots of calls and texts wanting me to schedule pick days. The next two weeks will define the season for us. Glad to see this weather holding steady.
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#427 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 17th, 2018, 8:38 am

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Monday must be Gewurtz day!
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#428 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 17th, 2018, 8:04 pm

Many of my 17 customers are starting to make thier needs known. I have a big 75 ton lot of sparkling Chard in the middle of it all. This is when sparkling wraps up and Pinot Gris and early Pinot Noir start to clash. This is when I make dreams come true and crush the souls of others. I'm happy that I have weeded out some of my more difficult customers the last 3-4 years, but it's still very hard to tell someone they can't have thier fruit on the day they wish. I don't sleep well this month and try not to have too many issues with my folks. Regardless it's hard and difficult. I'm SO lucky that my crew is not complicating things further.
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#429 Post by Karen Troisi » September 18th, 2018, 1:21 pm

We are picking our first cabernet sauvignon fruit on Monday (9/24) from Rutherford. We picked this same vineyard/block last year on 9/14.
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#430 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 18th, 2018, 2:00 pm

Josh Clark and crew due here at 6:30 a.m. Saturday to pick EMH. A week from then I will be at Fenway watching the Sox/Yankees finish the regular season up.
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#431 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 18th, 2018, 3:37 pm

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Nice tight looking load for our neighbors at Goldeneye. We picked for 3 different clients today. Too damn much running around and not enough tons for my taste, but it's what we do to keep people happy.
Tomorrow a 30+ ton day of sparkling Chard all in one field. It'll be the opposite of today sillyness. I need a nap.
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#432 Post by Roy Piper » September 18th, 2018, 5:57 pm

This heat coming the next week-10 days should do the trick for Moulds. So aiming for Sept 29 to Oct 2.

Acids are high but flavors starting to show. Seeds are greenish but I think thats par for the course this year.

Houyi is 4 weeks off if I can get it to hold that long.
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#433 Post by Roy Piper » September 18th, 2018, 6:21 pm

N Weis wrote:
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Being someone who works with a lot of different regions and varieties, I see it every year. SB that is later than Cabernet, Merlot that is earlier than Pinot, and so on. Everything is just so darn site specific, it's very hard to generalize. Next week, we have Oregon Pinot, RRV SB, Alexander Valley Cabernet & Malbec, and Napa Valley Cabernet all being picked. And that's the norm, not a vagary of 2018. Just goes to show that region/site matters.
Wandered into Silver Oak Alexander Valley tasting room last week, just for fun. Nice facility!
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#434 Post by N Weis » September 18th, 2018, 7:00 pm

Roy Piper wrote:
September 18th, 2018, 6:21 pm
N Weis wrote:
September 15th, 2018, 5:28 pm
Being someone who works with a lot of different regions and varieties, I see it every year. SB that is later than Cabernet, Merlot that is earlier than Pinot, and so on. Everything is just so darn site specific, it's very hard to generalize. Next week, we have Oregon Pinot, RRV SB, Alexander Valley Cabernet & Malbec, and Napa Valley Cabernet all being picked. And that's the norm, not a vagary of 2018. Just goes to show that region/site matters.
Wandered into Silver Oak Alexander Valley tasting room last week, just for fun. Nice facility!
Shoot, man. Let me know next time so I can show you around! Some cool stuff going on there.
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#435 Post by Roy Piper » September 18th, 2018, 7:22 pm

Yeah, I literally just drove by, skidded to a stop and went in at 3:45pm. Spur of the moment. Wanna see the Napa facility too! Have not been there since before the fire.
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#436 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 19th, 2018, 5:53 pm

First speed bump today. Wanted to pick 72 bins of sparkling Chard but only did 58. The crew wasn't real motivated but the crop was quite good. Now we won't finish sparkling tomorrow and that crowds fruit into another day. Sounds trivial but it just cranks up the pressure to fulfill deliveries when many of my customers are fighting for dates. Obviously someone's gonna be pissed when it conflicts with their world.
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