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The Wine Berserkers Special Wine Guests program continues with Thomas Duroux of Chateau Palmer, October 22-27, 2012
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#1 Post by Marc Frontario » October 25th, 2012, 8:23 am

Mssr. Duroux

I am a huge fan of '04 Bordeaux in general....what are some of your favorite less herald vintages in the last twenty years? Thank you

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#2 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 25th, 2012, 8:34 am

Marc Frontario wrote:Mssr. Duroux

I am a huge fan of '04 Bordeaux in general....what are some of your favorite less herald vintages in the last twenty years? Thank you
Good question! Time to find some unheralded 'bargain' vintages...
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#3 Post by thomas duroux » October 26th, 2012, 7:55 am

1971, 1979, 1991 , 1999 : those are for top Palmer and few people know....

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#4 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 26th, 2012, 8:00 am

thomas duroux wrote:1971, 1979, 1991 , 1999 : those are for top Palmer and few people know....
'71 is my birth year - perhaps I need to find a way to get some!

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#5 Post by scott c » October 26th, 2012, 11:00 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
thomas duroux wrote:1971, 1979, 1991 , 1999 : those are for top Palmer and few people know....
'71 is my birth year - perhaps I need to find a way to get some!

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And '79 is mine. I've been lucky to have acquired a few bottles, and have popped one or two already, and it is definitely a beautiful wine!
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#6 Post by Matt Latuchie » October 26th, 2012, 2:24 pm

'79 Palmer is magnificent.
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#7 Post by Craig G » October 26th, 2012, 8:12 pm

Is '79 an off vintage or perhaps the best vintage of the '70s, at least after 1970? I've heard it was variable but my own experience is very solid. Traditionally it was ranked after 75 and 78 as well but I'm not sure if it really turned out that way. There are a lot of other really good 79s including Pichon Lalande, Margaux, Gruaud Larose, Haut Brion.
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#8 Post by Jeremiah P » October 27th, 2012, 6:46 am

Matt Latuchie wrote:'79 Palmer is magnificent.
That it is! Historically I seem to enjoy the '78 a bit more, but the last time I had the '79 I was blown away, I have been trying to seek some out.
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#9 Post by Alex Rychlewski » October 29th, 2012, 12:42 am

On these forums, I am often a champion of non-classified Bordeaux (... "the other 95%") as well as the so-called off vintages.

I went to New York for a wine dinner and requested that the theme of the evening be "Off-Vintage Bordeaux".
Everyone brought a bottle. Mine was 99 Palmer. And it stole the show.

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#10 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 29th, 2012, 5:23 am

The great houses make great wine in nearly every vintage, so 'off' doesn't always apply
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