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#51 Post by Peter Petersen » March 13th, 2015, 6:05 pm

K&L have a bunch, yes, you can thank me in part since they were reluctant to restock. Will be picking up some 12 and 15 year olds soon.

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#52 Post by Craig G » March 18th, 2015, 7:53 pm

Has anyone had the 1992 Laballe that K&L has (or other Laballe)? I browse all their 92 stuff now and then as I have a daughter born that year, and this came up.
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#53 Post by P. Willenberg » March 19th, 2015, 6:59 am

I have not had it. but it does look like they have some nice choices for 92s at a similar price point including the ethereal Bruichladdich and a Fonseca. I highly recommend the laddie, it's such a pure expression.
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#54 Post by Craig G » October 20th, 2016, 10:03 pm

I went to a Tesseron tasting at a local shop tonight. They had the 90, 76, 53, 29 and two higher end ones, Tresor and Royal Blend. The 53 and particularly 29 are extraordinary. I can't rationalize the $600 for the 29 but if I were ever to spend that for a bottle of something that would probably be it.

The two higher end ones (selling for $1250 each) were very good but even the importer agreed they were not as good as the 53 and 29, just rarer.

There's an interesting style difference between the 53 and 29. 53 is bolder, more like people have described above. The 29 is lighter in body but has an amazingly complex bloom in the mouth.

I liked the 90 quite a bit and more than the 76 tonight. It's not as complex as the others but it has a nice freshness to its aromas and is very bold. I ended up with a bottle each of 90 and 53. At my rate of drinking such things that may be a lifetime supply.
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#55 Post by Michael Bowden » October 21st, 2016, 3:17 pm

Just bought a bottle of Louis XIII and Paradis.....unsure when they will be opened...but always good to have around the house just in case.
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#56 Post by Robert A » January 25th, 2017, 5:10 am

Bought a couple cases of wine from a west cliff drive estate....'74 Inglenook Cab '74 Beaulieu Beautour Cab and others Krug, kept thinking about the cork cap in a bottle that twisted off. So took a peak and quite a surprise. 1972 half bottle of Remy Napoléon Grand Champagne Cognac. The sweetest sound you ever heard was the psst sound of a sealed bottle of 45 year old Cognac being opened after 40 years since the last glass in 1972...4am and had to try it!!!! Fantastic!
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#57 Post by Steve Brickley » January 29th, 2017, 8:43 pm

Beautiful butterscotch and carmelized sugar flavors.
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#58 Post by Doug Hein » February 21st, 2017, 8:18 pm

What I try to keep on hand and highly recommended:

Chateau Montifaud XO
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Prunier XO

Right now I am having a Marthe Sepia 30 year old. Very nice at 44% ABV.

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#60 Post by Alan Rath » March 8th, 2017, 10:26 am

K&L has an 87 Armagnac I'm thinking of trying, anyone had it?
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#61 Post by P. Willenberg » March 8th, 2017, 3:56 pm

Alan Rath wrote:K&L has an 87 Armagnac I'm thinking of trying, anyone had it?
I see 4x 1987 Armagnac. got one in mind?
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#62 Post by Alan Rath » March 9th, 2017, 5:05 pm

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Alan Rath wrote:K&L has an 87 Armagnac I'm thinking of trying, anyone had it?
I see 4x 1987 Armagnac. got one in mind?
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#63 Post by Michae1 P0wers » March 10th, 2017, 10:17 am

Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).

I've not had the Cardinat. They also have an '87 Jean-Bon. Last year I bought the '96 and '99 Jean-Bon and much preferred the '99. The '96 tasted a bit tired, so that would make me worry about the '87, but that could be vintage or bottle variation as well. In any case, they're probably all quite nice, but I grabbed some '87 Baraillon and it took some self control not to buy several.

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#64 Post by Chris Freemott » May 21st, 2017, 11:06 am

Anyone try the Kirkland XO? Should I be ashamed to say I really like it. And it's a steal at $49.00

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#65 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » May 22nd, 2017, 9:06 am

You can get the tesseron 90 for $57...

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#66 Post by danupdike » May 25th, 2017, 12:51 pm

Just finished a bottle of Marie Duffeau Napoleon Armagnac; my go-to.
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#67 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » May 27th, 2017, 9:32 pm

I picked up some grangerie Armagnac, we'll see how it is.

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#69 Post by Randall McFarlane » June 22nd, 2017, 4:04 pm

On a recent trip to France, I paid up for a fancy tour of Otard, and ended up buying a bottle of their Baron Otard 1972 Cognac Petite Champagne. I shared a glass with a friend the other day--astoundingly good stuff.

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#70 Post by Craig G » June 23rd, 2017, 5:32 am

Does anyone know anything about Jean Cavé Armagnac? Good apes just offered a bunch of old ones.

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"Good apes" should be Grapes (Wine Co).
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#71 Post by C Chen » June 26th, 2017, 12:45 pm

Michae1 P0wers wrote:if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Awesome! Just purchased the 87 for a friend's 30th birthday. [cheers.gif]
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#72 Post by William Segui » June 26th, 2017, 8:48 pm

Chris Freemott wrote:Anyone try the Kirkland XO? Should I be ashamed to say I really like it. And it's a steal at $49.00
damnit, now I must buy one next time I'm at Costco.

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#73 Post by William Segui » July 5th, 2017, 11:53 am

William Segui wrote:
Chris Freemott wrote:Anyone try the Kirkland XO? Should I be ashamed to say I really like it. And it's a steal at $49.00
damnit, now I must buy one next time I'm at Costco.

It isn't life changing, but it is easy drinking and a tremendous value. These are perfect for scratching the casual cognac itch, I'm going to grab a few more.

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#74 Post by Bob Kot » June 18th, 2018, 5:14 am

The “Larressingle X.O. Armagnac Grande Reserve”. Extraordinary.

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#75 Post by Alan Rath » June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm

Michae1 P0wers wrote:Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
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#76 Post by DavidN » August 15th, 2018, 11:30 am

Advice for a beginner... I'm into all whiskeys, tequila, mezcal, and gin, but I've never really tried cognac.

Where do you recommend someone begins?
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#77 Post by Michael O'Brien » August 20th, 2018, 1:27 pm

I am a big fan of the Tesseron Lot 29. Unfortunately, the prices has continued to increase. When I first bought it cost was $215 per bottle. It is now up over $600 in my market.
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#78 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » August 20th, 2018, 7:15 pm

I think the Tesseron line is a good one to start with. 90 and 76 are well priced.

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#79 Post by Craig G » August 23rd, 2018, 9:47 pm

I bought a 1964 Leon Beyries “La Hauresse” Armagnac from K&L a few months ago (my wife’s birth year), and we opened it tonight. We like it a lot - very smooth with lots of creme brûlée, vanilla, chocolate, leather, and dried fruit, but our kids (19 and 25) gave mixed reviews:

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#80 Post by William Segui » September 7th, 2018, 12:51 pm

Michael O'Brien wrote:
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I am a big fan of the Tesseron Lot 29. Unfortunately, the prices has continued to increase. When I first bought it cost was $215 per bottle. It is now up over $600 in my market.
A handful of years ago, Tesseron was fairly priced. Not sure if it was the Parker scores or what, but prices have taken off -- which is a bummer as I really like the house.

Loaded up on a bunch L'Encantada Armagnacs awhile back, should last me a good while.

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#81 Post by William Segui » September 7th, 2018, 12:52 pm

Chris Freemott wrote:
May 21st, 2017, 11:06 am
Anyone try the Kirkland XO? Should I be ashamed to say I really like it. And it's a steal at $49.00
No shame here, I like it as well. I haven't picked one up in awhile, but ripped through a bottle or two awhile back. If these ever hit clearance/.97, I'll clear them out.

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#82 Post by Peter Petersen » September 8th, 2018, 1:42 pm

Alan Rath wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm
Michae1 P0wers wrote:Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
This being summer I store my brandies in my wine fridge. That helps.
Also I'd try Dartigalongue. They have several that are very good starting with the XO, are generally very traditional (rustic with effusive aromatics), and with ABV of 40%.
Briat is also very good.

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#83 Post by David Henry » September 9th, 2018, 6:23 am

Peter Petersen wrote:
September 8th, 2018, 1:42 pm
Alan Rath wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm
Michae1 P0wers wrote:Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
This being summer I store my brandies in my wine fridge. That helps.
Also I'd try Dartigalongue. They have several that are very good starting with the XO, are generally very traditional (rustic with effusive aromatics), and with ABV of 40%.
Briat is also very good.
+1 on the Dartigalongue, especially the 25 year old, which is a bargain at $120.00.

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#84 Post by Michae1 P0wers » September 21st, 2018, 7:35 am

Alan Rath wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm
Michae1 P0wers wrote:Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
Alan,

I just saw this (obviously rather old) post and was wondering how the rest of the bottle was faring? I sometimes find that spirits mellow and improve over the course of a few weeks of air. It is admittedly a very "in your face" kind of Armagnac. I also much prefer brandy as a winter drink, where that bracing character is what I'm looking for. Not sure I'd think of that particular bottle (or any armagnac) as a summer brandy. I'd go to Cognac for that, as many cognacs tend to have more flowers and fruit whereas I look to Armagnac for power, rusticity, toffee/butterscotch/wood flavors.

I never drink brandy with ice, though I drink less expensive cognac with Perrier a fair amount. I have wondered though if a few drops of still water in good Armagnac would open it up a bit like Scotch and maybe round it out a bit too. I may experiment with this when I start into brandies again this winter.

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#85 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 28th, 2018, 5:47 pm

Picked up the comandon XO and lustrac 25 lately.

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#86 Post by Alan Rath » September 29th, 2018, 11:16 am

Michae1 P0wers wrote:
September 21st, 2018, 7:35 am
Alan Rath wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm
Michae1 P0wers wrote:Alan, if you are going to buy an '87 you should really, really buy the Baraillon that they have. Vintage (1982) Domaine de Baraillon is the first serious brandy I ever tried back when a buddy of mine used to work at a wine bar. It is truly excellent stuff. I've had '82, '83, '84 and I believe '86, and each was excellent, but '87 is supposedly the best vintage of that run ('82 also strong I believe).
Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
Alan,

I just saw this (obviously rather old) post and was wondering how the rest of the bottle was faring? I sometimes find that spirits mellow and improve over the course of a few weeks of air. It is admittedly a very "in your face" kind of Armagnac. I also much prefer brandy as a winter drink, where that bracing character is what I'm looking for. Not sure I'd think of that particular bottle (or any armagnac) as a summer brandy. I'd go to Cognac for that, as many cognacs tend to have more flowers and fruit whereas I look to Armagnac for power, rusticity, toffee/butterscotch/wood flavors.

I never drink brandy with ice, though I drink less expensive cognac with Perrier a fair amount. I have wondered though if a few drops of still water in good Armagnac would open it up a bit like Scotch and maybe round it out a bit too. I may experiment with this when I start into brandies again this winter.
Michael,
It really didn't change after being open for a while. I've managed to go through 1/3 of the bottle, but have not enjoyed it the way I hoped. I bought a couple other bottles around that time, which I will probably offer on CC:

1986 L'Encantada "Domaine Le Frêche" Cask #44 Bas-Armagnac
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#87 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 18th, 2018, 6:39 am

Astor has the Navarre for $180 with free shipping today for anyone who was thinking about it.

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#88 Post by Peter Petersen » October 18th, 2018, 12:58 pm

David Henry wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 6:23 am
Peter Petersen wrote:
September 8th, 2018, 1:42 pm
Alan Rath wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 10:02 pm

Michael (if you see this), I did buy the 87, finally drinking it now. Honestly, it's a bit too strong for my tastes. Now I'm wondering if it's completely gauche to drop a bit of ice in for dilution. ABV says 43%, so not extremely high, but between the alc and a bit of rusticity, it's a tough drink.
This being summer I store my brandies in my wine fridge. That helps.
Also I'd try Dartigalongue. They have several that are very good starting with the XO, are generally very traditional (rustic with effusive aromatics), and with ABV of 40%.
Briat is also very good.
+1 on the Dartigalongue, especially the 25 year old, which is a bargain at $120.00.

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I've been drinking the 25 year old Dartigalongue last two weeks. Stunning drink.

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#89 Post by David Henry » November 3rd, 2018, 6:51 pm

Picked up the Jean Fillioux XO Grande Reserve Grande Champagne Cognac today. With an average age of 30 years, it is another very fine French brandy brought in by spirits importer Heavenly Spirits (as is the very fine 25 year old Dartigalongue Grande Eau de Vie Armagnac). An excellent value at $120/bottle, this won the Chairman's Trophy from the 2018 Ultimate Spirits Competition. It is interesting to compare the Fillioux and the Dartigalongue side-by-side. It really illustrates the differences between a fine Cognac and a fine Armagnac at the same price point and pedigree. For a tasting note, etc., see https://www.ultimate-beverage.com/ultim ... ne-Cognac/

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#90 Post by Alan Rath » November 3rd, 2018, 9:46 pm

The Fillioux sounds great, wish there was some available locally.
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#91 Post by Paul H Galli » November 9th, 2018, 9:30 am

Mark Henderson wrote:
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The Delamain 'Pale & Dry' XO Grande Champagne Cognac is far and away my favourite. It is not a big, powerful style, but has marvellous complexity and depth of flavour; really fine and elegant on the finish. I have never tried Hine but am eager to do so this year and may be able to pick up a bottle while travelling.
This has always been my standby.
It's feminine with evolving, complex flavors to the aftertaste.
I take as small a sip as possible to avoid the alcoholic bite.
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#92 Post by Rajesh P a r i k h » November 25th, 2018, 11:19 am

I've been buying at least one of every L'Encantada I can find. I live pretty close to Kentucky where even things like Henry McKenna 10 yr are becoming allocated and I think this is quickly becoming my bourbon alternative.

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#93 Post by David Henry » December 10th, 2018, 7:46 pm

Somewhat reluctantly, I recently picked up another bottle of the Delord Bas Armagnac 25 year old. I hesitated because the price has risen to $70.00/bottle (from around $50.00/bottle just a few years ago) as it keeps winning a lot of awards at international competitions. In addition, at times some bottlings of this brandy are a bit dark, brooding and overly oaky and masculine and, while fairly enjoyable, really haven't been in my wheelhouse (especially since I generally prefer brandies that are on the more elegant and feminine end of the spectrum). The most recent bottling, however, walks a fine line that is a little lighter and more elegant but exhibits the unique power and character that you can only find in an Armagnac. At this price point, the current bottling is worthy of the many international medals and accolades it has won and is an excellent value brandy.

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#94 Post by Vuk K » February 1st, 2019, 1:07 pm

Delord 25 here too. Love the stuff.
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#95 Post by Mark Golodetz » February 5th, 2019, 10:46 am

Frappin 1942 and 1943 bottled by Harvey’s. Both amazing; I have a slight preference for the 1943.

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#96 Post by Joshua Kates » February 5th, 2019, 1:29 pm

Picked up an '86 Laberdolive Bas-Armagnac when in NYC December. Not cheap, but the extreme age intersects with the extreme rusticity in a wonderful way.

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#97 Post by Jay Miller » February 8th, 2019, 12:29 pm

Joshua Kates wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 1:29 pm
Picked up an '86 Laberdolive Bas-Armagnac when in NYC December. Not cheap, but the extreme age intersects with the extreme rusticity in a wonderful way.
I love the vintage Laberdolives.
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#98 Post by Joshua Kates » February 8th, 2019, 1:59 pm

Jay Miller wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:29 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 1:29 pm
Picked up an '86 Laberdolive Bas-Armagnac when in NYC December. Not cheap, but the extreme age intersects with the extreme rusticity in a wonderful way.
I love the vintage Laberdolives.
Yes, Jay,

Truly special. Have you tried other vintages? '86 is the only one I've had and I am curious about how much difference the vintage at this late date may make.

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#99 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 9th, 2019, 5:42 am

How much did the laberdolives run? I’ve only had them btg in France.

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#100 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 9th, 2019, 11:19 am

Picked up some Briat 1996; I can get the 91 too but the 96 was higher proof, so we’ll see.

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