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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#51 Post by JulianD » March 28th, 2019, 4:07 pm

I can’t even find most of them in japan, let alone the US
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#52 Post by CraigE. » March 31st, 2019, 8:46 pm

Its unreal how the demand on Japanese whiskey seemed to explode overnight... Wish I had stocked up when it was available at most stores and every duty free shop!
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#53 Post by D Lewis » May 2nd, 2019, 8:47 pm

Im taking a short trip to Japan next month, is there any whiskey I could purchase at the local store that I should try? Nothing to bring back home, just to enjoy while I'm there. Im staying in Osaka and Japan. TIA.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#54 Post by Craig G » May 2nd, 2019, 8:59 pm

D Lewis wrote:
May 2nd, 2019, 8:47 pm
Im taking a short trip to Japan next month, is there any whiskey I could purchase at the local store that I should try? Nothing to bring back home, just to enjoy while I'm there. Im staying in Osaka and Japan. TIA.
I really like Suntory’s The Chita. You can get it in 100ml bottles in many convenience stores. You can also get the NAS Yamazaki and Hakushu in those bottles.

If you see a Bic Camera, check if they still have any 50ml bottles of Hibiki 17. I’m not sure if those are gone now.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#55 Post by D Lewis » May 2nd, 2019, 9:01 pm

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May 2nd, 2019, 8:59 pm
I really like Suntory’s The Chita. You can get it in 100ml bottles in many convenience stores. You can also get the NAS Yamazaki and Hakushu in those bottles.

If you see a Bic Camera, check if they still have any 50ml bottles of Hibiki 17. I’m not sure if those are gone now.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#56 Post by Jim Brennan » August 25th, 2019, 1:15 pm

Scott G r u n e r wrote:
March 27th, 2019, 5:36 pm
Was really impressed with Nikka Coffey Grain. If you see it, grab some.
Have to agree... A really nice pour!

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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#57 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 13th, 2019, 4:59 am

On my most recent Japan trip last month, we talked to many bartenders and restaurateurs about the craze for Japanese whisky, and some of the results of that craze, including lack of older stock. Also, huge increases in the amount of "Japanese" whisky that wasn't made in Japan. It's been know for years, but I didn't see any mention in this thread, so thought I'd throw in some information:

https://daily.sevenfifty.com/what-buyer ... se-whisky/

He makes the good point that, if the whisky tastes good, who cares if it comes from Japan? But that's in conflict with the nature of the hype.

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#58 Post by Michael S. Monie » October 13th, 2019, 6:35 am

It would seem that whisky labeled made in Japan should be approached with the same awareness as olive oil labeled made in Italy. Caveat Emptor.
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#59 Post by Scott G r u n e r » October 13th, 2019, 8:35 am

So what you are saying is that Ray Walker is now making Japanese Whisky?
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#60 Post by ERPark » October 13th, 2019, 9:26 am

Wrong. Rayko Walkeryoshi is now making Japanese whiskey......... hitsfan
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#61 Post by C Chen » October 31st, 2019, 6:01 pm

ERPark wrote:
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Wrong. Rayko Walkeryoshi is now making Japanese whiskey......... hitsfan
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#62 Post by YLee » November 3rd, 2019, 4:49 pm

ERPark wrote:
October 13th, 2019, 9:26 am
Wrong. Rayko Walkeryoshi is now making Japanese whiskey......... hitsfan
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#63 Post by ERPark » November 3rd, 2019, 7:58 pm

YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 4:49 pm
ERPark wrote:
October 13th, 2019, 9:26 am
Wrong. Rayko Walkeryoshi is now making Japanese whiskey......... hitsfan
That's Rayko Walkeryoshi San to you
Why would you make that assumption?
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#64 Post by YLee » November 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm

ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 7:58 pm
YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 4:49 pm
ERPark wrote:
October 13th, 2019, 9:26 am
Wrong. Rayko Walkeryoshi is now making Japanese whiskey......... hitsfan
That's Rayko Walkeryoshi San to you
Why would you make that assumption?
It's a joke [whistle.gif]
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#65 Post by ERPark » November 3rd, 2019, 8:24 pm

YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm
ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 7:58 pm
YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 4:49 pm


That's Rayko Walkeryoshi San to you
Why would you make that assumption?
It's a joke [whistle.gif]
Nah son, that don’t play here.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#66 Post by YLee » November 3rd, 2019, 8:27 pm

ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:24 pm
YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm
ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 7:58 pm

Why would you make that assumption?
It's a joke [whistle.gif]
Nah son, that don’t play here.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#67 Post by ERPark » November 3rd, 2019, 8:30 pm

YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:27 pm
ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:24 pm
YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm


It's a joke [whistle.gif]
Nah son, that don’t play here.
What??!!? Lol. Funny boy
Precisely! It’s a joke [whistle.gif]
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

#68 Post by YLee » November 3rd, 2019, 8:30 pm

ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:30 pm
YLee wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:27 pm
ERPark wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 8:24 pm

Nah son, that don’t play here.
What??!!? Lol. Funny boy
Precisely! It’s a joke [whistle.gif]
I got it already.
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#69 Post by Eric Ifune » November 17th, 2019, 4:54 pm

Anyone know about the Suntory Royal Special Reserve? I opened a bottle from about the early 1970's yesterday. Very nice, aromatic, and elegant whiskey. Very long and persistent.

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#70 Post by ERPark » November 26th, 2019, 10:03 am

Had some Nikka 12 year yesterday. Been awhile since I had it, and forgotten how much peaty smoke was the primary characteristic.
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#71 Post by M i k e T. » December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am

Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
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#72 Post by Milton Hudson » December 17th, 2019, 7:20 pm

M i k e T. wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
Really like the Nikka Coffee Grain. Kind of got me kick started on the Whiskey search. Distilled spirits are still under state control here, which actually works to some advantage as many allocated whiskey's end up available at regular markups.

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#73 Post by C Chen » December 22nd, 2019, 3:46 pm

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Opted for some heavy pours at the Yamazaki Distillery in Osaka. Hakashu 25 ended up being my favorite of the bunch (surprised me). Loved the place and would recommend a visit.
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#74 Post by Anton D » December 22nd, 2019, 5:55 pm

I thought I'd go buy a bottle of Hakushu and see for myself.

Oops.

That's a great pic!
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#75 Post by Anton D » December 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm

M i k e T. wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
I recently discovered that and liked it! (Great value, in my opinion.)

I like their gin, as well!
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#76 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » December 25th, 2019, 5:31 pm

Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm
M i k e T. wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
I recently discovered that and liked it! (Great value, in my opinion.)

I like their gin, as well!
Bet you didn’t have to fly to London to taste the gin.

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#77 Post by NickRut » December 25th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm
M i k e T. wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
I recently discovered that and liked it! (Great value, in my opinion.)

I like their gin, as well!


Does it drink closer to a bourbon or a scotch?
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#78 Post by Craig G » December 25th, 2019, 9:50 pm

NickRut wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 7:34 pm
Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm
M i k e T. wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Same. I had NIkka Coffey Grain also really good.
I recently discovered that and liked it! (Great value, in my opinion.)

I like their gin, as well!


Does it drink closer to a bourbon or a scotch?
More like a gin, I expect :-)

Coffey Grain is more like American Whisky than Scotch.
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#79 Post by Craig G » December 25th, 2019, 9:57 pm

Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:55 pm
I thought I'd go buy a bottle of Hakushu and see for myself.

Oops.

That's a great pic!
Hakushu of any kind has become hard to buy in the US. The 12 and 18 used to be relatively easy to find. If you watch the K&L feed you may see the 12 show up there. I can’t say if it’s worth $100 but it is good. It’s peaty but not smoky, more in a grassy and herbal way. It has something in common with Scotch but I don’t know of any Scotch like it.
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#80 Post by Jim Brennan » January 2nd, 2020, 5:06 pm

Craig G wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 9:50 pm
NickRut wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 7:34 pm
Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm


I recently discovered that and liked it! (Great value, in my opinion.)

I like their gin, as well!


Does it drink closer to a bourbon or a scotch?
More like a gin, I expect :-)

Coffey Grain is more like American Whisky than Scotch.
Actually I think it's more like Irish Whiskey, but a bit sweeter on the finish.

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#81 Post by Brandon R » January 3rd, 2020, 8:19 am

Jim Brennan wrote:
January 2nd, 2020, 5:06 pm
Craig G wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 9:50 pm
NickRut wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 7:34 pm




Does it drink closer to a bourbon or a scotch?
More like a gin, I expect :-)

Coffey Grain is more like American Whisky than Scotch.
Actually I think it's more like Irish Whiskey, but a bit sweeter on the finish.
I recently acquired a Nikka Coffee Grain and had a nip a few days back. I was very happy with it and you all nailed it: blind, I would've said a very good Bourbon. Tasty stuff.
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#82 Post by Andrew Coll » January 5th, 2020, 11:16 am

Craig G wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 9:57 pm
Anton D wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 5:55 pm
I thought I'd go buy a bottle of Hakushu and see for myself.

Oops.

That's a great pic!
Hakushu of any kind has become hard to buy in the US. The 12 and 18 used to be relatively easy to find. If you watch the K&L feed you may see the 12 show up there. I can’t say if it’s worth $100 but it is good. It’s peaty but not smoky, more in a grassy and herbal way. It has something in common with Scotch but I don’t know of any Scotch like it.
Once upon a time Hakusha 12 was my favorite Costco grab for around $55-60. It's a great whiskey but personally there are other bottles I would buy (especially at K&L) before spending $100 on it.
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#83 Post by Andrew Coll » January 5th, 2020, 11:28 am

On a recent trip to Singapore I was lucky enough to try Nikka 17 Taketsuru at the ExciseMan Whisky Bar. The bar has a tremendous selection of Japanese whiskeys and is worth a visit if you find yourself there.
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#84 Post by Joshua Kates » January 6th, 2020, 12:37 pm

C Chen wrote:
December 22nd, 2019, 3:46 pm
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Opted for some heavy pours at the Yamazaki Distillery in Osaka. Hakashu 25 ended up being my favorite of the bunch (surprised me). Loved the place and would recommend a visit.
Interesting; I own the Hakashu 12, Yamazaki 17, and the Hibiki 17. My preference runs the reverse order from the Hibike down to the Hakashu. Maybe it takes on more subtlety with more age?
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#85 Post by LMD Ermitaño » February 4th, 2020, 1:21 am

I stopped buying age statement Japanese whiskies around 4 years ago since they got scarce here in Metro Manila. The ones one could find available once in a while have been at least triple the price I used to buy them - not really prohibitive; but I just felt peeved at having to pay multiples of before. Some months ago, three of us killed a bottle of Yamazaki 12 during a birthday lunch at the firm; and, though a relatively modest whisky, I realised I missed it.

The other night, discussing the past rise of prices of Japanese age statement whiskies, my eldest son (the only one of my sons into whisky) mentioned he had never tried it; so, I bought him one. It was on sale; but still around a little less than quadruple what I used to get it for. I figured that’s what fathers are for, right?
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#86 Post by Craig G » February 4th, 2020, 6:52 am

If you watch the K&L new product feed like a hawk, you may be able to get Yamazaki 12 for around $100 (maybe a bit more now). It used to come up fairly regularly but recently not so often. It will sell out very quickly. Hakushu 12 and 18 also show up occasionally.
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#87 Post by LMD Ermitaño » February 4th, 2020, 7:25 am

Craig G wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 6:52 am
If you watch the K&L new product feed like a hawk, you may be able to get Yamazaki 12 for around $100 (maybe a bit more now). It used to come up fairly regularly but recently not so often. It will sell out very quickly. Hakushu 12 and 18 also show up occasionally.
Thanks, Craig! Will keep an eye out as best I can. Price is about triple here in Manila, believe it or not.
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#88 Post by LMD Ermitaño » February 6th, 2020, 5:44 am

When my eldest got home from work that night*(Tuesday), I told him I had gotten him a bottle of the Yamazaki 12. After dinner, I asked him if was going to try it out; and he replied he’d try it on Friday night as it was a weeknight. I told him one shot wouldn’t hurt; so we both had a bit.

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As I remember it: creamy mouthfeel, viscous, honeyed, peach, super-ripe apricot, vanilla/custard, underlying liquorice candy. Some dried/candied fruits (like in fruitcake) emerge towards the back. Certainly something good with which a relative beginner to Japanese whisky such as he can cut his teeth. He was happy with it; so I was happy.

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#89 Post by Mike Maguire » February 6th, 2020, 5:41 pm

I was curious about the Nikka Coffee grain , a friend was kind enough to let me try some.My conclusion was mixed, I thought it was a very pleasant drink, it did not remind me of Bourbon other than the sweet finish, blind I would have guessed B&B.
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#90 Post by Jesse Koehn » March 14th, 2020, 4:48 pm

Got me some Nikka from the barrel

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