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#1 Post by John Liotta » September 23rd, 2010, 2:52 pm

What are peoples' general opinion of Rye?
I like it a lot.

Some of my current favs are:

Hirsch 20 year
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#2 Post by Scott Butler » September 23rd, 2010, 4:47 pm

Rye needs to be my next area of focus. I love whisky and bourbon, but don't know Rye very well.
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#3 Post by Joe Hauck » September 23rd, 2010, 5:11 pm

All I know about Rye is the Don McLean song. neener
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#4 Post by Brett Johnson » September 23rd, 2010, 5:18 pm

I drink a lot more bourbon than rye, but I do really like the Rittenhouse I bought a while back. It's definitely spicier and has more abv than my house bourbon (Elmer T Lee). If I had to choose, I think the Rittenhouse tastes better as the star of a cocktail than on its own, but I'd like to branch out and try some more rye.

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#5 Post by Frank Deis » September 23rd, 2010, 6:29 pm

Some prior discussion. I like watching the background minutiae of Mad Men, and I noticed that Don Draper is a big fan of Rye. Often Overholt or something similar, on the rocks in a tumbler.

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#6 Post by John Liotta » October 2nd, 2010, 12:19 pm

Has anyone tried (or even seen) Pappy's Rye?
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#7 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » October 2nd, 2010, 12:55 pm

Black Maple Hill 23yr old is the best I have had, and I've tried the Pappy. Peter has a good price on it and they list an 18yr old Rye as well which I have not seen in NY.

http://www.martysfinewine.com/236886?id=DshIwVQy

They were near the top of the Google search.

I haven't seen any Black Maple Hill or Pappy available from the NY wholesalers in a while.

One thing to mention, though, is that I like the sharper taste of Rye more for mixed drinks than sipping, so I am pretty happy with Jim Beam Rye, Old Overholt, or the entry level Sazerac for Manhattans and other drinks. They are all reasonably priced and readily available.
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#8 Post by John Liotta » October 3rd, 2010, 7:14 pm

Rye seems to be unpopular (or perhaps unsellable) down here. Most places have the basic stuff but nothing higher end.
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#9 Post by John Liotta » October 11th, 2010, 5:49 pm

Had Old Overholt on Saturday night. It was fine but nothing exciting.
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#10 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » October 11th, 2010, 6:21 pm

John,

Straight or on the rocks, I wouldn't expect it to impress. But it does the job in a Manhattan.

If you want something else singular look for Thomas Handy Rye, also by Sazerac.
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#11 Post by Peter Tryba » October 11th, 2010, 7:52 pm

Brent Clayton wrote:Black Maple Hill 23yr old is the best I have had, and I've tried the Pappy. Peter has a good price on it and they list an 18yr old Rye as well which I have not seen in NY.

http://www.martysfinewine.com/236886?id=DshIwVQy

They were near the top of the Google search.

I haven't seen any Black Maple Hill or Pappy available from the NY wholesalers in a while.

One thing to mention, though, is that I like the sharper taste of Rye more for mixed drinks than sipping, so I am pretty happy with Jim Beam Rye, Old Overholt, or the entry level Sazerac for Manhattans and other drinks. They are all reasonably priced and readily available.
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We have a focus on Rye this month, so people are jumping on Black Maple Hill 18 year and 23 year. I have tasted the Pappy and Black Maple Hill side by side and enjoyed both equally. The ringer was the Hirsch Canadian Rye 20 year aged. YUM!
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#12 Post by John Liotta » October 11th, 2010, 8:07 pm

I like that Hirsch 20.

The OO was with one cube, but I also tasted it straight.
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#13 Post by Mel Hill » October 11th, 2010, 8:15 pm

had the R rye at my reunion over the weekend, nice stuff
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#14 Post by John Liotta » April 11th, 2011, 12:20 pm

Found Black Maple Hill Rye (18 Year). Anyone had this?
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#15 Post by Andrew Hall » April 11th, 2011, 12:43 pm

I can't say anything bad about the Black Maple Hill 18, but it didn't ring my bell either.

I have some Abraham Bowman on its way to me and my buddy who is super-hard-core in spirits says it is the bomb.
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#16 Post by Peter Tryba » April 11th, 2011, 5:11 pm

The black maple 18 is fantastic stuff. You won't be sad with a bottle in your possession.
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#17 Post by Henry Kahn » April 23rd, 2011, 6:51 am

i like black maple and rip van winkle. tuthiltown manhattan rye makes a killer manhanttan... whistle pig is very good for sipping... i find RI a disappointment

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#18 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » April 23rd, 2011, 9:31 am

I tasted the Bulleit Rye 95pf last week. Very nice but I prefer Rittenhouse 100pf for less money.
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#19 Post by John Liotta » April 28th, 2011, 6:29 pm

Finally tried the Redemption High-Rye. I know it is not that well-thought of compared to some of the others mentioned in this thread but I thought it was pretty tasty actually.
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#20 Post by John Liotta » May 16th, 2011, 4:40 pm

Any thoughts on Templeton?
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#21 Post by Paul Miller » May 16th, 2011, 4:51 pm

John Liotta wrote:Any thoughts on Templeton?
Was about to ask how Rittenhouse compares to Templeton. Templeton right now is my go-to "whiskey" of the moment. Not as smooth and round as bourbon, but I like the spice note it impairs. Also is a better mixer than bourbon for flavoring, yet stands well on its on.

Another good rye is from Koval Distillery. They are local here in Chicago. Their Lion's Pride line is very good from top to bottom. They like to use less familiar grains to make whiskey. I REALLY like their regular oat.

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#22 Post by GregUrsino » May 18th, 2011, 7:48 am

I don't drink a lot of whisky but I like rye. One I like is Ri made by Jim Beam. Don't know if that is the same as Rl others did not like above, but I like it. Around $40.

I remember when I was a kid my uncle had a bar and we would go to help clean on Sundays. I was fascinated by this bottle of rye, it was called rocks and rye. It was rye whisky with really what looked likes rocks or rock salt in the bottom of the bottle. I wonder if they still make that?

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#23 Post by Ron Kramer » May 18th, 2011, 7:55 am

I think it was rock sugar

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#24 Post by Frank Deis » May 18th, 2011, 6:03 pm

My B.I.L. bought me a bottle of [rI]1 -- it is taking a while to get here.

And on KY Derby day, I was at a house where there was a bottle of Black Maple Hill Bourbon.

That was good enough that I know I have to try the rye some day!
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#25 Post by Andrew Hall » May 19th, 2011, 6:43 am

Paul Miller wrote:
John Liotta wrote:Any thoughts on Templeton?
Was about to ask how Rittenhouse compares to Templeton. Templeton right now is my go-to "whiskey" of the moment. Not as smooth and round as bourbon, but I like the spice note it impairs. Also is a better mixer than bourbon for flavoring, yet stands well on its on.
I like Templeton Rye a lot. The only issue is that it is 80 proof vs the Rittenhouse 100. When mixing, the end result can be just too diluted especially if the ice isn't right. I liked Manhattans made with TR, but in side-by-side they clearly did not show as well as the Rittenhouse.

Could I tinker w/ the recipe and make it right? Probably. Templeton is just too scarce for me to do so though.


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#26 Post by Frank Deis » May 23rd, 2011, 5:53 am

Mel Hill wrote:had the R rye at my reunion over the weekend, nice stuff
Though it did not take the 30 years off the highschool hotties like I had hoped


My bottle of (rI)1 arrived yesterday and I tried a bit with an ice cube. The best rye I have tasted but I realized that's a little like saying it's the best graham cracker I have tasted, it's not something I am going to rush out and buy a case of. What impressed me more was when I made myself an Old Fashioned. Dangerously delicious...
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#27 Post by Andrew Hall » May 29th, 2011, 6:56 pm

Had Black Maple 23 this weekend. Wonderful stuff, but to my mind the rye spice has faded behind the barrel.

Also had Pikesville Supreme which is a Maryland style rye in a Manhattan. On the playing field with its price peers like Overholt, it runs rings around them.

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#28 Post by Joe G a l e w s k i » May 29th, 2011, 7:12 pm

I went to a tasting a couple years ago, and tried several pricey and old ryes. I didn't think any of them were that good for sipping. I think rye is best for making cocktails. Towards that end, I haven't found a compelling reason to use anything except Rittenhouse 100. Lots of different bitters and herbal liquers keeps it interesting.

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#29 Post by Henry Kahn » May 30th, 2011, 6:19 am

I tried the Bulleit 95 the other day in a Sazerac... it worked great and I think is a really good addition to the Rye scene. I haven't seen it on the shelves yet, so not sure where the pricing falls

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#30 Post by bradkaplan » June 7th, 2011, 6:35 pm

Not sure if this should go here or under cocktails... but just tried the High West "36th Vote" Barreled Manhattan. Interesting stuff for sure, good quality, and glad I was able to try it to see what a few months of mellowing in the barrel (2yo rye barrels) does to a Manhattan, but not likely to replace the joy of making my own Manhattan's at home and being able to play with different ryes/bourbons/vermouths...
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#31 Post by Andrew Hall » June 7th, 2011, 7:01 pm

bradkaplan wrote:Not sure if this should go here or under cocktails... but just tried the High West "36th Vote" Barreled Manhattan. Interesting stuff for sure, good quality, and glad I was able to try it to see what a few months of mellowing in the barrel (2yo rye barrels) does to a Manhattan, but not likely to replace the joy of making my own Manhattan's at home and being able to play with different ryes/bourbons/vermouths...
Cool. Didn't know HW was doing a real throwback and bottling aged cocktails.

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#32 Post by William Segui » June 19th, 2011, 7:10 pm

Grabbed a bottle of Willett's 3-year Single Barrel Rye for $33 on a flyer. Anyone tried it?

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#33 Post by Roberto Rogness » June 19th, 2011, 7:35 pm

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#34 Post by John Liotta » November 25th, 2011, 9:57 am

Anyone had Whistle Pig? I picked up a few bottles but they haven't arrived yet.
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#35 Post by William Segui » November 25th, 2011, 3:40 pm

I like WhistlePig, but it seems pricy for what you get. Better than Templeton, IMHO, but not 2x's. If I could find it, for the price, I'd get the Sazerac 18. That is head & shoulders the best rye I've had all year.

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#36 Post by Richard Leland » November 28th, 2011, 1:12 pm

John Liotta wrote:Anyone had Whistle Pig? I picked up a few bottles but they haven't arrived yet.
It's pretty good whiskey but too expensive and a bit misleading. The word "Vermont" appears three times on the front label, but this is actually Canadian whiskey they purchased, imported and bottled in Vermont.
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#37 Post by Diane Elam » November 28th, 2011, 2:11 pm

standing up for the pig -- where ever it's really from. i like it a lot. different from rittenhouse 100, for which there probably is a case to be made that it's a smoother sipping whisky, although much sweeter than whistle pig in my estimation.

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#38 Post by Z. Hu » November 29th, 2011, 2:11 pm

How's the Handy Rye? I saw a couple at the liquor store this weekend. The proof seems super high
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#39 Post by William Segui » November 29th, 2011, 6:06 pm

Z. Hu wrote:How's the Handy Rye? I saw a couple at the liquor store this weekend. The proof seems super high
I really like it - spicy, cinnamon (not as good at these notes). I threw a cube in mine, as the proof is a bit daunting. Made a killer Manhattan. I'm a buyer at $70.

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#40 Post by Hunter Fuzzell » November 30th, 2011, 12:24 pm

The Sazerac 18yr is the best rye I've tasted. Super stuff.

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#41 Post by Steve Saxon » November 30th, 2011, 12:27 pm

I got to try some High West 21 year old Rye yesterday and it was great. Looking today to buy a bottle.
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#42 Post by ekovitch » November 30th, 2011, 12:32 pm

Being Canadian I grew up on it. Canadian Club, Crown Royal (when I could afford it). The classic drink is the Rye and Ginger (ale).
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#43 Post by Chuck Miller » November 30th, 2011, 1:14 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:I got to try some High West 21 year old Rye yesterday and it was great. Looking today to buy a bottle.
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#44 Post by timmy roos » December 5th, 2011, 1:02 pm

bradkaplan wrote:Not sure if this should go here or under cocktails... but just tried the High West "36th Vote" Barreled Manhattan. Interesting stuff for sure, good quality, and glad I was able to try it to see what a few months of mellowing in the barrel (2yo rye barrels) does to a Manhattan, but not likely to replace the joy of making my own Manhattan's at home and being able to play with different ryes/bourbons/vermouths...
I am not a big fan of rye on the rocks, but put it in a manhattan. THat saying Ri is my only experience with higher end ryes
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#45 Post by Nolan E » December 12th, 2011, 10:26 pm

John Liotta wrote:Has anyone tried (or even seen) Pappy's Rye?
Got a bottle this year. Absolutely fantastic stuff, prefer it to the 12 or 15 year Bourbons, but they're obviously completely different. I've had it before at a bar but this was my first opportunity to buy a bottle.

We got close to 100 bottles each of the 20, 15 and 12, but only got 12 of the Rye. Likely their smallest production, but I haven't seen numbers.
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#46 Post by David Walker » December 17th, 2011, 6:36 am

I just tried the High West Double last night and thought it was great. Went out and picked up a bottle this morning!

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#47 Post by Chris Presutti » December 17th, 2011, 6:47 am

I'm fast becoming a big fan of rye as I'm just finishing up a bottle of Russell's Reserve Rye Small Batch Six Year Old. Not a bad introduction to the style for about $30. Might go with a bottle of their Ten Year Old next.

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#48 Post by Kenny H » December 17th, 2011, 9:34 am

John Liotta wrote:Any thoughts on Templeton?
Been a go to for years. Although since I'm from there, might be a little bias. On rare occasion I was able to source the bootleg version back in college. It's buttery smooth stuff.

They also harvested a plot of their very own rye in Templeton last year. Not sure how long it will be to get that in bottle, it's several years turnover.
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#49 Post by Michae1 P0wers » December 18th, 2011, 4:56 pm

Anyone had the Rittenhouse 25? Available locally for $100. Seems a pretty decent price for a 25 year old whiskey.

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#50 Post by Travis Fantz » December 20th, 2011, 3:28 pm

The 25 is a steal at $100, it goes for over $200 here. I just picked up the regular one for $20.95, limited to one per customer.
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