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Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 1st, 2019, 2:10 pm
by NickRut
Alan Eden wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 1:44 pm
NickRut wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 1:21 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
May 31st, 2019, 8:31 pm
Funny enough my local store had some goodies for me tonight, picked up a 18 GTS, 4R 130th LESB and the Old Fitz 13 year BiB

Cant wait for the 13 Fitz

Wow strong showing. What’d they charge for the old fitz?
$150
Not bad at all. I passed on a bottle for $199 today. I hate the upcharge on some of these bottles.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 1st, 2019, 3:56 pm
by james l moleberg
Alan Eden wrote:
May 31st, 2019, 8:31 pm
Funny enough my local store had some goodies for me tonight, picked up a 18 GTS, 4R 130th LESB and the Old Fitz 13 year BiB

Cant wait for the 13 Fitz
very nice, was a big fan of this year's GTS, and the 130th is my favorite LESiB since the 2013

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 8:27 am
by Brandon R
Just had my first fingers of Booker's Kathleen's Batch last night. Definitely needed some water or ice because WOOO-WHEEE that was a burner! Great flavor, though.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 11:11 am
by ERPark
Had a few snorts of Old Fitzgerald 11 year BiB. No regrets about ordering them.......

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 3:34 am
by Dan Kimmelman
Was in a little shop in Manhattan last night and they had Weller 12 for $250, 4R 130th for $500, 4R Elliot's for $400...

...and Parker's Heritage Wheated (8th ed iirc) for $130, which I would've snagged except how would I have gotten it home to socal today?

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 11:43 am
by Edward H. Earles
Another Bourbon rickhouse collapsed about midnight last night. The O.Z. Tyler Distillery in Owensboro, Ky., appears to have lost about 4500 barrels; I don't know if they attempt to salvage any in such a situation. Fortunately no people were hurt or killed.

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Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 1:42 pm
by Alan Rath
Holy crap. Is land so expensive around there they they have to resort to a "structure" like this?

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 2:02 pm
by Edward H. Earles
I don't think the issue is land. Margins on Bourbon production used to be quite a bit lower than they are now. And building codes in decades past were pretty slack, compared to what they are now...so the structural supports in those rickhouses are all wooden (mostly oak), with no steel reinforcement. Since a barrel of Bourbon weighs about 520 pounds, if 4500 barrels fell, they represent 2,344,500 pounds of load, which seems a lot even for stout oak beams.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 7:39 pm
by Alan Eden
Dan Kimmelman wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 3:34 am
Was in a little shop in Manhattan last night and they had Weller 12 for $250, 4R 130th for $500, 4R Elliot's for $400...

...and Parker's Heritage Wheated (8th ed iirc) for $130, which I would've snagged except how would I have gotten it home to socal today?
those weller and 4R prices are way out of whack, i bought same for $35 and $199 last week

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 7:40 pm
by Alan Eden
Alan Rath wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 1:42 pm
Holy crap. Is land so expensive around there they they have to resort to a "structure" like this?
Scary, where are the floors !!

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 18th, 2019, 4:30 am
by Edward H. Earles
Alan Eden wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 7:40 pm
Alan Rath wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 1:42 pm
Holy crap. Is land so expensive around there they they have to resort to a "structure" like this?
Scary, where are the floors !!
They are splinters amidst the fallen barrels.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 28th, 2019, 5:03 pm
by Andrew Kotowski
Adam Noble wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 4:34 pm
I saw the pot still for I think $80 post tax, and the Willet Rye small batch for around $100 also post tax. I didn't buy either one.
Total Wine in Bellevue has the 750 at $59.99 ($69), the 1.75 at $96.99 ($122.47) and the willett family estate Rye...

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 29th, 2019, 5:42 pm
by JulianD
Alan Eden wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 7:39 pm
Dan Kimmelman wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 3:34 am
Was in a little shop in Manhattan last night and they had Weller 12 for $250, 4R 130th for $500, 4R Elliot's for $400...

...and Parker's Heritage Wheated (8th ed iirc) for $130, which I would've snagged except how would I have gotten it home to socal today?
those weller and 4R prices are way out of whack, i bought same for $35 and $199 last week
Must be nice, I’ve never even seen them on shelves

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: June 29th, 2019, 11:03 pm
by Alan Eden
JulianD wrote:
June 29th, 2019, 5:42 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 7:39 pm
Dan Kimmelman wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 3:34 am
Was in a little shop in Manhattan last night and they had Weller 12 for $250, 4R 130th for $500, 4R Elliot's for $400...

...and Parker's Heritage Wheated (8th ed iirc) for $130, which I would've snagged except how would I have gotten it home to socal today?
those weller and 4R prices are way out of whack, i bought same for $35 and $199 last week
Must be nice, I’ve never even seen them on shelves
Neither have I, only way i get them is via a ten year relationship at same store buying regularly.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 2:21 am
by Edward H. Earles
Major fire at Jim Beam bourbon warehouse in Woodford County

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Barre ... 56632.html

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 7:42 am
by Bill Buitenhuys
Edward H. Earles wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 2:21 am
Major fire at Jim Beam bourbon warehouse in Woodford County

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Barre ... 56632.html
I hope Mila Kunis is safe

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 9:32 am
by Edward H. Earles
45,000 barrels up in smoke...

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 4:24 pm
by Edward H. Earles
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This is turning into an environmental disaster. The non-muddy liquid you see in this photo of the Kentucky River is cask-strength Bourbon, mixed with some water from the fire department, and charcoal. Millions of fish will die, and the tens of thousands of people whose water supply is drawn from the river downstream will experience....well, who-knows-what....

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(photo: Seattle Times)

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 8:20 am
by JulianD
Distillery will have to pay for cleanup/environmental costs, right?

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 12:27 pm
by Edward H. Earles
I imagine so. By the way, Jim Beam announced that those 45,000 barrels amounted to only 1% of their Bourbon inventory!!

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 11:30 pm
by Alan Eden
So they have 600 million bottles in inventory, the homeless of America will always have something to drink !!!

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 6th, 2019, 5:08 pm
by Kris Patten
Alan Eden wrote:
July 5th, 2019, 11:30 pm
So they have 600 million bottles in inventory, the homeless of America will always have something to drink !!!
Think your number is a bit light.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 7th, 2019, 2:44 pm
by Chuck Miller
It’s amazing how much bourbon prices can vary state to state, I assume mostly due to liquor taxes. In WA state we have some of the highest liquor taxes around. As an example, Basil Hayden can retail in Wa for well over $50. Costco sells it for about $44. I’m on a driving trip across the N. states, and bought a bottle for $54 in Missoula, Mt. A few days later, I bought a bottle in Brandon SD that was on the shelf at $27 plus tax, so just over $30 all in. Here in MN at my hometown liquor store, I think it’s around $30 on the shelf, so last year when I was here, I had them order 24 btls for me. They happily did so and gave me a case discount, PLUS a free bottle for every dozen btls of bourbon you buy, and I paid all in $26 inc. taxes and happily drove them home in my car. Saved well over $400 compared to Costco. I’m here again and plan to do it all over again.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 8th, 2019, 9:21 pm
by Kris Patten
Chuck Miller wrote:
July 7th, 2019, 2:44 pm
It’s amazing how much bourbon prices can vary state to state, I assume mostly due to liquor taxes. In WA state we have some of the highest liquor taxes around. As an example, Basil Hayden can retail in Wa for well over $50. Costco sells it for about $44. I’m on a driving trip across the N. states, and bought a bottle for $54 in Missoula, Mt. A few days later, I bought a bottle in Brandon SD that was on the shelf at $27 plus tax, so just over $30 all in. Here in MN at my hometown liquor store, I think it’s around $30 on the shelf, so last year when I was here, I had them order 24 btls for me. They happily did so and gave me a case discount, PLUS a free bottle for every dozen btls of bourbon you buy, and I paid all in $26 inc. taxes and happily drove them home in my car. Saved well over $400 compared to Costco. I’m here again and plan to do it all over again.
WA has highest taxes in country. Almost 45% higher than #2.

https://files.taxfoundation.org/2018032 ... uor-01.png

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 8th, 2019, 9:42 pm
by PeterH
Kris Patten wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 9:21 pm
Chuck Miller wrote:
July 7th, 2019, 2:44 pm
It’s amazing how much bourbon prices can vary state to state, I assume mostly due to liquor taxes. In WA state we have some of the highest liquor taxes around. As an example, Basil Hayden can retail in Wa for well over $50. Costco sells it for about $44. I’m on a driving trip across the N. states, and bought a bottle for $54 in Missoula, Mt. A few days later, I bought a bottle in Brandon SD that was on the shelf at $27 plus tax, so just over $30 all in. Here in MN at my hometown liquor store, I think it’s around $30 on the shelf, so last year when I was here, I had them order 24 btls for me. They happily did so and gave me a case discount, PLUS a free bottle for every dozen btls of bourbon you buy, and I paid all in $26 inc. taxes and happily drove them home in my car. Saved well over $400 compared to Costco. I’m here again and plan to do it all over again.
WA has highest taxes in country. Almost 45% higher than #2.

https://files.taxfoundation.org/2018032 ... uor-01.png
Similar with cigarettes, sales, and inheritance tax. It all has to do with not having an income tax. I try to be relaxed in my attitude to WA state consumption taxes. I didn't feel that way back when I had below average income.

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 9th, 2019, 8:47 pm
by Kris Patten
PeterH wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 9:42 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 9:21 pm
Chuck Miller wrote:
July 7th, 2019, 2:44 pm
It’s amazing how much bourbon prices can vary state to state, I assume mostly due to liquor taxes. In WA state we have some of the highest liquor taxes around. As an example, Basil Hayden can retail in Wa for well over $50. Costco sells it for about $44. I’m on a driving trip across the N. states, and bought a bottle for $54 in Missoula, Mt. A few days later, I bought a bottle in Brandon SD that was on the shelf at $27 plus tax, so just over $30 all in. Here in MN at my hometown liquor store, I think it’s around $30 on the shelf, so last year when I was here, I had them order 24 btls for me. They happily did so and gave me a case discount, PLUS a free bottle for every dozen btls of bourbon you buy, and I paid all in $26 inc. taxes and happily drove them home in my car. Saved well over $400 compared to Costco. I’m here again and plan to do it all over again.
WA has highest taxes in country. Almost 45% higher than #2.

https://files.taxfoundation.org/2018032 ... uor-01.png
Similar with cigarettes, sales, and inheritance tax. It all has to do with not having an income tax. I try to be relaxed in my attitude to WA state consumption taxes. I didn't feel that way back when I had below average income.
Exactly, you're gonna get pinched one way or another, at least WA targets vices!

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 3:48 am
by Edward H. Earles
Jim Beam to face fines after fire leads to environmental problems

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Jim-B ... 47032.html

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 4:04 am
by Dan Kimmelman
Edward H. Earles wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:48 am
Jim Beam to face fines after fire leads to environmental problems

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Jim-B ... 47032.html
"Those clowns at Beam don't know shit about corporate risk management!" - PG&E Exec, probably

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 8:08 pm
by JunoS
Had the latest pinhook cask strength purple wax and Four Roses Small Batch select. Bothe great bourbons without the hefty secondary markups

Re: The Bourbon Thread

Posted: July 15th, 2019, 8:55 am
by alan weinberg