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Has anybody tried the Dickel 15 yr? Picked up a few as it seems too good of pricing these days for 15 yr old whiskey.

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Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: January 20th, 2021, 10:41 am Plcb sends out email with limited releases and they’re all sold out 1 min after the email is sent, ridiculous.
Does anyone have any experience with (or knowledge with respect to) PLCB/FWGS barrel picks? Good history? Is someone actually picking or do they just take whatever is sent?

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#4153 Post by Brandon R »

I grabbed a bottle of Old Scout Bourbon last week and had a bit over the weekend. Good stuff! It's a relatively inexpensive bottle and was tasty by itself. Apparently there is a Single Barrel bottling too, but this was just the regular stuff. Recommended.
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I don’t post a lot on this thread, but love it. I recently had the Bull Run American Whiskey 13 year old release. I think $40. It isn’t sweet, but it gives that easy drinkability of smoothness. It seems to be purchased whiskey from that big producer that willett used to get and finished in Pinot noir barrels. I was super impressed for the price and age attached to it. I bought this, multiple bottles of eagle rare and Blantons. Dollar for dollar, I couldn’t be happier. I hoping to pick up the other five tomorrow.
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#4155 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Have been drinking through a bottle of Kentucky Spirit (neat) and Michter’s American (Manhattans). Has been a great week!
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Got the 15yr old Dickel in the mail yesterday so popped a bottle.

A bit of sweetness on the nose caramel and spicy spices (cinnamon/nutmeg?) very nice nose.

Poured a splash of Weller SR to compare. Umm no....
Poured a splash of Weller 12 to compare. Ok here we are... nose is hint of oak and spice which is harmonious. This wins on the nose but falls short on the palate where the Dickel actually shines with more body and character.
Poured a splash of ETL. I consistently find this to be one of the more balanced whiskey out there and it showed here again and for me wins the day.

That said the Dickel is a very good buy imo at the very reasonable price in this crazy whiskey world.
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#4157 Post by Mike Maguire »

Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 25th, 2021, 9:39 pm Have been drinking through a bottle of Kentucky Spirit (neat) and Michter’s American (Manhattans). Has been a great week!
That Michters American is underrated, I really like it, different but in a good way

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#4158 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Had an interesting double blind tasting tonight, ranked as follows:
1. Old Forrester 1910
2. Woodford double oaked
3. Noble Oak (Double Oaked, sherry stave finish)
4. Custom blend (Sam Houston, in a small barrel)
5. Jim Beam Double Oaked (did not care for)
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#4159 Post by Mike Maguire »

Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 26th, 2021, 10:02 pm Had an interesting double blind tasting tonight, ranked as follows:
1. Old Forrester 1910
2. Woodford double oaked
3. Noble Oak (Double Oaked, sherry stave finish)
4. Custom blend (Sam Houston, in a small barrel)
5. Jim Beam Double Oaked (did not care for)
Big fan of the 1910 as well, per the distillery I used half a bottle of 1910 and 1920 to make 1915.Best of both worlds IMO

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#4160 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Guys at the Pine Lake QFC just stocked a Buffalo Trace Store Pick. Picked up a couple at $22.95; they’ll also have Eagle Rare SPs in a week or two. Early Times BiB is still on the shelf, if you’re interested.
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#4161 Post by Michael S. Monie »

Good day yesterday. Got 2 McKenna 10yr B in B, regular Blanton's, Stagg Jr Batch 12, and Tears of Lorona tequila.
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#4162 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Michael S. Monie wrote: March 27th, 2021, 11:03 am Good day yesterday. Got 2 McKenna 10yr B in B, regular Blanton's, Stagg Jr Batch 12, and Tears of Lorona tequila.
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#4163 Post by Michael S. Monie »

Mike Maguire wrote: March 27th, 2021, 9:53 am
Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 26th, 2021, 10:02 pm Had an interesting double blind tasting tonight, ranked as follows:
1. Old Forrester 1910
2. Woodford double oaked
3. Noble Oak (Double Oaked, sherry stave finish)
4. Custom blend (Sam Houston, in a small barrel)
5. Jim Beam Double Oaked (did not care for)
Big fan of the 1910 as well, per the distillery I used half a bottle of 1910 and 1920 to make 1915.Best of both worlds IMO
The 1910 just reappeared locally after an absence of several years. The other 3 in the series are continually available. Even though wine searcher shows a lot of availability of the 1910, I wonder if it is headed towards allocation at some point.
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Michael S. Monie wrote: March 27th, 2021, 11:03 am Good day yesterday. Got 2 McKenna 10yr B in B, regular Blanton's, Stagg Jr Batch 12, and Tears of Lorona tequila.
Blantons and a Stagg? Well done!
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#4165 Post by JulianD »

Has anyone been trying the Makers Wood Finishing Series? (SE4 and the new FAE)
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JulianD wrote: March 28th, 2021, 9:58 pm Has anyone been trying the Makers Wood Finishing Series? (SE4 and the new FAE)
I had the first one - RC6- and thought it was very nice and a big step up from regular MM. I have a bottle of the SE4 but haven’t popped it yet. If I come across the FAE at msrp I’ll probably get one.

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Adam Noble wrote: March 29th, 2021, 6:14 am
JulianD wrote: March 28th, 2021, 9:58 pm Has anyone been trying the Makers Wood Finishing Series? (SE4 and the new FAE)
I had the first one - RC6- and thought it was very nice and a big step up from regular MM. I have a bottle of the SE4 but haven’t popped it yet. If I come across the FAE at msrp I’ll probably get one.
I wasnt able to get the RC6, but liked the SE4. Recently picked up the FAE - supposed to be much more fruit forward.
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#4168 Post by Edward H. Earles »

Perusing Wine-Searcher just now, I saw that the "average price" for W. L. Weller 12-year old is $312. Back in 2014, I was visiting a relative in Texas, and we dropped into a store in Dallas, where I found that bottling for, as I recall, $33 each. So I bought 3 for a friend in Virginia. I hope he remembers that favor from time to time.

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Edward H. Earles wrote: March 30th, 2021, 12:50 pm Perusing Wine-Searcher just now, I saw that the "average price" for W. L. Weller 12-year old is $312. Back in 2014, I was visiting a relative in Texas, and we dropped into a store in Dallas, where I found that bottling for, as I recall, $33 each. So I bought 3 for a friend in Virginia. I hope he remembers that favor from time to time.
That is higher than any secondary price I’ve seen for Weller 12. Most recently I’ve seen is between 150-180 or so.

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Adam Noble wrote: March 30th, 2021, 1:06 pm
Edward H. Earles wrote: March 30th, 2021, 12:50 pm Perusing Wine-Searcher just now, I saw that the "average price" for W. L. Weller 12-year old is $312. Back in 2014, I was visiting a relative in Texas, and we dropped into a store in Dallas, where I found that bottling for, as I recall, $33 each. So I bought 3 for a friend in Virginia. I hope he remembers that favor from time to time.
That is higher than any secondary price I’ve seen for Weller 12. Most recently I’ve seen is between 150-180 or so.
I use 1000Corks (generally ignoring the NY listings) and it's there are several bottles around $250. Haven't seen it for $150 and would likely consider picking one up if that's OTD.
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Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 30th, 2021, 1:27 pm
Adam Noble wrote: March 30th, 2021, 1:06 pm
Edward H. Earles wrote: March 30th, 2021, 12:50 pm Perusing Wine-Searcher just now, I saw that the "average price" for W. L. Weller 12-year old is $312. Back in 2014, I was visiting a relative in Texas, and we dropped into a store in Dallas, where I found that bottling for, as I recall, $33 each. So I bought 3 for a friend in Virginia. I hope he remembers that favor from time to time.
That is higher than any secondary price I’ve seen for Weller 12. Most recently I’ve seen is between 150-180 or so.
I use 1000Corks (generally ignoring the NY listings) and it's there are several bottles around $250. Haven't seen it for $150 and would likely consider picking one up if that's OTD.
I paid $150 here in NJ recently. But that is few and far between. I passed on a lot of $250 bottles holding hope I would find a cheaper price. Ultimately I fell on to one at a good price. Takes a lot of hunting.
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I saw one go on an a group last week for $170.

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#4173 Post by Mike Maguire »

I have a case of the old style bottle that I paid 22.99 for , neener

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Mike Maguire wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:02 pm I have a case of the old style bottle that I paid 22.99 for , neener
I’m betting that was a LONG time ago.

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#4175 Post by Mike Maguire »

Adam Noble wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:06 pm
Mike Maguire wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:02 pm I have a case of the old style bottle that I paid 22.99 for , neener
I’m betting that was a LONG time ago.
Probably 2010 or so,one of the few advantages of being old. [highfive.gif]

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#4176 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Mike Maguire wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:51 pm
Adam Noble wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:06 pm
Mike Maguire wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:02 pm I have a case of the old style bottle that I paid 22.99 for , neener
I’m betting that was a LONG time ago.
Probably 2010 or so,one of the few advantages of being old. [highfive.gif]
You're not going to miss a single bottle... PM me for a good time, valued at $150 :D

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#4177 Post by Jorge Henriquez »

Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 30th, 2021, 9:12 pm
Mike Maguire wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:51 pm
Adam Noble wrote: March 30th, 2021, 8:06 pm

I’m betting that was a LONG time ago.
Probably 2010 or so,one of the few advantages of being old. [highfive.gif]
You're not going to miss a single bottle... PM me for a good time, valued at $150 :D

I'm headed that way Friday to pick-up some Floodland and could be convinced to trade beer for bourbon.
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#4178 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

Just in case there was ANY confusion - that post was an absolute joke, as was the $150 valuation (per above note).
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Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 31st, 2021, 4:55 am Just in case there was ANY confusion - that post was an absolute joke, as was the $150 valuation (per above note).
But he's already shipped you the bottles! [wow.gif]

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Edward H. Earles wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:55 am
Andrew Kotowski wrote: March 31st, 2021, 4:55 am Just in case there was ANY confusion - that post was an absolute joke, as was the $150 valuation (per above note).
But he's already shipped you the bottles! [wow.gif]
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#4181 Post by Brandon R »

Anyone had this? Grabbed one on a lark today...

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@Brandon - my bottle was 7 barrels down from yours and I thought it was GREAT. It’s good in a Manhattan, but also enjoyed frequently as a nightcap. I thought it was much smoother than the Rare Breed.
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Great! Thanks, Andrew. It was around $75 OTD as I recall.
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For the Seattle crowd - Pine Lake QFC landed their store pick. OTD is $41.38 ($31.99 plus taxes). I don’t think it will last through the weekend.
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Where are you guys getting Blanton's Gold? My place that does more business than anyone in the state and gets everything says they get 3 bottles a year.
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#4186 Post by F.Daner »

Michael- got McKenna at Zuppardo's this week. The only thing I found other than Sazerac everywhere for $18 so bringing plenty home. I did find some Brovia 2013 at Keife and Co. That was a nice wine find.

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#4187 Post by Benny P »

Inspired by the posts above regarding Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit, I finally cracked one open after avoiding it for so long. I had dismissed it thinking it was just a single barrel WT101 and couldn’t be worth the premium over regular WT101 (which I love as my bargain bourbon). Thankful for the inspiration as I did get a pleasant difference especially on the finish. I think Rare Breed is still my favorite WT product but really enjoyed this pour.
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Andrew K. wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 12:00 pm Where are you guys getting Blanton's Gold? My place that does more business than anyone in the state and gets everything says they get 3 bottles a year.
My understanding is that Blanton's Gold is not distributed in the United States at all (officially, any way), so any that appears will have been sourced in the secondary market from a private collection. Someone (if memory serves correctly, a tour guide at Buffalo Trace) told me that the entire stock of Blanton's Gold was bought by a Japanese firm years ago, while still in barrel, before it had ever been distributed in the United States. The only BG I've ever tasted (which I loved, probably my favorite Bourbon ever) was brought in from either the Bahamas or the British Virgin Islands, I forget now which.

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#4189 Post by TGigante »

Edward H. Earles wrote: April 19th, 2021, 10:17 am
Andrew K. wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 12:00 pm Where are you guys getting Blanton's Gold? My place that does more business than anyone in the state and gets everything says they get 3 bottles a year.
My understanding is that Blanton's Gold is not distributed in the United States at all (officially, any way), so any that appears will have been sourced in the secondary market from a private collection. Someone (if memory serves correctly, a tour guide at Buffalo Trace) told me that the entire stock of Blanton's Gold was bought by a Japanese firm years ago, while still in barrel, before it had ever been distributed in the United States. The only BG I've ever tasted (which I loved, probably my favorite Bourbon ever) was brought in from either the Bahamas or the British Virgin Islands, I forget now which.
Last year in Feb they announced that Gold would be a limited annual summer release in the US

Not sure if that was implemented last year with the pandemic or if anyone has any knowledge of a release for this year
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#4190 Post by JulianD »

TGigante wrote: April 19th, 2021, 11:20 am
Edward H. Earles wrote: April 19th, 2021, 10:17 am
Andrew K. wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 12:00 pm Where are you guys getting Blanton's Gold? My place that does more business than anyone in the state and gets everything says they get 3 bottles a year.
My understanding is that Blanton's Gold is not distributed in the United States at all (officially, any way), so any that appears will have been sourced in the secondary market from a private collection. Someone (if memory serves correctly, a tour guide at Buffalo Trace) told me that the entire stock of Blanton's Gold was bought by a Japanese firm years ago, while still in barrel, before it had ever been distributed in the United States. The only BG I've ever tasted (which I loved, probably my favorite Bourbon ever) was brought in from either the Bahamas or the British Virgin Islands, I forget now which.
Last year in Feb they announced that Gold would be a limited annual summer release in the US

Not sure if that was implemented last year with the pandemic or if anyone has any knowledge of a release for this year
It's 'available'/distributed.... in the same way Pappy and WLW/GTS are available for purchase - either you know someone or you're being asking to pay 5x MSRP
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Edward H. Earles wrote: April 19th, 2021, 10:17 am
Andrew K. wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 12:00 pm Where are you guys getting Blanton's Gold? My place that does more business than anyone in the state and gets everything says they get 3 bottles a year.
My understanding is that Blanton's Gold is not distributed in the United States at all (officially, any way), so any that appears will have been sourced in the secondary market from a private collection. Someone (if memory serves correctly, a tour guide at Buffalo Trace) told me that the entire stock of Blanton's Gold was bought by a Japanese firm years ago, while still in barrel, before it had ever been distributed in the United States. The only BG I've ever tasted (which I loved, probably my favorite Bourbon ever) was brought in from either the Bahamas or the British Virgin Islands, I forget now which.
The US 2020 release of Blanton's Gold was discussed a few pages back. I did not see any bottles in 2020, but there are 750mL bottles listed online.

As others have mentioned BG (and BSFTB) was previously an international release only. The best place to acquire was international travel or secondary market. A friend found a few bottles of BSFTB in the Virgin Islands a few years ago. I would imagine that most of those bottles have disappeared as well.

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#4192 Post by William Segui »

Family is asleep, poured some WFP while watching the Warriors. Went back to the beginning of this thread, there are some unreal buys/pass back there. Apparently back in 2011 I was mad that Sazerac 18 was close to $90. Probably about the last time I saw one too

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William Segui wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:44 pm Family is asleep, poured some WFP while watching the Warriors. Went back to the beginning of this thread, there are some unreal buys/pass back there. Apparently back in 2011 I was mad that Sazerac 18 was close to $90. Probably about the last time I saw one too
I saw some crazy deals back in 2013/14....Weller 12 1.75Ls for $40, Pappy 13 Rye for $35, and I could buy Elmer T. Lee, any Weller, Rock Hill Farms and others in full barrels.

Oh well, sure it's how folks who bought 1982 BDX on release felt.
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Re: The Bourbon Thread

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I remember when I first moved to Dallas 5 years ago, EH Taylor would sit on the shelf, now Small Batch is lucky to find and you might have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding Single Barrel or Barrel Proof.
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R. Wilhite wrote: April 24th, 2021, 10:41 pm I remember when I first moved to Dallas 5 years ago, EH Taylor would sit on the shelf, now Small Batch is lucky to find and you might have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding Single Barrel or Barrel Proof.
Small Batch is still pretty available in WA state if you know where to look, with the rye and single barrel popping up from time to time. Have never seen a Barrel Proof in the wild here :(
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#4196 Post by Kris Patten »

Andrew Kotowski wrote: April 25th, 2021, 6:22 am
R. Wilhite wrote: April 24th, 2021, 10:41 pm I remember when I first moved to Dallas 5 years ago, EH Taylor would sit on the shelf, now Small Batch is lucky to find and you might have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding Single Barrel or Barrel Proof.
Small Batch is still pretty available in WA state if you know where to look, with the rye and single barrel popping up from time to time. Have never seen a Barrel Proof in the wild here :(
Small Batch will be very scarce for next few months.
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Kris Patten wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:36 pm
Andrew Kotowski wrote: April 25th, 2021, 6:22 am
R. Wilhite wrote: April 24th, 2021, 10:41 pm I remember when I first moved to Dallas 5 years ago, EH Taylor would sit on the shelf, now Small Batch is lucky to find and you might have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding Single Barrel or Barrel Proof.
Small Batch is still pretty available in WA state if you know where to look, with the rye and single barrel popping up from time to time. Have never seen a Barrel Proof in the wild here :(
Small Batch will be very scarce for next few months.
Sweet. I’m taking offers then :)
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#4198 Post by R. Wilhite »

Andrew Kotowski wrote: April 25th, 2021, 11:18 pm
Kris Patten wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:36 pm
Andrew Kotowski wrote: April 25th, 2021, 6:22 am
Small Batch is still pretty available in WA state if you know where to look, with the rye and single barrel popping up from time to time. Have never seen a Barrel Proof in the wild here :(
Small Batch will be very scarce for next few months.
Sweet. I’m taking offers then :)
I will take all you got, at near retail.

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#4199 Post by Andrew Kotowski »

R. Wilhite wrote: April 27th, 2021, 8:06 pm
Andrew Kotowski wrote: April 25th, 2021, 11:18 pm
Kris Patten wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:36 pm

Small Batch will be very scarce for next few months.
Sweet. I’m taking offers then :)
I will take all you got, at near retail.

Work for Amazon and make it to Seattle from time to time.

We should get together some time when travel opens and I can make it up there
PM me when you make it up here; I'm sure we'll have several friends in common ;)
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#4200 Post by Steven King »

Anyone with experience on the Redemption 9, 10, and 11 YO? I saw Bourbon and High Rye, 9 and 10 YO. Regular Redemption High Rye used to be a go to, but started tasting young.

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