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#2901 Post by Jay $$ Winton » January 25th, 2018, 7:05 am

Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
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#2902 Post by alan weinberg » January 25th, 2018, 8:02 am

J a y W i n t % n wrote:Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
bought a b that I have t opened. (I do that a lot—can’t drink it fast enough.)

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#2903 Post by Scott Butler » January 25th, 2018, 8:14 am

J a y W i n t % n wrote:Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
Yep, almost done with a bottle, I like it quite a bit, very smooth and tasty. Very solid QPR, $35 around here.
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#2904 Post by Mike Maguire » January 25th, 2018, 5:00 pm

Scott Butler wrote:
J a y W i n t % n wrote:Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
Yep, almost done with a bottle, I like it quite a bit, very smooth and tasty. Very solid QPR, $35 around here.
I finished a bottle a couple weeks ago and thought it was OK for $35, tried it neat and it had quite a bite, much better with an ice cube.I won’t be looking for another.

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#2905 Post by ClarkstonMark » January 26th, 2018, 7:46 am

Michae1 P0wers wrote:
This is the Pappy MI retail pricing right? Seems like the question asked was about Old Fitz. Or am I mistaken somehow?
Yes, I probably should have quoted the full post Kris made, where he mentioned posting the Pappy wholesale prices
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#2906 Post by Jay $$ Winton » January 26th, 2018, 8:53 am

Mike Maguire wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:
J a y W i n t % n wrote:Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
Yep, almost done with a bottle, I like it quite a bit, very smooth and tasty. Very solid QPR, $35 around here.
I finished a bottle a couple weeks ago and thought it was OK for $35, tried it neat and it had quite a bite, much better with an ice cube.I won’t be looking for another.
It is 100 proof so adding a touch of spring water is a good idea I think.
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#2907 Post by Scott Butler » January 26th, 2018, 11:30 am

Mike Maguire wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:
J a y W i n t % n wrote:Anyone tried Rowan Creek ? A buy under $40, IMO. EDIT: I see it can be had for as little as $30 which makes it a real value. Produced by Willett.
Yep, almost done with a bottle, I like it quite a bit, very smooth and tasty. Very solid QPR, $35 around here.
I finished a bottle a couple weeks ago and thought it was OK for $35, tried it neat and it had quite a bite, much better with an ice cube.I won’t be looking for another.
Interesting, I didn't get the bite myself.
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#2908 Post by Wil Franklin » January 26th, 2018, 3:58 pm

So much to learn when it comes to whisk(e)y. Here's what I've learned so far.

Bourbon = a medicine
Rye = an indulgence
Scotch = a study

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#2909 Post by Kris Patten » February 3rd, 2018, 6:29 pm

Saw a snapshot of the next Parker's Heritage, it will have been finished for 4 months in Orange Curacao barrels. Looking forward to it.
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#2910 Post by RDHudak » February 3rd, 2018, 7:48 pm

Wil Franklin wrote:So much to learn when it comes to whisk(e)y. Here's what I've learned so far.

Bourbon = a medicine
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Is it time for my meds?
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#2911 Post by james l moleberg » February 4th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Enjoying one of my all time favorites: willett 17 yr bonilli 7787. Go eagles.

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#2912 Post by R. Gleiberm@n » February 6th, 2018, 6:02 pm

This was part of my post in the travel forum but I though I would mention it here as well. I was in London for a long weekend. Ate lunch at Burger & Lobster (the one inside of Harvey Nichols) and they were selling shots of Pappy 15 for ~30 bucks (21 GBP). They had a full unopened bottle that the bartender did not notice on the shelf but I did.
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#2913 Post by Alan Eden » February 11th, 2018, 5:34 pm

R. Gleiberm@n wrote:This was part of my post in the travel forum but I though I would mention it here as well. I was in London for a long weekend. Ate lunch at Burger & Lobster (the one inside of Harvey Nichols) and they were selling shots of Pappy 15 for ~30 bucks (21 GBP). They had a full unopened bottle that the bartender did not notice on the shelf but I did.
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#2914 Post by Andrew T » March 1st, 2018, 9:14 am

I found 5 of these in my great uncles barn when passed. They are unopened, 1961 Stizer Weller Old Fitzgerald by Candlelight. The top is a candlestick holder. Can't figure out how to upload an image on here. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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#2915 Post by Paul Miller » March 1st, 2018, 10:17 am

Speaking of old bottles...

My mother in-law and her sister are both widowed and now in declining health. Recently, I've been helping my wife and her brothers sort through both homes. In the process, we found a few bottles of old liquor, including these bourbon/whiskey bottles. Neither of them, nor their husbands, drank much, but my father in-law was an electrician. At Christmas, it was not uncommon for him to receive bottles of liquor from co-workers or vendors. These bottles range from 1959 (my wife's birth year), up to 1978.
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The three boxes in the back are unopened bottles, and one of the boxes (the VO) is sealed with a fancy sticker. The Seagrams 7 is unopened, but not sure the year (the tax label does not specify). The CC is from 1978 and is unopened. The two standalone bottles of CC in the front are unopened and from '69 and '72.

The Seagrams VO in the back right is from '59, and it was already opened. We gave it a try, and it is still quite good. My wife has decided that she will take a shot of it every year on her birthday going forward. So I've stashed it away.

The Seagrams 7 on the right was already open. No year on the tax label. It's ok, but I think it is already oxidizing. We found it, along with the 2oz bottle of Four Roses at her aunt's. It has no date either, and is unopened. I'm tempted to pop it. I had a glass of 70's era Four Roses at The Milk Room, so this has me quite curious.

Finally the bottle in the middle, the Walker's. It was already opened. Not sure of the year on this either. My expectations were very low. Figured this was mass-produced plonk from Peoria, IL. I was SHOCKED how much I liked this. Wish I had more of it.

The open bottles we'll probably drink. Not sure what we'll do with the unopened bottles. I've always thought of these as low-end liquors. A couple of local bartenders are begging us to sell them these bottles, including the Milk Room. Said over time these brands became plonk, but back then were a bit better made.

That said, that night at the Milk Room, I had two (2) cocktails, and next morning I had the worst headache of my life. One of the bartenders told me in the 60's and 70's that the distillers were much more willing to add "tails" into the blends. So as I drink any of these, it will be done slowly and carefully.

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#2916 Post by JeromeHan » March 1st, 2018, 12:57 pm

You can check the age of the Seagrams 7 on the bottom of the bottle. It should be embossed. I have one from 83 that is still unopened.

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#2917 Post by Andrew Kotowski » March 3rd, 2018, 11:38 am

Picked up some Weller 12 at 45 Euros (~$55) Total Wine is clearly cheaper, but factoring in VAT, etc, doesn’t feel like I got robbed.
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#2918 Post by RDHudak » March 3rd, 2018, 12:43 pm

Andrew Kotowski wrote:Picked up some Weller 12 at 45 Euros (~$55) Total Wine is clearly cheaper, but factoring in VAT, etc, doesn’t feel like I got robbed.
Seems like a decent deal. I saw some last year at $130.00. !!!

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#2919 Post by Bruce Rudman » March 16th, 2018, 6:15 pm

Nursing a very nice pour of Willett tonight. I forgot how good this could be.
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#2920 Post by Kris Patten » March 17th, 2018, 8:23 pm

The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
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#2921 Post by S Haller » March 17th, 2018, 9:27 pm

Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
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#2922 Post by Robert M yers » March 18th, 2018, 2:09 am

Weller 12 is certainly fine stuff (way overhyped now though), but the other bottlings aren’t worth anything beyond basically msrp imo.

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#2923 Post by EHeffner » March 21st, 2018, 1:25 pm

Eagle rare is my go to bourbon. I currently have 1 unopened bottle. I have the option of buying another one for $30, or a magnum for $50. Part of me says go for mag bc It’s so cool, but part of me says just grab the 750 since I already have some. Thoughts? Any experience with the ER mag?
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#2924 Post by YacobovE » March 21st, 2018, 1:41 pm

EHeffner wrote:Eagle rare is my go to bourbon. I currently have 1 unopened bottle. I have the option of buying another one for $30, or a magnum for $50. Part of me says go for mag bc It’s so cool, but part of me says just grab the 750 since I already have some. Thoughts? Any experience with the ER mag?
If you have space for the 1.75L ER10 (since it is a very tall bottle), I’d buy that. It’s a way better cost value (equivalent 750ml price is $21.43 vs $30 for the 750ml bottle) and if it’s your “go to bourbon” more is always better than less.
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#2925 Post by Jorge Henriquez » March 21st, 2018, 1:44 pm

Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
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#2926 Post by EHeffner » March 21st, 2018, 1:52 pm

Ok thanks, just wasn’t sure if the bourbon will degrade over time, as clearly I’d finish a 750 well before the mag. Obviously the mag will be tough to store out of light if I want to display it
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#2927 Post by EHeffner » March 23rd, 2018, 1:27 pm

Local wine shop has 1 bottle of Noah’s mill at $50. It has great reviews online, but my buddy who’s opinion I trust said its a hard pass at $50, stating ER10, Four roses single barrel and EJ single barrel is much better value. Thoughts?
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#2928 Post by John Osburn » March 23rd, 2018, 4:56 pm

It's $70 +/- around these parts. I like it quite a bit.

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#2929 Post by R. Gleiberm@n » March 27th, 2018, 3:42 pm

EHeffner wrote:Local wine shop has 1 bottle of Noah’s mill at $50. It has great reviews online, but my buddy who’s opinion I trust said its a hard pass at $50, stating ER10, Four roses single barrel and EJ single barrel is much better value. Thoughts?
I disagree. One of my personal favorites. In my option, I would not think twice about putting Noah's Mills above any of those that you mentioned. I typically see it around $45 in Maryland.
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#2930 Post by RDHudak » March 27th, 2018, 4:06 pm

Noah's Mill is very, very good. Hard to find here, but a solid value.

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#2931 Post by EHeffner » March 27th, 2018, 7:32 pm

Hm maybe I should grab that bottle to for science purposes lol
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#2932 Post by Mike Maguire » March 27th, 2018, 8:14 pm

Much prefer Rowans Creek to Noahs mill on the newer releases.The older wax top Noahs are stunning.

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#2933 Post by JeromeHan » March 28th, 2018, 6:36 am

EHeffner wrote:Hm maybe I should grab that bottle to for science purposes lol
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#2934 Post by Al Ehrhardt » March 28th, 2018, 10:07 am

Mike Maguire wrote:Much prefer Rowans Creek to Noahs mill on the newer releases.The older wax top Noahs are stunning.
Agree with Mike on the old wax top bottles. I had a few newer bottles that weren't for me and I stopped buying. But still have five of those great wax bottles in the bunker.

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#2935 Post by james l moleberg » April 3rd, 2018, 6:53 am

Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
So then offer up a w12 at $30 and re-set the market. Or you could just go on complaining.

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#2936 Post by Brandon R » April 3rd, 2018, 9:43 am

I just picked up a bottle of Elijah Craig Small Batch Barrel Proof. It's a 12-year-old whisky, and it's dang tasty - a very strong QPR. I'll re-buy for sure.
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#2937 Post by Brandon R » April 3rd, 2018, 9:48 am

james l moleberg wrote:
Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
So then offer up a w12 at $30 and re-set the market. Or you could just go on complaining.
This struck me as an oddly aggressive comment and then, upon researching a bit, I realized you're selling Weller over on Commerce Corner. Shocker. Maybe, "aggressive" isn't the right word...
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#2938 Post by james l moleberg » April 3rd, 2018, 11:09 am

Brandon R wrote:
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Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
So then offer up a w12 at $30 and re-set the market. Or you could just go on complaining.
This struck me as an oddly aggressive comment and then, upon researching a bit, I realized you're selling Weller over on Commerce Corner. Shocker. Maybe, "aggressive" isn't the right word...
the weller i sold was in response to someone selling the 2 bottles for $175. i sold the bottles at cost: $39.99 on the owa107 and $34.99 on the wsr. add in tax and shipping and i didn't make a penny on the pair. what i love though is hearing people say owa107 is wholesale at $20. that's great- which retailer is selling wholesale so i can go and stock up? additionally, picking your battle on owa107 is strange considering pappy is selling at times for a 1000% increase. that was where my comment was originating from.

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#2939 Post by Mike Maguire » April 3rd, 2018, 11:24 am

If you noticed Kris’s signature line you might understand where his frustration emanates from.

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#2940 Post by james l moleberg » April 3rd, 2018, 11:29 am

unless Kris is selling the weller 107 at his wholesale cost of $20, his comment thus rings of utter hypocrisy. like i said, he can post up a bottle of the weller 12 at $30.

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#2941 Post by Kris Patten » April 4th, 2018, 8:44 pm

james l moleberg wrote:
Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
So then offer up a w12 at $30 and re-set the market. Or you could just go on complaining.
Don't think I complained. For all I know the CC bottles are being resold after being bought at retail for high prices. I can't control that, but people should know what normal retail should be, I emphasize should at 30 to 40% margin. I wouldn't offer any on CC, it's illegal, besides we sell all we get in WA at normal wholesale prices after that retailers and restaurants can charge what they want.
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#2942 Post by Kris Patten » April 23rd, 2018, 9:24 pm

New Bourbon coming from Heaven Hill with a big age statement. Should be great knowing the family and commitment to quality.

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#2943 Post by EHeffner » April 24th, 2018, 1:30 pm

Local total had Rowan’s for $40 and only 1 bottle left so snagged it. Figured for $40, I’ll just figure out if I like it. Idk why I had trouble buying Noah’s for $50 but pulled trigger on Rowan’s for 40 :o
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#2944 Post by Kris Patten » April 24th, 2018, 8:57 pm

$10 got you the 24 pack of Diet Coke to mix it with and a bag of ice.

Seriously, never had Rowan's, what's it like?
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#2945 Post by Scott Butler » April 25th, 2018, 7:27 am

I think Rowan's is very good. it's made by Willett and I can get it locally for $35. It's got a fair amount of Rye so it gets the spiciness you would associate with Rye. Good stuff for the price.
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#2946 Post by bradkaplan » April 25th, 2018, 9:12 am

FYI, Rowan's Creek (like Noah's Mill) is bottled by KBD/Willett, but sourced from elsewhere. I don't think there's been a definitive answer on who the distilleries are that go into these (and it may have changed over time).
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#2947 Post by Michae1 P0wers » April 25th, 2018, 11:16 am

Kris Patten wrote:
james l moleberg wrote:
Kris Patten wrote:The secondary prices on Weller and others are absurd....commerce corner is as bad. Weller 107 and SR wholesale for about $20, 12 year is shy of $30. Every time I see an offer it makes me shiver.
So then offer up a w12 at $30 and re-set the market. Or you could just go on complaining.
Don't think I complained. For all I know the CC bottles are being resold after being bought at retail for high prices. I can't control that, but people should know what normal retail should be, I emphasize should at 30 to 40% margin. I wouldn't offer any on CC, it's illegal, besides we sell all we get in WA at normal wholesale prices after that retailers and restaurants can charge what they want.
I agree with Kris. The prices charged for Weller are so absurd for so many reasons. At least with Pappy it's got the ne plus ultra perceived rarity thing going for it, but with Weller it's just a fair $30 Bourbon being flogged as Pappy-junior as if that makes it awesome. I've always been a bit torn on whether it's okay to sell things to idiots for many multiples of its worth, the market playing its role and all that. Probably I fall on the side of it's not really shameful or over the line, as much as it is just incredibly tacky.

In any case, Kris is in the business. He doesn't have to sell on CC or the secondary market in order to have an opinion on secondary pricing. I for one think pricing discussion should be allowed on CC so as to allow for in-thread shaming.

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#2948 Post by JeromeHan » April 25th, 2018, 11:42 am

Michae1 P0wers wrote: I agree with Kris. The prices charged for Weller are so absurd for so many reasons. At least with Pappy it's got the ne plus ultra perceived rarity thing going for it, but with Weller it's just a fair $30 Bourbon being flogged as Pappy-junior as if that makes it awesome. I've always been a bit torn on whether it's okay to sell things to idiots for many multiples of its worth, the market playing its role and all that. Probably I fall on the side of it's not really shameful or over the line, as much as it is just incredibly tacky.

In any case, Kris is in the business. He doesn't have to sell on CC or the secondary market in order to have an opinion on secondary pricing. I for one think pricing discussion should be allowed on CC so as to allow for in-thread shaming.
It really is annoying with Weller. Saw a Weller 12 in a store and was told $165. I politely smiled and said that's a healthy mark up and the owner got extremely defensive saying how it's basically rebranded Pappy and that he is surprised I didn't know that. He knows for a fact that that is the lowest price I will see in the country. So I thanked him for letting me know and walked out. Sigh.

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#2949 Post by Jay $$ Winton » April 25th, 2018, 2:34 pm

Scott Butler wrote:I think Rowan's is very good. it's made by Willett and I can get it locally for $35. It's got a fair amount of Rye so it gets the spiciness you would associate with Rye. Good stuff for the price.
Yep, doesn't top Bowman Brothers for QPR but solid. Interesting comment about the Rye-it wasn't that obvious to me.
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#2950 Post by Michae1 P0wers » April 25th, 2018, 4:01 pm

J a y W i n t % n wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:I think Rowan's is very good. it's made by Willett and I can get it locally for $35. It's got a fair amount of Rye so it gets the spiciness you would associate with Rye. Good stuff for the price.
Yep, doesn't top Bowman Brothers for QPR but solid. Interesting comment about the Rye-it wasn't that obvious to me.
I’ll have to look for Bowman bros. These days I pretty much just buy 4 Roses single or small. Still great qpr

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