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What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#1 Post by Brandon R » October 1st, 2020, 9:50 am

There is a thread about Rye, and a cocktail thread, but I'd like to consolidate recommendations for cocktails that feature Rye. I have a nice, shiny bottle of Sazerac waiting for this weekend. Not fancy, I know, but cheap and great for cocktails. TIA
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#2 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 1st, 2020, 9:52 am

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#3 Post by Brandon R » October 1st, 2020, 9:53 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
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manhattan
Me too. I want to get out of the rut, if possible. With that said, though, some cocktails require such obscure ingredients, that I keep going back to the classics.
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#4 Post by Craig G » October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am

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#5 Post by Josh Grossman » October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am

Craig G wrote:
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Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.

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#6 Post by JDavisRoby » October 1st, 2020, 10:02 am

I like a rye old fashioned. A little spice with the sweet.
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#7 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 1st, 2020, 10:18 am

Old fashioneds should only be made with korbel.

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#8 Post by ybarselah » October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am

my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
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#9 Post by David K o l i n » October 1st, 2020, 10:42 am

Rye+Ice

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#10 Post by Michael S. Monie » October 1st, 2020, 11:43 am

Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
+1 It's Louisiana's state drink.
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#11 Post by Brandon R » October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am

Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am
Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
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#12 Post by Josh Grossman » October 1st, 2020, 11:51 am

Brandon R wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am
Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
This is my go to but I'm no expert:
http://www.stgeorgespirits.com/spirits/ ... the-verte/

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#13 Post by Craig G » October 1st, 2020, 11:59 am

Brandon R wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am
Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
I use Lucid.

If you can find any Absinthe in 50ml bottles you can try those, since it takes very little to make a Sazerac.
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#14 Post by ybarselah » October 1st, 2020, 12:29 pm

Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:59 am
Brandon R wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am


My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
I use Lucid.

If you can find any Absinthe in 50ml bottles you can try those, since it takes very little to make a Sazerac.
years ago i filled a tiny spritz bottle with it and use that for a sazerac. works perfectly. spray the inside of the glass, then build the cocktail.
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#15 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » October 1st, 2020, 12:33 pm

The New Pal, which is "Negroni and Sazerac had a baby and it tastes better than either."

I generally use equal parts of the main three ingredients, but this recipe is heavier on the rye than the other two.

I also use 1 tsp of absinthe instead of just a dash. I wouldn't go any heavier than that, as it can overwhelm everything else, but I don't have that issue at 1 tsp.

Tweak to your taste, of course.

https://imbibemagazine.com/recipe/new-pal-cocktail/

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#16 Post by Michael Martin » October 1st, 2020, 12:37 pm

Boulevardier

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#17 Post by J.Vizuete » October 1st, 2020, 2:07 pm

I'm jamming on the Brooklyn (or my riff on it). I up the maraschino and china china just a bit to add sweetness and viscosity. Try the original (.25oz of the last two ingredients) first and decide. China China is sometimes hard to find but worth a pick-up if you haven't tried it. It's great in boozy whiskey based cocktails.

https://tuxedono2.com/brooklyn-cocktail-recipe

2 oz rye
.75 oz dry vermouth (I use dolin)
.5 oz maraschino liqueur (I use luxardo)
.5 oz china china (or amer picon)
Stir and serve up

Totally second the spray bottle for your Absinthe rinse for the Sazerac (or Corpse Reviver #2). I use Pernod at home. It works great and is kind of a fun party trick too. Use the spray bottles to top off a Penicillin w/peaty scotch or tequila based cocktails with Mescal.
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#18 Post by ybarselah » October 1st, 2020, 2:11 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 12:37 pm
Boulevardier
top 5 cocktails for me
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#19 Post by Michael_H » October 1st, 2020, 3:04 pm

Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:59 am
Brandon R wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am


My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
I use Lucid.

If you can find any Absinthe in 50ml bottles you can try those, since it takes very little to make a Sazerac.
I found some St George absinthe available in a 200 ml bottle. Use it primarily for sazeracs and have had it for quite some time now...

My two favorite rye cocktails have been mentioned here - boulevardier and sazerac. For my sazeracs, I try to stay true to the long ago roots of it (originally a cognac cocktail) and use equal parts rye and cognac.
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#20 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm

ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
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#21 Post by ybarselah » October 1st, 2020, 3:45 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm
ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
if there's anything for which i can be counted upon, it's influencing the consumption of hard alcohol. this is the other variation that i'm into: https://punchdrink.com/recipes/newark/
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#22 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 1st, 2020, 4:04 pm

ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:45 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm
ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
if there's anything for which i can be counted upon, it's influencing the consumption of hard alcohol. this is the other variation that i'm into: https://punchdrink.com/recipes/newark/
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#23 Post by Rodrigo B » October 1st, 2020, 4:13 pm

Views Carre. One of my favourite cocktails period. Equal parts rye, cognac and sweet vermouth with a dollop of benedictine and some bitters. I always thought of it like the rye version of the negroni in that its mostly a simple 1:1:1 cocktail and that chosing different brands for each ingredient drastically change the flavour profile of the drink for better or worse
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#24 Post by J.Vizuete » October 1st, 2020, 4:18 pm

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Views Carre. One of my favourite cocktails period. Equal parts rye, cognac and sweet vermouth with a dollop of benedictine and some bitters. I always thought of it like the rye version of the negroni in that its mostly a simple 1:1:1 cocktail and that chosing different brands for each ingredient drastically change the flavour profile of the drink for better or worse
Ahh, the Vieux Carré. I almost forgot that one. Age it in a barrel for a month and when you have that on tap... every day is a win
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#25 Post by Rodrigo B » October 1st, 2020, 4:27 pm

J.Vizuete wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 4:18 pm
Rodrigo B wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 4:13 pm
Views Carre. One of my favourite cocktails period. Equal parts rye, cognac and sweet vermouth with a dollop of benedictine and some bitters. I always thought of it like the rye version of the negroni in that its mostly a simple 1:1:1 cocktail and that chosing different brands for each ingredient drastically change the flavour profile of the drink for better or worse
Ahh, the Vieux Carré. I almost forgot that one. Age it in a barrel for a month and when you have that on tap... every day is a win
I think it’s one of the most underrated cocktails out there. I do a barrel of ot 2-3 times a year. I had this version (https://punchdrink.com/recipes/meadowoods-vieux-carre) of the cocktail a few years ago and and absolutely loved it. It's worth taking the time to make that brandy just for this cocktail.
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#26 Post by Brandon R » October 2nd, 2020, 8:51 am

What is Benedictine? I searched and it looks like it's not a type of spirit, but one actual brand and that's all they make. Can you clarify?
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#27 Post by Adam Frisch » October 2nd, 2020, 8:57 am

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#28 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » October 2nd, 2020, 9:02 am

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What is Benedictine? I searched and it looks like it's not a type of spirit, but one actual brand and that's all they make. Can you clarify?
Correct. Like Chartreuse, it's a specific liqueur. They make two products - "Beneditine" (the original) and "B&B" which is Benedictine and Brandy, and less sweet. Like most herbal liqueurs, its background is as a curative/restorative product - here, its reputation seems to have built on the wonders it reputedly worked for consumptives and others with breathing issues.

Some cool info and pics here:

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#29 Post by K.C0LBURN » October 2nd, 2020, 9:08 am

Brandon R wrote:
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What is Benedictine? I searched and it looks like it's not a type of spirit, but one actual brand and that's all they make. Can you clarify?
Benedictine:
https://www.thespruceeats.com/benedicti ... eur-760249

....is an herbal liqueur (fulfills the bitter component of the cocktail). Here’s a link that lists substitutes as well, but I highly recommend going with the specific liqueur. The complex flavors really make a good drink.

My favorite rye cocktails have already been mentioned. Boulevardier (if you like slightly sweeter), Vieux Carre (if you like a little drier), and Sazerac (if you’re after the anise flourish).

If you’re feeling adventurous you could also try a Whiskey Daisy, but that’s more of a summer drink in my opinion. There are lots of ways to make it and prep matters, so it’s more one I’d pick up from a bartender...
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#30 Post by Rodrigo B » October 2nd, 2020, 9:40 am

Brandon R wrote:
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What is Benedictine? I searched and it looks like it's not a type of spirit, but one actual brand and that's all they make. Can you clarify?
Benedictine, or Bénédictine if you’re being fancy with the punctuation marks is a herbal liquor. There’s no sort of alternative to it, it’s kinda like Drambuie or Chartreuse in that sense where it’s only one product from one manufacturer.

You tend to use it it small quantities as both a sweetener and as a modifier to add an earthy sweetness to drinks like the Vieux Carre, Ford, De La Louisiane, Bobby Burns, and the Singapore Sling (all really delicious drinks worth trying out if you get your hands on a bottle of Benedictine). I guess the closest you could get to it would be a really intricate herbal simple syrup with some aromatic bitters thrown in. They do sell them by the half bottle, and that's what I tend to buy for the home bar as going through a 750ml bottle a 1/4 or 1/8oz at a time takes a while.
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#31 Post by Jim Marmion » October 2nd, 2020, 10:54 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:43 am
Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
+1 It's Louisiana's state drink.
I have a rule that I only drink Sazeracs when in New Orleans.

Of course, that also means it's so much fun when I break it.....

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#32 Post by J.Vizuete » October 2nd, 2020, 12:40 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm
ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
I made this drink last night... then I made it again. Just an outstanding version of a Manhattan. It has a little tea note from the Chartreuse and just more interest than a regular Manhattan. Thanks for the tip! I don’t enjoy Mescal so I was wondering what to do with this bottle of yellow Chartreuse purchased for the Naked and Famous. Problem solved!

From the Scotch thread, I went for the Clynelish 14 per Sarah’s recommendation and can confirm it is excellent. Cheers
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#33 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 2nd, 2020, 12:50 pm

J.Vizuete wrote:
October 2nd, 2020, 12:40 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm
ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
I made this drink last night... then I made it again. Just an outstanding version of a Manhattan. It has a little tea note from the Chartreuse and just more interest than a regular Manhattan. Thanks for the tip! I don’t enjoy Mescal so I was wondering what to do with this bottle of yellow Chartreuse purchased for the Naked and Famous. Problem solved!

From the Scotch thread, I went for the Clynelish 14 per Sarah’s recommendation and can confirm it is excellent. Cheers
Glad you liked the Clynelish. I have high hopes for the distillery despite being owned now by a giant. So, too, Brora. Now if that distillery can regain even a fraction of its past glory, we're all in for a treat.
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#34 Post by Brandon R » October 2nd, 2020, 2:28 pm

I'm ready to try some of these after stopping to grab some things I didn't have!

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#35 Post by Craig G » October 2nd, 2020, 4:40 pm

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#36 Post by Andrew K. » October 2nd, 2020, 5:22 pm

My fav rye cocktail.

1.5 Rye
.5 Punt a mes
.5 Cardamaro/Montenegro Amaro
.25 Fernet branca

Stir and serve in a chilled coupe glass. Perfect fall cocktail.
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#37 Post by Andrew Kotowski » October 3rd, 2020, 8:12 am

Brandon R wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 11:47 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am
Craig G wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.
John/Craig, what's a widely-available Absinthe that might play nicely with Sazerac Rye?
I use this, which is distributed locally (Seattle).
https://www.leopoldbros.com/absinthe

Definitely enjoy a Sazerac when I can!
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#38 Post by Peter Metzger » October 3rd, 2020, 9:39 am

Michael Martin wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 12:37 pm
Boulevardier
Like this one too, along with a Manhattan.
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#39 Post by Peter Metzger » October 3rd, 2020, 2:46 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 3:18 pm
ybarselah wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:38 am
my single favorite manhattan variation which shines with spicy rye is the modern classic, Greenpoint, made famous by the amazing Michael McIlroy of Milk & Honey.

https://punchdrink.com/recipes/greenpoint/
I forgot this cocktail!! Just made one (well, two) and am loving it. Rittenhouse might not be the best rye for it, but that's our go to.

Thanks for the reminder Yaacov!
Same here. Just made one. Very nice! Also with Rittenhouse.
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#40 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » October 3rd, 2020, 4:29 pm

Most of the cocktails mentioned in this thread are already favorites of mine. The Greenpoint was a new one, so I just tried it - had to sub green Chartreuse for the yellow due to inventory issues, but still very nice.

Any of you who are Negroni and Sazerac fans, try the New Pal and let me know what you think. I posted a link above, but my version is -

1 oz rye
1 oz sweet vermouth
1 oz Campari
1 tsp absinthe
1 heavy dash Peychaud's

Add all of the above to a glass with ice, stir, and strain into the glass of your choice. Add a flamed orange peel if you have it, or a light dash of orange bitters as a nice substitute.

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#41 Post by Mike Maguire » October 4th, 2020, 8:53 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
October 1st, 2020, 10:01 am
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October 1st, 2020, 9:54 am
Sazerac
My favorite cocktail of all.
Agreed!!

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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#42 Post by Brandon R » October 5th, 2020, 9:03 am

I only managed to take a pic of my first run at a Boulevardier. I liked it a lot. My wife didn't and found it a little too bitter. Thanks for all the great recommendations!

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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#43 Post by Brandon R » October 5th, 2020, 9:07 am

On a related note, my father-in-law gave me an older book called Grossman's Guide to Wine, Spirits, and Beers, published in 1964. It's fun to find the classic version of many cocktail recipes. Here was the recommendation for the Sazerac:

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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#44 Post by JDavisRoby » October 5th, 2020, 7:04 pm

Classic 1-2-3 cocktail.

I have a couple old cocktail books. I’ll try and dig them up and post a photo soon
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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#45 Post by William Segui » October 8th, 2020, 1:44 pm

Rye, simple syrup & Blenheim Red Cap. My take on the Husk Kentucky Mule. More of a summer cocktail, but delicious anytime.

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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#46 Post by Peter Metzger » October 8th, 2020, 8:12 pm

Brandon R wrote:
October 5th, 2020, 9:07 am
On a related note, my father-in-law gave me an older book called Grossman's Guide to Wine, Spirits, and Beers, published in 1964. It's fun to find the classic version of many cocktail recipes. Here was the recommendation for the Sazerac:

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Side Car (shown in recipe above) is also a great cocktail, but no rye in it.
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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#47 Post by Troy Stark » October 9th, 2020, 8:04 am

Had this at Icehouse bar in Minneapolis and now make it for myself all the time. They make it with Bourbon but I actually prefer it with Rye

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Fill Tumbler/Pint Glass with Ice
1 shot Rye (or Bourbon)
1 shot Rum (aged = better)
Fill with Ginger Beer (spicier = better)
Splash of bitters

DELICIOUS
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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#48 Post by Brandon R » October 12th, 2020, 9:07 am

I'm going to have to try that, Troy. I've got a bottle of Smith & Cross rum ready to go.
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Re: What's your favorite RYE-centric cocktail?

#49 Post by Kris Patten » November 25th, 2020, 7:47 pm

My favorite mule take was from the boys at Toulouse.

Ice
1 oz. fresh lime juice
3 oz. Bourbon or Rye
Ginger Beer
3-4 good dashes of bitters

Used to go out of my way to stop and say hi on way home and have 1 with a cup of fried chicken gumbo.

As for classics, love Boulevardier.
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