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#751 Post by H. N o w b a r »

My go to used to be Macallan 18 but Been drinking some Oban 14 now that Macallan 18 is twice the price. Still have a few bottles of 18 left though. :)
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Almost polished off this Old Pulteney 12 last night - it was dark and stormy; so had some with a go-to cigar at my front porch.
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Got these just an hour ago. I’ve had (and liked) the Highland Park 18 before; not yet the Aberfeldy 16.
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Last night’s nightcap - as good as ever. My eldest (the only one of my children that likes whisky) likes it a lot.
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Got this inexpensive one as a “burner bottle” (i.e., a bottle that one can drink anytime without giving a thought - I recently learned the term from my eldest son while discussing inexpensive yet decent whiskies). I’d had it before in a bar stopping off after dinner with a lot of wine; so didn’t remember much of it. It’s pleasant enough albeit rather simple. At it price, it’s good enough for casual drinking with a cigar.
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I've been enjoying the Bruichladdich "Classic Laddie" of late.

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LMD Ermitaño wrote: August 25th, 2020, 8:17 pm Last night’s nightcap - as good as ever. My eldest (the only one of my children that likes whisky) likes it a lot.

I've always loved the Highland Park 18. The Oban 14 is a heck of a burner bottle. [cheers.gif]
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H. N o w b a r wrote: September 16th, 2020, 6:42 pm
LMD Ermitaño wrote: August 25th, 2020, 8:17 pm Last night’s nightcap - as good as ever. My eldest (the only one of my children that likes whisky) likes it a lot.

I've always loved the Highland Park 18. The Oban 14 is a heck of a burner bottle. [cheers.gif]
Yup, the Highland 18 is a house favourite. Definitely the Oban 14 is a good anytime whisky. I looked up its price in the US; and it's apparently a bit cheaper here in Manila at just under $75/bottle.
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#759 Post by Michael S. Monie »

I'd like to thank you LMD for introducing me to Aberlour A'bunadh. It's become one of my favorites and judging from how it disappears off of the shelves, must be very popular.
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Michael S. Monie wrote: September 17th, 2020, 6:51 am I'd like to thank you LMD for introducing me to Aberlour A'bunadh. It's become one of my favorites and judging from how it disappears off of the shelves, must be very popular.
Happy to know you got to enjoy something I posted about! Absolutely my pleasure.

I recall the first time I got to try the Aberlour A'bunadh: Some years ago, after a long wine-filled dinner hosted by a friend from New Zealand (who was presenting his family's range of wines), one of our friends, Alex, opened a bottle of the AA - which none of us at the dinner had ever tried. The 4 of us who partook finished off the bottle rather quickly because it tasted so good. I was pretty hit by then; so went home. I found out the next day that the 3 went to Alex's house to drink even more. Alex told me the other 2 took one more glass of whisky and passed out. One of the other guys, an Italian (from Tuscany) chef-restaurateur, told me that when he woke up the next day, he had a Scottish accent.
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LMD Ermitaño wrote: September 17th, 2020, 12:21 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote: September 17th, 2020, 6:51 am I'd like to thank you LMD for introducing me to Aberlour A'bunadh. It's become one of my favorites and judging from how it disappears off of the shelves, must be very popular.
Happy to know you got to enjoy something I posted about! Absolutely my pleasure.

I recall the first time I got to try the Aberlour A'bunadh: Some years ago, after a long wine-filled dinner hosted by a friend from New Zealand (who was presenting his family's range of wines), one of our friends, Alex, opened a bottle of the AA - which none of us at the dinner had ever tried. The 4 of us who partook finished off the bottle rather quickly because it tasted so good. I was pretty hit by then; so went home. I found out the next day that the 3 went to Alex's house to drink even more. Alex told me the other 2 took one more glass of whisky and passed out. One of the other guys, an Italian (from Tuscany) chef-restaurateur, told me that when he woke up the next day, he had a Scottish accent.
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LMD Ermitaño wrote: September 17th, 2020, 6:08 am
H. N o w b a r wrote: September 16th, 2020, 6:42 pm
LMD Ermitaño wrote: August 25th, 2020, 8:17 pm Last night’s nightcap - as good as ever. My eldest (the only one of my children that likes whisky) likes it a lot.

I've always loved the Highland Park 18. The Oban 14 is a heck of a burner bottle. [cheers.gif]
Yup, the Highland 18 is a house favourite. Definitely the Oban 14 is a good anytime whisky. I looked up its price in the US; and it's apparently a bit cheaper here in Manila at just under $75/bottle.
I love Oban 14 as my go-to whisky as well - seems to be a crowd pleaser when having company even for the non-whisky drinkers. My local Costco used to have it for $55-$60, particularly around holidays. I think now it is close to that $70-$75 price point that you mention at local liquor stores but still a bottle I'll always have around the house. Cheers!
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Benny P wrote: September 17th, 2020, 2:23 pm
LMD Ermitaño wrote: September 17th, 2020, 6:08 am
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I've always loved the Highland Park 18. The Oban 14 is a heck of a burner bottle. [cheers.gif]
Yup, the Highland 18 is a house favourite. Definitely the Oban 14 is a good anytime whisky. I looked up its price in the US; and it's apparently a bit cheaper here in Manila at just under $75/bottle.
I love Oban 14 as my go-to whisky as well - seems to be a crowd pleaser when having company even for the non-whisky drinkers. My local Costco used to have it for $55-$60, particularly around holidays. I think now it is close to that $70-$75 price point that you mention at local liquor stores but still a bottle I'll always have around the house. Cheers!
Those are great prices. Total Wine in Washington State sells it for $92. That's around $114 after tax. I think it was around $85 out the door in Oregon.
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H. N o w b a r wrote: September 17th, 2020, 4:25 pm
Benny P wrote: September 17th, 2020, 2:23 pm
LMD Ermitaño wrote: September 17th, 2020, 6:08 am
Yup, the Highland 18 is a house favourite. Definitely the Oban 14 is a good anytime whisky. I looked up its price in the US; and it's apparently a bit cheaper here in Manila at just under $75/bottle.
I love Oban 14 as my go-to whisky as well - seems to be a crowd pleaser when having company even for the non-whisky drinkers. My local Costco used to have it for $55-$60, particularly around holidays. I think now it is close to that $70-$75 price point that you mention at local liquor stores but still a bottle I'll always have around the house. Cheers!
Those are great prices. Total Wine in Washington State sells it for $92. That's around $114 after tax. I think it was around $85 out the door in Oregon.

Oh wow, it's crazy how different the prices are at Total Wines. I actually picked one up two weeks ago at the Total Wine in Pasadena, CA and it was 69.99 here. I only went because I had to use a $15 coupon before it expired so was able to get it down to $55 before taxes so about $60 with taxes.
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#765 Post by Barry L i p t o n »

My Total WIne coupons are for only wines I don't want. I've been hoping for one on spirits because some of the things they direct import, such as Laubade Armagnac, are clearly a better portfolio from me to choose from (for my tastes) than their direct import wine.

I also recently picked up an Oban 14 at Costco as I thought it was a great whiskey to serve folks who aren't always drinking the high end stuff and I enjoyed it enough over a friends house. Been a long time fan of d'Abunadh. Guess I like sherry as I'm a very big fan of the Macallan 18s that are in sherry casks (but I think that marks me as a plebian in this crowd).

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I'm trying to find a distributor that will ship spirits across state lines, to have a few bottles on hand for Christmas. Any suggestions? My local, in-state liquor stores to not carry what I'm looking for. Bunnahabhain 18 Year and/or 24 Year, Bruichladdich Black Art are a couple that I'm looking for.
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I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.

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Edward H. Earles wrote: November 19th, 2020, 4:17 pm I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.
Which do you consider the regular Highland Park bottling?
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#769 Post by Mike Grammer »

Oban 14, especially the doublewood always dependable. I just finished off my bottle of Octomore and only have a Bunnahabhain 12 in the cabinet for Islay so went and got another standby, Caol Ila 12 which is very solid, if not special. Smoke, but not too much. At some point---it may be quite some time because of COVID---I have a bottle of 24 year Clynelish heading this way. Crossing my fingers for Christmastime (it would migrate with my best friend if she is able to fly in for the holidays).
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Michael_H wrote: November 20th, 2020, 12:09 pm
Edward H. Earles wrote: November 19th, 2020, 4:17 pm I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.
Which do you consider the regular Highland Park bottling?
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I tried out a bottle of Macallan 15 Triple Cask (I know, I know; but my eldest son generally likes Macallan, so I make sure to keep at least 1 bottle of it at home). I gave it the “rule of thumb breathing for a minute per year aged”; but it showed a bit too thin and uninteresting until after 30-40 minutes. Not bad then.
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#772 Post by M.Kaplan »

Just finished the last dram of this Caperdonich, leftover from Ardbeggeddon XXI, held earlier this year. Caperdonich ages beautifully.
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Edward H. Earles wrote: November 19th, 2020, 4:17 pm I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.
It's an island, not an Islay. It's made way up north in Orkney. If you were expecting something like Lagavulin, or Laphroaig, or Ardbeg, I'll wager you were sorely disappointed. I've been enjoying the 18, which is a lovely and silky smooth scotch with nice toffee and pie spice, hint of orange peel. That and a Glenrothes 18, which has such a nice big spicy fruitcake note with a hint of nuts. Perfect for the season.

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K John Joseph wrote: December 7th, 2020, 2:32 pm
Edward H. Earles wrote: November 19th, 2020, 4:17 pm I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.
It's an island, not an Islay. It's made way up north in Orkney. If you were expecting something like Lagavulin, or Laphroaig, or Ardbeg, I'll wager you were sorely disappointed.
Duhh....I know that. What made you think I thought Highland Park was an Islay? My remark about comparison was because I drink mostly Islays.......

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Edward H. Earles wrote: December 7th, 2020, 5:08 pm
K John Joseph wrote: December 7th, 2020, 2:32 pm
Edward H. Earles wrote: November 19th, 2020, 4:17 pm I bought a bottle of the regular Highland Park bottling a few days ago. I hadn't had one in years, and wanted to compare it to others using my current palate. It was good enough, but seemed shallow in comparison to most Islays. It probably will be the last bottle of that Scotch that I buy.
It's an island, not an Islay. It's made way up north in Orkney. If you were expecting something like Lagavulin, or Laphroaig, or Ardbeg, I'll wager you were sorely disappointed.
Duhh....I know that. What made you think I thought Highland Park was an Islay? My remark about comparison was because I drink mostly Islays.......
Misinterpretation of your statement "shallow in comparison to most Islays".
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#776 Post by Jeff G. in OC »

After being on a mostly Irish kick for a bit, the interesting Scotches I've had lately are Alexander Murray bottlings of:

1999 Fettercairn 18y
1994 Glen Keith 21y
1995 Benrinnes 23y
1994 Braes of Glenlivet 21y

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#777 Post by Jeff G. in OC »

Forgot to mention, I avoided Scotch and other whiskeys for much of my adult life. It had something to do with a bottle of nasty Cutty Sark at university and over imbibing. I didn't drink Scotch (or any other whiskey) again until I was 38ish. The turning point was a friend's Scotch and cigar party. A bunch of people brought interesting, good stuff and they insisted that I try them. They enlightened me that Cutty Sark doesn't count. Once I tried good whiskey, I changed my policy immediately.

I've had some catching up to do. I only drink neat. If I don't like it enough to sip it neat, I don't buy it again...and that bottle is saved for guests who have no taste.
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#778 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m »

Welcome to the forum, Jeff. Glad you gave Scotch another shot. I like to drink my whisky neat, as well.*

*with a couple/few drops of water added.


Try adding a couple to a few drops of water to your whisky. It can really work wonders. Do not use ice cubes. I usually use a small spoon or a straw.
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#779 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum »

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: December 9th, 2020, 6:08 pm Welcome to the forum, Jeff. Glad you gave Scotch another shot. I like to drink my whisky neat, as well.*

*with a couple/few drops of water added.


Try adding a couple to a few drops of water to your whisky. It can really work wonders. Do not use ice cubes. I usually use a small spoon or a straw.
I agree with Brian about a few drops of water improving many single malts, but would add the caveat that occasionally it can do the exact opposite. All our in-progress bottles get a small sticker put on the back saying whether we've enjoyed it more with a few drops or without.
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That's a really good idea, Sarah. Stealing. :)
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#781 Post by K John Joseph »

Anyone had Talisker 18 and, if so, how is it? Worth the tariff?
Glendronach Allardice 18? Any good?
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K John Joseph wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:36 pmGlendronach Allardice 18? Any good?
It’s one of which I’ve made sure to always have a bottle at home since I tried it.
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Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:26 pm That's a really good idea, Sarah. Stealing. :)
Please do!
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#784 Post by K John Joseph »

LMD Ermitaño wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:53 pm
K John Joseph wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:36 pmGlendronach Allardice 18? Any good?
It’s one of which I’ve made sure to always have a bottle at home since I tried it.
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#785 Post by Michae1 P0wers »

So, the past few years I have enjoyed Aberlour 12 and 16, but grabbed a bottle of the latter this year and was disappointed. Then I read that they dropped the proof to 80 and the general consensus is that new bottles are sorely lacking. Anyone have good suggestions for a sherry finished alternative? I suppose I can stick to the A'bunadh, but that's a bit more of a heater than I'm looking for on a given night.

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#786 Post by Michael S. Monie »

Caol Ila 17 yr unpeated. Surprisingly smokey but quite delicious.
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#787 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m »

Michae1 P0wers wrote: December 12th, 2020, 8:21 am So, the past few years I have enjoyed Aberlour 12 and 16, but grabbed a bottle of the latter this year and was disappointed. Then I read that they dropped the proof to 80 and the general consensus is that new bottles are sorely lacking. Anyone have good suggestions for a sherry finished alternative? I suppose I can stick to the A'bunadh, but that's a bit more of a heater than I'm looking for on a given night.
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#788 Post by Matt Latuchie »

Been enjoying the Springbank lineup but haven't tried the Local Barley bottling yet. Curious about others opinions about it.
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#789 Post by Sanjay Nandurkar »

K John Joseph wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:36 pm Anyone had Talisker 18 and, if so, how is it? Worth the tariff?
Glendronach Allardice 18? Any good?
I love the 18 Talisker. Finished two bottles this year and a couple last year.

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#790 Post by David H. »

LMD Ermitaño wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:53 pm
K John Joseph wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:36 pmGlendronach Allardice 18? Any good?
It’s one of which I’ve made sure to always have a bottle at home since I tried it.
Especially if you can get a 2019 or earlier bottling. Check the bottling codes.
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#791 Post by David H. »

Recently popped a Compass Box 20th anniversary Hedonism. It was explained to me that with a few drops of water it would be like "creme brule" and should serve as a dessert drink. I've been disappointed on both occasions I've had this now, especially since I'm a massive Compass Box/John Glaser fan. It comes off overly dry, almost overly tannic, tastes of Rye whiskey, dill pickle, and lots of alcohol heat.

Current plan is to let this bottle oxidize a bit now that it's been opened.

Anyone else have experience with this bottle?
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#792 Post by JulianD »

K John Joseph wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:36 pm Anyone had Talisker 18 and, if so, how is it? Worth the tariff?
It's good, but it's much softer than the 10 (if you like the in-your-face-peat, you might like the 10 better)
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#793 Post by D@vid R0sewater »

Ok, I’m way late to scotch but such is life...just like I was 10 years too late to wine. Tell me anything I should know about a couple things I picked up because they seemed worth trying and got decent write ups - only way to know is to try:

Glenglassaugh 30 year old

Classic Cask Strathmill 25 year old

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#794 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum »

D@vid R0sewater wrote: December 19th, 2020, 5:05 pm Ok, I’m way late to scotch but such is life...just like I was 10 years too late to wine. Tell me anything I should know about a couple things I picked up because they seemed worth trying and got decent write ups - only way to know is to try:

Glenglassaugh 30 year old

Classic Cask Strathmill 25 year old
Hi David - Welcome to the whisky world! It's never too late.

I haven't had either of those, so I'm not much of a help with the actual question. I'm sure they are worth trying - I've enjoyed some old Strathmills very much. My general advice, though, is to taste more in the 12 to 18 year range as you learn. Though some spirits can take more age very well, and some are particularly known for it (like Dalmore, for instance) not all can, and you often end up with something a bit dried out and with too much wood influence. Also lower alcohol. Older is not necessarily better! Many scotch lovers find their sweet spot around 12 to 21, even a little younger. I'd also recommend looking for some cask strength releases. Taste widely in terms of geography, as there is a ton of variation. My personal advice is stick to more classic bourbon or sherry cask treatment as you start out, rather than getting too into the fancy port/wine/sauterne etc. finishes. There are some good ones, but too often it's just a sexy selling point for an inferior spirit.

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#795 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m »

Sarah offers great advice, as she always does.

Two comments, in particular, I want to emphasize of hers:
1. cask strength bottlings. I strongly recommend focusing on them, if not buying them (almost) exclusively.
2. older does not necessarily equal better. One of my favorite whiskies is a cask strength 10 yo. --- quite frankly, it might be my favorite.


As to the two whiskies you asked about, David: I've had neither. Please post about them when you give them a taste!
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#796 Post by Rodrigo B »

+1 on Sarah and Brian's note on seeking out cask strength bottling.

The only caveat being to pace yourself, cask strength can at times get overwhelming, especially if you're new to it. Cask strength, like dry aged beef, can definitely produce more concentrated and intense flavours and aromas in whisky, but at times it can also overwhelm, especially if one is not accustomed to the higher ABV. So do take you time with it, add a few drops of water as needed and spend a bit of time with it.
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#797 Post by Al Osterheld »

I wouldn't buy cask strength bottlings at this point. I'd read up on the different areas and buy some of the mainline bottlings of respected producers from each area to get an idea of what you like, then go from there.

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#798 Post by D@vid R0sewater »

Thanks for all the comments - I do have a some experience, so I tend more toward the Speyside/Highlands (less peaty) types (not really a lot of experience with Lowlands distilleries) rather than the Islay peatier expressions, but on a rare occasion find myself looking for a real peat influence (usually turning to something like the basic Laphroig 10 or Lagavulin 16 or even an Oban 14).

its very tempting to grab older examples given that my guess is that anything over 21 years is shortly to be monetarily out of reach of mere mortals given that they are already pretty expensive, but I hear you that they are not necessarily better. What would you choose as your favorite distillery (choosing based on the 21 year or less range) in the Speyside mold (whether or not actually from Speyside)?

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#799 Post by Rodrigo B »

I'm a huge fan of Glenfarclas. Still a family owned distillery, which is rare to see these days in Scotland. It's definitely in the richer sherried style Speyside is known for, and a times I wish they'd offer some of their standard bottlings at slightly higher ABVs, but I love them all the same. The 17 continues to be my favorite of their standard lineup. I'd also recommend seeking out some independent bottlings from them as those tend to be cask strength.
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#800 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum »

D@vid R0sewater wrote: December 21st, 2020, 9:05 am Thanks for all the comments - I do have a some experience, so I tend more toward the Speyside/Highlands (less peaty) types (not really a lot of experience with Lowlands distilleries) rather than the Islay peatier expressions, but on a rare occasion find myself looking for a real peat influence (usually turning to something like the basic Laphroig 10 or Lagavulin 16 or even an Oban 14).

its very tempting to grab older examples given that my guess is that anything over 21 years is shortly to be monetarily out of reach of mere mortals given that they are already pretty expensive, but I hear you that they are not necessarily better. What would you choose as your favorite distillery (choosing based on the 21 year or less range) in the Speyside mold (whether or not actually from Speyside)?
David - I really like the Clynelish 14 for something accessible and delicious. It is Highlands, and does have some peat, though not as much as most Islay malts you have probably had, and of a more heathery style. It is very clean, distinctive and friendly, easy to drink, not too much of anything. We don't drink a lot of non-cask strength at home, but this is one I can happily order in a bar and know I'll get something I can enjoy.
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