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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#451 Post by Jason Hagen » February 17th, 2020, 3:13 pm

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Look what showed up today.😀

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Nice. I heard the Filthy Hooligan was about to make an appearance. Is the Shamrock new?

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#452 Post by Jason Hagen » February 17th, 2020, 3:17 pm

I still have never tried a Villager but just realized I have a La Meridian in my humi that a friend gave me.

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#453 Post by Randy Bowman » February 17th, 2020, 3:29 pm

Alec Bradley Black Market Filthy Hooligan

Started off a little uneven on the burn. There are core flavors of nuts, earth, leather and pepper. Ash had to be coaxed off after the first third. The wrappers seem to be providing nuances of roasted meat, grass, coffee, bell pepper and some cream. The burn is even going into the second third. The cream is now part of the core flavors and nuts are the dominant flavor in the core. The draw is easy and the smoke thick. A bit of coffee on the retrohale. The ash had to be coaxed off again at the end of the second third. The nuances grass and roasted meat are lingering some and the finish is light white pepper. Chasing flavors as cigar winds down. Coffee up front, hints of grass then roasted meat fading to white pepper. Fun cigar.
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#454 Post by Jason Hagen » February 17th, 2020, 5:15 pm

Pappy Van Winkle Family Reserve Barrel Fermented Robusto
Unwrapping this from the cellophane was like walking into a will stock humidor. Even outside the aromas were so strong. The cap was intensely strong as well but that went away. I found this cigar a bit one dimensional. Enjoyable but for something as bold as this, there are better. The draw was good but the burn was mediocre. Wood, leather mixed with honey. Like a bourbon. I enjoyed the cigar but the burn issues made it a bit of a pain. Regardless, I wouldn’t turn one down but I wouldn’t buy unless it was a great price. 110 minute smoke. = B

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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#455 Post by Randy Bowman » February 17th, 2020, 8:40 pm

Jason Hagen wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 3:13 pm
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Look what showed up today.😀

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Nice. I heard the Filthy Hooligan was about to make an appearance. Is the Shamrock new?

Jason
I think this is the second or third year of the Shamrock. They'll probably come up with a fourth wrapper version. I enjoyed the Villiger so much I decided to add it to the inventory. If nobody else likes it, more for me. We do that with wine too. [thumbs-up.gif]
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#456 Post by Randy Bowman » February 18th, 2020, 3:10 pm

Alec Bradley Black Market Filthy Hooligan Shamrock

Rich tobacco flavors on the cold draw. The cigar starts with rich tobacco, leather and light white pepper. It is medium on the mild side with a smooth, easy draw and little bite on the tongue. There are hints of coffee and a spice. The spice alters between nutmeg and cinnamon. Just like the Filthy Hooligan the ash on the Shamrock was solid and had to coaxed off at the start of the second third. At about the half way mark I got my first hint of grass from the Candela wrapper which is much smaller than the other two. There is some nuttiness now and the coffee and spices continue to alternate in position and strength. Going into the final third, the white pepper has reappeared at the finish. Coffee is dominant followed by leather, fleeting spices and the pepper. Not as complex as I expected but enjoyable to the end.
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#457 Post by Jason Hagen » February 18th, 2020, 11:01 pm

Randy, thanks for the notes and pics on the Filthy Hooligans.

Cohiba Red Dot Churchill $5.50
I recently had the Robusto, pretty much fresh off the truck and it was very good. This one got a couple more weeks in the humi, and I loved smoking the Churchill. It did smoke fairly fast, at 90 minutes and it was awesome. A non-cloying sweetness that I didn’t find in the Robusto. Right to the end as other flavors developed there was this candy sweetness that balanced very well. Creamy and nutty. Very little spice. The draw did seize up at one point but I hit it with the Perfect Draw and it turned into a smokestack. I loved it. I might smoke another tomorrow! = A

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#458 Post by Randy Bowman » February 19th, 2020, 2:57 pm

God of Fire Sencillo Black Robusto

The cigar is made by Placensia for GOF and has a beautiful reddish brown wrapper. Starts out with cedar and pepper for a half inch. The cedar backs off and coffee moves to the forefront. As the pepper softens and moves to the finish, notes of dark chocolate and mild spices join in the mid palate. The ash separates right at the end of the first third. Some nuttiness appears after ashing and the dark chocolate has some sweetness. The coffee fades to earthy leather notes. The retrohale was nose hair removing red pepper that doesn't appear anywhere else. Won't try that again. Going into the final third, the cigar remains medium in strength. Coffee has returned with some nuttiness, leather and dark chocolate to the finish. Stays consistent to the end. A lot going on in this mellow smoking cigar.
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#459 Post by Jason Hagen » February 19th, 2020, 8:03 pm

Comfortably Numb by Espinosa Vol. 1 Toro - $3.14
Nice mild flavors. Lots of burn issues. I had to relight a few times. The draw lacked a bit of tension. Nice flavors and if it weren’t for the burn and draw issues, it would be a very nice easy smoke. I will wait a while before having another. 115 minute smoke. = B-

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#460 Post by Randy Bowman » February 20th, 2020, 3:19 pm

Arturo Fuente Magnum R Rosado Gran Reserva

Started out with wood and black pepper and settled down after a quarter inch to reveal leather, coffee bean and some nuttiness. The wood is gone. The pepper persists and the water I'm drinking is taming it some. The burn is uneven and I had to touch it up twice. Half way through, the cigar gets mellow with the addition of some caramel like sweetness. The pepper remains on the finish and the water is keeping it in check. As it winds down there are hints of sweet chocolate. A little too much pepper for me, but everything else is quite enjoyable.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#461 Post by Jason Hagen » February 20th, 2020, 6:04 pm

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Thanks for the note. Sounds pretty good to me.

Montecristo Platinum Toro $3.74
Elements of greatness but major knockdown for the burn which was uneven and went out a few times. The flavors were very good. Full-flavored cigar. A nice richness along with dried dark fruits and chocolate. = B

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#462 Post by Jason Hagen » February 20th, 2020, 6:43 pm

Where did everybody go?!? grouphug

Alec Bradley Black Market Vandal Toro $3.95
I said I was going to wait to have my next Vandal but I just wanted to re-visit. This stick looks great, smokes great, and burns perfect. Full throttle and rich. Dark flavors. Every hit completely fills your mouth with full-bodied power. Not an everyday cigar for me but when the time is right, it hits the spot. The last time I had this cigar it lasted about 85 minutes but this time it went for 115 minutes. The ash held on nice and sturdy. = A

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#463 Post by Randy Bowman » February 21st, 2020, 7:47 pm

Toasty warm here today and with little spare time I enjoyed a A. J. Fernandez Geniales Maduro on the patio with a bottle of water. A former New Yorker joined me with his Oliva G Torpedo, so I didn't get deep in tasting notes and photos. Great smokes and good conversation. The Geniales is only 4.5 X 48 but hard as a rock and slow burning. It burnt my fingers about 50 minutes after lighting it. Overall experience: I smoked an iced Mocha and loved it.
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#464 Post by Jason Hagen » February 21st, 2020, 9:46 pm

ROOM 101 THE FARCE CONNECTICUT ROBUSTO @$3.05
A terrific cigar. Such a nice smoke. The draw and burn are perfect. Mellow mild/medium smoke. Nothing harsh or distracting. Taste is uncomplicated but very pleasant. = A

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#465 Post by Jason Hagen » February 21st, 2020, 9:54 pm

Southern Draw 300 Manos Habano PIRAMIDES @$5.00
This cigar gets some plus points because it smokes and burns very well. Woody and somewhat simple. At the start, it was more like a great cigarette. It then started to develop but I was missing some cream and fruit. Wood and leather were the dominant features. But it was an enjoyable medium smoke but not my favorite Southern Draw. I’ll let my other one rest. = B

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#466 Post by Phil Smith » February 22nd, 2020, 1:49 pm

Padron 50th anniversary natural. I don’t smoke much during the winter in Chicago, but today is a welcome 50°. I also prefer the maduros of the same release, but this is a fantastic cigar if a bit on the pricey side.
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#467 Post by Randy Bowman » February 22nd, 2020, 3:44 pm

My friend who does pen turning sent me her first one featuring a cigar band. Their business is 00Turners and will probably appear on Etsy first.
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#468 Post by Randy Bowman » February 22nd, 2020, 4:10 pm

My Father Flor de las Antillas Robusto

Little brother of 2012 cigar of year. Kitchen spice and leather on the cold draw. Starts out with leather, nutmeg and cream. Nice even burn and draw. The ash is firm and remained attached for the first third of the cigar. Some sweetness joins in with some cedar notes at the start of the second third and after ashing. White pepper also becomes noticeable on the finish. The flavors intensify entering the final third led by creamy leather, cedar, sweet cinnamon and mild white pepper on finish. The flavors blend nicely together for the finale. Excellent cigar.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#469 Post by Jason Hagen » February 22nd, 2020, 6:19 pm

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Padron 50th anniversary natural. I don’t smoke much during the winter in Chicago, but today is a welcome 50°. I also prefer the maduros of the same release, but this is a fantastic cigar if a bit on the pricey side.
Nice. And you probably had to break out the sun tan lotion [wow.gif] I don't own many Pradrons ($$$) but I love them and guard them.

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#470 Post by Jason Hagen » February 22nd, 2020, 6:21 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 3:44 pm
My friend who does pen turning sent me her first one featuring a cigar band. Their business is 00Turners and will probably appear on Etsy first.

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Nice. This would be a great place to see these pens http://huckleberryspen.com/index.html

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#471 Post by Jason Hagen » February 22nd, 2020, 7:10 pm

Oliva Serie V Melanio Robusto - @$4.85
Very easy draw. Close to being too easy. A very full cigar. Dark chocolate and coffee. Rich and smooth for the most part but at times it was harsh. Right now, it is a blast of power. Smokes pretty fast. = A-

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#472 Post by Randy Bowman » February 22nd, 2020, 7:19 pm

Wow $4.85 is almost half the wholesale cost in CA. You can buy three at your price cheaper than one at keystone pricing in CA. [swearing.gif]
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#473 Post by Jason Hagen » February 23rd, 2020, 1:23 pm

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Wow $4.85 is almost half the wholesale cost in CA. You can buy three at your price cheaper than one at keystone pricing in CA. [swearing.gif]
That is a bummer. That siad I did get these off cigar bid. Normally those cigars do not go that cheap but I got in the right auction. And that price includes shipping and taxes.

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#474 Post by Phil Smith » February 23rd, 2020, 1:52 pm

Another nice day in Chicago. I’m the Byron, my wife grabbed the Opus. The former comes across as Cuban in texture and character... just a perfectly constructed cigar.
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#475 Post by Randy Bowman » February 23rd, 2020, 4:16 pm

My Father Connecticut Robusto

The foot smells of rich tobacco and the dry draw is earth and tobacco. Starts out nutty with pepper on the finish. Draw is tight. After a half inch, the earthy tobacco flavors appear with some cedar notes. Ash dropped at three quarters of inch. After the ash dropped there was some sweetness with the cedar notes. The cigar remained pretty much the same with occasional hints of coffee, walnuts and nutmeg.
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#476 Post by Jason Hagen » February 23rd, 2020, 6:15 pm

Phil Smith wrote:
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Another nice day in Chicago. I’m the Byron, my wife grabbed the Opus. The former comes across as Cuban in texture and character... just a perfectly constructed cigar.
I've never heard of Byron. Interesting. Looks like they are on the pricey side for me but I'll watch for a 1 off or a sale.

Crowned Heads Jericho Hill 44S. Corona - @$5.63
Very different than the Toro. Not such a smack in your face but a real treat. More medium and subtle. Cocao and nuts. Finish of graham cracker pie crust. On occasion, the draw on Crowned Heads cigar is a little hard. I did have to use Perfect Draw twice on this one but the draw continued to have a lot of tension although not bothersome. Another terrific Crowned Heads cigar. = A-

Graycliff G2 PG Robusto - @$2.85
At first this cigar bored me. Super mild with very little flavor and a bitter finish. It was getting cold outside so I let it go out and stuck it in my little cedar box. I finished it this morning and it had transformed on the second half. Still mild but showing some richness and easy going flavors. The draw was a little too easy for me but it still produced a lot of smoke. I’ll give my others some more time in the humi. = B

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#477 Post by Jason Hagen » February 23rd, 2020, 9:33 pm

Caldwell Dos Firmas Rothschild Robusto @ $4.21
This was a pain in the ass to smoke. Hard to get let and went out multiple times. Fairly boring flavors. Nothing off or tasteless, just simple. Pales in comparison to less expensive sticks. = C+

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#478 Post by Randy Bowman » February 24th, 2020, 5:10 pm

AVO Heritage Robusto

Rich tobacco on the cold draw. Lighting it, I was assailed by bitter burnt wood and hot black pepper. I was thinking it was too much cigar me until it got past a quarter inch. The burnt wood settled to sweet cedar and the pepper subsided to a light white pepper on the finish. The ash is solid and the draw excellent. Earthy tobacco moves to the forefront and notes of cashews, coffee and citrus intermingle through the second third. Leather joins in and there are notes of cream softening the overall power of the cigar that started out full throttle to a smooth medium. As it winds down some kitchen spices appear in place of the cedar.
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#479 Post by Randy Bowman » February 25th, 2020, 3:08 pm

Aging Room Quattro F55N Nicaragua Robusto

Great looking cigar. The foot smells like tea and the cold draw tastes like spiced tea. Starts out with cedar and white pepper and settles in quickly to black tea, roasted nuts and hints of dark chocolate. The ash is solid and I coaxed it off as I reached the second third. The flavors are rich with the addition of leather and caramel. The tea fades out leaving leather, roasted nuts and bitter sweet dark chocolate, finishing with a flash of white pepper as I near the end of the second third. Some interesting spices come and go as the cigar nears the end. Excellent.
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#480 Post by Randy Bowman » February 26th, 2020, 2:50 pm

Opus X Forbidden Lost City Robusto

Revisiting the 2017, it starts out woody with some white pepper and stays that way until I ashed. A couple more puffs and it turns to a mellow cedar with a little sweetness, leather and mild white pepper at the finish. The ash was solid and the burn is straight but kinda fast. In the second third there are some tea notes alternating with coffee notes. Some earthiness joins the flavor profile as it approaches the end. The cigar was definitely more mellow and complex than my last one. Construction was flawless.
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#481 Post by Randy Bowman » February 27th, 2020, 2:22 pm

Liga Privada T52

Sitting outside in the shade and it's a good thing. This cigar puts out more smoke just sitting than most cigars do after heavy puffing. The foot smelled like manure and the cold draw was sweet cedar. Sweet cedar and chocolate dominate the first third. The draw is too easy and the first third went by too quickly. I'm resting the cigar for longer periods so it doesn't get too hot. The ash is loose and falls off every half inch. The second third features a woody flavor, maybe oak, some leather, earth, chocolate and kitchen spices. Black pepper on the retrohale only. The flavors start shifting order and prominence about the half way mark. The final third was dominated by chocolate. Sweet cedar returns and white pepper on the finish. About medium to medium plus it should be a chocolate lover's delight.
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#482 Post by Rick.T » February 27th, 2020, 8:53 pm

It’s nice to see a active cigar thread on WB. I’ve been on a hiatus for the past 3 years(?) but Im back. I treat my cigars like wine and have a decent collection. I mainly smoke Cubans but I’d never turn down a chance to smoke something I haven’t tried.
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#483 Post by Randy Bowman » February 28th, 2020, 2:35 pm

Montecristo Monte Robusto by A. J. Fernandez

Beautiful looking box pressed cigar. The foot has a unique aroma that belies the actual flavors of the cigar. I asked Carrie to smell it a tell me what it smelled like. She hit it, "Dog sh!t." Starts out with earth, cocoa, a hint of leather and red pepper. The pepper moved quickly to finish, changing to light white pepper. The ash is solid and I coaxed it off after the picture below. Some notes of cinnamon or nutmeg danced through the second third with some sweet citrus. The final third is earthy with kitchen spices, leather and white pepper. The cocoa has faded away and the sweet citrus flashes before the white pepper finale. The burn was slow and straight with a very good draw. Kudos A. J.
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#484 Post by Randy Bowman » February 29th, 2020, 3:31 pm

Macanudo Inspirado Black Robusto

Never been a fan of Macanudo because they were too light and one dimensional. Time to try the Inspirado line. Very dark, almost black wrapper that looks oily. Some coffee aroma on the foot and the cold draw echoes with coffee and nuts. The cigar starts out with coffee, cocoa, cedar and sweet berry. The finish is black pepper. The ash is solid through the first third and burn is even. The draw was a little tight a first but is perfect at the half way mark. The coffee is dominant now. Had to put the cigar down for about 45 minutes. On the relight, I got some red pepper. When the cigar settled back in the cocoa and sweet berry are gone. Cedar is now dominant, coffee is light and kitchen spices lead the black pepper finish. The final third was earthy. The cedar faded and some coffee notes along with kitchen spices continue to the end. Not real complex but the relight probably changed up the profile.
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#485 Post by Randy Bowman » March 5th, 2020, 2:33 pm

Herrera Esteli Brazilian Maduro Toro by Drew Estates

The foot smells like tea and the dry draw is tea and rich tobacco. Starts out with tea, kitchen spices, tobacco and fades out to a coffee finish. The flavors are smooth and the smoke mild. About an inch into the cigar the binder/filler burned while the wrapper didn't. The wrapper spread and curled outward like petals on a flower. See pic. I touched it up and it burned clean til the end. The tea slowly gets replaced by sweet cedar and cocoa followed by spices and the finish remains coffee. No pepper anywhere keeping the cigar mild and smooth.
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#486 Post by Randy Bowman » March 5th, 2020, 2:52 pm

Aging Room Quattro Original Vibroto

Nice dark box pressed toro. Foot and dry draw are mocha. This is supposed to be a stronger cigar but it smoked as a smooth and tasty medium. Coffee and roasted nuts highlighted the first third with notes of sweet berries, dark chocolate and a finish of mild white pepper. Coffee and sweet cedar dominated the second third with some kitchen spices replacing the berries. The final third added some leather, a splash of citrus and the white pepper finish got stronger and longer. A lot going on in this cigar.
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#487 Post by Phil Smith » March 6th, 2020, 10:21 am

Escaped to Miami beach for the weekend. 2010 Fonseca no4 regional Benelux (NL) gifted by a friend. Mild-medium, mature, woodsy. Good stuff
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#488 Post by Randy Bowman » March 6th, 2020, 2:28 pm

Arturo Fuente Hemingway Work of Art Maduro

Oily looking wrapper. Rich tobacco and cocoa notes on the foot and dry draw. I think the shape of the cigar plays in the changing flavors and their intensity. Started out with sweet cedar and cocoa, finishing with very light white pepper. The cedar turned into roasted nuts and the cocoa has become mocha. Hints of berries, coconut and sweet spice come into play. The burn is straight and the ash solid. The final third is sweet cedar and cocoa again, some citrus notes, spices with a tea like finish. I smoked it a little fast chasing the changing flavors. Great cigar.
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#489 Post by Randy Bowman » March 7th, 2020, 2:25 pm

Montecristo White Series Robusto

This cigar was on the floor of the humidor where somebody dropped and left it. There's a three quarter inch crack/split in the wrapper from the foot up. A little cigar goo and it smoked just fine. The cigar is creamy and mild with some earthiness as it starts out. Some sweet cedar joins in along with almond like nuttiness. Going past the middle, the cigar seems a little stronger, medium at most. Hints of honey, ginger and citrus add to the complexity. The finish is very mild pepper. The ash comes off easy so keep an ashtray close or in your lap. The perfect morning smoke if your tee time is early and it burns slow.
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#490 Post by Randy Bowman » March 8th, 2020, 2:55 pm

Casa Cuba Doble Cinco

A Fuente specialty cigar. Cedar on the foot and cold draw. Once it settles after lighting it is smooth and mild with earthiness, cedar, lighter spices and unmistakable saltiness. Good draw, slow even burn and solid ash. Midway through, the cigar is creamy with a sweet streak, first with the cedar, then with one of the multiple spices that come and go. Cinnamon, nutmeg and ginger are the spices I detect. The saltiness has moved to the finish.
The final third is pretty much the same except the flavors are more intense with a citrus note before the now light white pepper finish. Still lighter than medium with lots of flavor.
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#491 Post by Randy Bowman » March 9th, 2020, 2:48 pm

Ashton Heritage Puro Sol Robusto

Another cigar with a split in the wrapper at the foot. Cigar goo and it was good to go. Earthy tobacco on the foot and cold draw. Starts out earthy with kitchen spices and touch of leather on the finish. Excellent draw and burn with a light ash. Some nuttiness builds through the first third with an occasional hint of chocolate. The second third is creamy smooth with the addition of sweet caramel coursing through the spices leading into a mild white pepper finish. The cigar has increased to medium, even medium plus as the final third begins. The nuttiness and spices are more intense and the finish has a fleeting citrus note. Excellent.
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#492 Post by Jud Reis » March 9th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Randy - what is cigar goo?

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#493 Post by Randy Bowman » March 9th, 2020, 6:52 pm

It's a kind of glue used to repair cigars. I used to carry one called Cigar Goo a long time ago and it's easier to remember than El Ligador Repair Kit.
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#494 Post by Randy Bowman » March 10th, 2020, 2:17 pm

Opus X Toro

The cigar is from a 2018 Holiday Collection. Tea and leather aroma on the foot. Pepper on the cold draw. Leather and nuts upon lighting the cigar, followed by black tea and a light white pepper finish. Real uneven burn and two touch ups did not correct it. Kitchen spices develop through the first third and the burn has self corrected by the start of the second third. Creamy leather is now followed by baking spices then ground coffee beans, finishing with mild white pepper. I catch some sweetness between the spices and coffee bean. At the halfway mark, the spices include cinnamon, nutmeg and pepper. There are hints of powdered cocoa, dark berries, citrus and sweet cedar. Chock full of flavors to the end. Wow.
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#495 Post by Randy Bowman » March 11th, 2020, 2:34 pm

Herrera Esteli Norteno Toro

Barnyard, (near the rear of the horse), aroma on the foot. Cold draw is earthy tobacco. Settles in with earthiness, some black pepper and cedar. The ash is light and loose. The retrohale is barnyard. The black pepper fades and cedar is more prominent and has some sweetness. Starting the second third it is earthy tobacco followed by nuttiness that has replaced the cedar, then sweet berries and a mild white pepper finish. Halfway and now there are hints of coffee and cocoa added. The cigar has gained strength to medium plus. The final third is full bodied yet creamy with mocha, all spice and black pepper. This is a flavor packed beauty.
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#496 Post by Randy Bowman » March 11th, 2020, 2:55 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
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Herrera Esteli Norteno Toro

Barnyard, (near the rear of the horse), aroma on the foot. Cold draw is earthy tobacco. Settles in with earthiness, some black pepper and cedar. The ash is light and loose. The retrohale is barnyard. The black pepper fades and cedar is more prominent and has some sweetness. Starting the second third it is earthy tobacco followed by nuttiness that has replaced the cedar, then sweet berries and a mild white pepper finish. Halfway and now there are hints of coffee and cocoa added. The cigar has gained strength to medium plus. The final third is full bodied yet creamy with mocha, all spice and black pepper. The aromatics are fresh hay and dark chocolate. This is a flavor packed beauty.

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#497 Post by GregP » March 11th, 2020, 3:37 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 2:34 pm
Herrera Esteli Norteno Toro

Barnyard, (near the rear of the horse), aroma on the foot. Cold draw is earthy tobacco. Settles in with earthiness, some black pepper and cedar. The ash is light and loose. The retrohale is barnyard. The black pepper fades and cedar is more prominent and has some sweetness. Starting the second third it is earthy tobacco followed by nuttiness that has replaced the cedar, then sweet berries and a mild white pepper finish. Halfway and now there are hints of coffee and cocoa added. The cigar has gained strength to medium plus. The final third is full bodied yet creamy with mocha, all spice and black pepper. This is a flavor packed beauty.

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Randy, would be great to know when a particular cigar has been purchased, especially for brands that have changed hands. Padron, Fuente, etc, are fine, but something like Drew Estate anything I find that even prior to brand sale their initial offerings changed after a run of good reviews. Liga Privada, when they showed up were incredible, after 3 years blends have changed, and not for the better (and no, I don't think its just vintage variance, blends certainly taste different to me through a number of vintages now). I really liked Nortenos when they first showed up, and now seeing your TN I am curious to know if its older stock or a recent one.
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#498 Post by Randy Bowman » March 11th, 2020, 8:08 pm

Greg, I usually list age on those I've had for awhile. Otherwise, I'm doing tasting notes on cigars I sell at the store, usually new placements. I'm trying to build personal knowledge about everything in the walk in humidor. Funny thing is that since I started posting tasting notes, every cigar is an event instead of a casual pleasure like it used to be. It has also made me revisit a lot of wines I drink as an "old favorite," plus pushed me into new wine pairings for different foods. I never believed off dry or sweet Riesling would go with spicy Asian food until we finally tried it. Now I'm almost a foodie but haven't made the leap yet.
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#499 Post by GregP » March 11th, 2020, 8:56 pm

A few years ago a cousin asked me what to drink with spicy Asian food and when I told him "Buy German Riesling, or some off dry or even on a sweet side" he looked at me like I am nuts. Then, about a year later, and after I convinced him to buy some Huet (off dry) we went out to eat and he brought a bottle after asking me if he should. He had this eye opening look as he took a sip along with a bit of food. Sold on the spot :-)

Asian food and off dry/RS wines is a magic combo.
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#500 Post by Randy Bowman » March 12th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Oliva V Liga Especial Double Robusto

I sell a box a week and it is a top 25 cigar, so I was looking forward to finally smoke one. Light barnyard aroma on the foot. Not much of anything on the cold draw. At halfway through the cigar I had only tasted pepper and some coffee plus I drank a half bottle of water. Dead tastebuds. Carrie came into the lounge and said she could barely smell any aroma, so maybe lunch did us in. The only alternative is the cigar is corked. The burn is slow and even and the ash solid. In the final third I get some barnyard on the retrohale. Some nuttiness and vanilla are detectable now. I will have to revisit this cigar.
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