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Re: Japanese Whiskey

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Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
Absolutely in the US. It has also become difficult to know what’s actually Japanese. There’s lots of Scotch and Canadian being bottled and sold as “Japanese” to catch that wave. At least Hibiki is actually distilled there, and the component distilleries each have very interesting character of their own.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

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Man I love that stuff
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Craig G wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:38 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
Absolutely in the US. It has also become difficult to know what’s actually Japanese. There’s lots of Scotch and Canadian being bottled and sold as “Japanese” to catch that wave. At least Hibiki is actually distilled there, and the component distilleries each have very interesting character of their own.
I recommend this chart (and blog overall) to help decipher what is real Japanese whiskey, vs. barrel aged Shochu or blended world whiskey:
https://www.nomunication.jp/2018/07/06/ ... l-or-fake/

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Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a reply...

What would folks recommend in Scotch that best scratches the Japanese Whiskey itch? especially that best resembles Yamazaki?

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Re: Japanese Whiskey

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Clayton Wai-Poi wrote: April 12th, 2022, 3:25 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a reply...

What would folks recommend in Scotch that best scratches the Japanese Whiskey itch? especially that best resembles Yamazaki?
What, for you, defines "Japanese whisky"? Your answer to this question may prove helpful in answering your question.
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

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Clayton Wai-Poi wrote: April 12th, 2022, 3:25 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a reply...

What would folks recommend in Scotch that best scratches the Japanese Whiskey itch? especially that best resembles Yamazaki?
Interesting article here on this topic:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemicalle ... c2d1795d4b
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Re: Japanese Whiskey

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Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
Hibiki Blender's Choice are available at K&L again. $379.99 each with a limit of 3 per customer. Seems a little pricey.
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sal_i wrote: July 19th, 2022, 6:43 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
Hibiki Blender's Choice are available at K&L again. $379.99 each with a limit of 3 per customer. Seems a little pricey.
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Clayton Wai-Poi wrote: April 12th, 2022, 3:25 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: September 13th, 2021, 12:20 pm
Craig G wrote: September 12th, 2021, 10:21 pm Has anyone had Hibiki Blender’s Choice? This is the ~15 year NAS that more or less replaced the 17, but isn’t generally available in the US. It’s around $100 in Japan, $350 in the US to the extent it’s here. K&L has had a few recently and they sold quickly.
I have *not*, but I will say this about Japanese whiskey, in general: it's often quite good, but, over the past 5 to 8 years, it has become overpriced relative to it's Scottish counterparts.
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a reply...

What would folks recommend in Scotch that best scratches the Japanese Whiskey itch? especially that best resembles Yamazaki?
There is a table comparing various Japanese whiskies to Scotch on the following Reddit link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/whiskey/commen ... se_whisky/
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Had Nikka's "From The Barrel" today for the first time. I like.
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Michael S. Monie wrote: August 5th, 2022, 2:42 pm Had Nikka's "From The Barrel" today for the first time. I like.
This used to be the ultimate stupid great value in Japan. It was around $16 for 500 ml when I was there in 2016. With the way spirits prices have gone lately, it's maybe a decent buy again in the US, depending on if you buy from someone who gouges on anything Japanese or not. Definitely a malt that appeals to a wide audience with a bit of a bourbon bent, but I wouldn't recommend stretching far above $80/750 to try it.
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Michael S. Monie wrote: August 5th, 2022, 2:42 pm Had Nikka's "From The Barrel" today for the first time. I like.
Same here - first time to try it Friday night (Philippines time). I can’t remember much; but, I did drink a respectable amount of it, which is a good sign.
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Noel, I don't know if you have had Nikka's "Yoichi' but I like it a lot also. It's a NAS but very Scotch-like at a decent price.
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Michael S. Monie wrote: August 6th, 2022, 6:25 pm Noel, I don't know if you have had Nikka's "Yoichi' but I like it a lot also. It's a NAS but very Scotch-like at a decent price.
Hi, Michael. Yes, I recall having had that as well. From my notes (from the tail end of a Tokyo work trip in October 2018).
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The “Peaty & Salty” reminded me of an Islay, but for its Irish whisky-esque vanilla & crème brûlée finish…
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…while the “Woody & Vanillic” brought to mind a lighter-footed Speyside.

These, among others, were had after a wine/saké paired kaiseki dinner at a friend’s restaurant (Oshino Yashima, located at 4667 Uchino, Oshino-mura, Minamitsuru-gun 401-0512, Yamanashi Prefecture). I hadn’t seen said friend, Hiro-san, in quite a while; so, we got pretty plastered - such that they had to call a driver/car service to get us back to the house. Thus, my vague recollection of the whiskies must be suspect at best.
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