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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#501 Post by Randy Bowman » March 13th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Revisiting the Oliva V. Barnyard on the foot and powdered cocoa on the cold draw. Started out with pepper and coffee notes again. After smoking a third of it, I'm getting some nuttiness and cocoa. The room note of the smoke is cocoa and the Iwater I'm drinking tastes like chocolate. At two thirds, there is vanilla and all spice notes. The flavors are smooth and fairly light. The cigar is smoking about medium, so my tastebuds are probably still lacking.
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#502 Post by Jesse Koehn » March 14th, 2020, 3:13 pm

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#503 Post by Jesse Koehn » March 14th, 2020, 3:13 pm

And a Viaje Super Shot 10 gauge

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#504 Post by Jason Hagen » March 17th, 2020, 9:54 pm

Hey all! I'm back. I enjoyed catching up on what is being smoked.

Southern Draw Kudzu Robusto
Another excellent smoke from Southern Draw. Easy to smoke with great richness. Not too complex but downright tasty. Happy to have more in the humi. Sweet spice and chocolate. Nice finish. = A

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#505 Post by Jason Hagen » March 18th, 2020, 6:35 pm

On lockdown but have these on deck.
AVE MARIA IMMACULATA TORO, GUARDIAN OF THE FARM CAMPEON, CROWNED HEADS LUMINOSA TORO, PADRON 1964 ANNIVERSARY CORONA, CROWNED HEADS J.D. HOWARD RESERVE HR48, EP CARRILLO NEW WAVE CONNECTICUT DIVINOS

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#506 Post by Randy Bowman » March 18th, 2020, 7:09 pm

Nice looking assortment. That Kudzu looks like it would be in my wheelhouse.
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#507 Post by Phil Smith » March 18th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Still too cold here but the self-isolation is a positive pressure to get outside and smoke. I ordered a couple of boxes of small cigars (Padron Corticos, Fuente Hemingway Short Story) to pass the time just in case the weather doesn't cooperate.

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#508 Post by Randy Bowman » March 18th, 2020, 7:22 pm

Wish I could ship you better weather. We are finally having some rain.
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#509 Post by Phil Smith » March 18th, 2020, 7:34 pm

Thanks Randy... the sentiment is appreciated either way.

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#510 Post by Jason Hagen » March 19th, 2020, 2:00 pm

Going out during breaks in the rain.

Alec Bradley Black Market Esteli Robusto 5X52
Not sure if this is just AB inconsistency or the Robusto just doesn't hold up to the Torpedo but this cigar was just okay. Some pleasant flavors but the draw was pretty tough even after hitting it with the Perfect Draw. = C+

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#511 Post by Jason Hagen » March 19th, 2020, 5:01 pm

Ave Maria Immaculata Toro $3.20 Purchased Feb. 2020

Right when I sat down it started raining ..booo. But it cleared quickly. Still tough to believe this cigar is made by AJ. A very nice mild cigar. Easy smoking. Dry flavors of wood, nuts and about halfway through some white pepper comes in. Not a head turner but a great mellow cigar. 80 minute smoke.

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#512 Post by Randy Bowman » March 19th, 2020, 8:12 pm

Jason, you had problems with the AB Esteli robusto being nothing like the torpedo and I don't have the answer but maybe a thought. For me, the Oliva V Torpedo was killer, yet the robusto was questionable, twice and the draw was a little tough. Doubt it is different tobacco, but possibly who rolled it in your case and maybe mine. I Cuban cut the torpedo, twisting and turning it to hit all the taste buds with a perfect burn. Couldn't coax the flavors from the robustos no matter what I tried and they didn't seem to have the same flavor profile either. I blamed my taste buds, but maybe we were victimized by the "apprentice" roller.
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#513 Post by Jason Hagen » March 19th, 2020, 10:12 pm

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Jason, you had problems with the AB Esteli robusto being nothing like the torpedo and I don't have the answer but maybe a thought. For me, the Oliva V Torpedo was killer, yet the robusto was questionable, twice and the draw was a little tough. Doubt it is different tobacco, but possibly who rolled it in your case and maybe mine. I Cuban cut the torpedo, twisting and turning it to hit all the taste buds with a perfect burn. Couldn't coax the flavors from the robustos no matter what I tried and they didn't seem to have the same flavor profile either. I blamed my taste buds, but maybe we were victimized by the "apprentice" roller.
Thanks for the insight. I'll try another Robusto in a few weeks. Thankfully I still have more of the Torpedos.

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#514 Post by Jason Hagen » March 20th, 2020, 6:49 pm

The first day on full California quarantine so I sat outside and did some recovery reading.

Guardian of the Farm Campeon by Warped $5.99
What a terrific cigar which is always expected from Warped. Upon lighting the aromas were fantastic. Rich medium/full cigar. Chocolate Latte, nuts and a bit of earthiness. With the final third of the cigar, the flavors got a little more muddled and white pepper became a distinct flavor. Perfect draw and burn. 110 minute smoke. = A+

Crowned Heads J.D. Howard Reserve HR48 $5.15
Round 2 for today. A great 45 minute smoke. Medium profile but still packs some power and is an easy smoke. Spicy with a bit of sweet chocolate and leather. Smoked to the nub for sure. = A

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#515 Post by Randy Bowman » March 21st, 2020, 3:02 pm

Hunkered down in the cigar lounge with a My Father La Opulencia and a bottle of water. Both are excellent.
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#516 Post by Jason Hagen » March 21st, 2020, 5:34 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 3:02 pm
Hunkered down in the cigar lounge with a My Father La Opulencia and a bottle of water. Both are excellent.
Nice. I have wanted to smoke one of those.

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#517 Post by Randy Bowman » March 21st, 2020, 7:43 pm

Jason Hagen wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 5:34 pm
Randy Bowman wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 3:02 pm
Hunkered down in the cigar lounge with a My Father La Opulencia and a bottle of water. Both are excellent.
Nice. I have wanted to smoke one of those.

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Good luck getting that water lit. neener
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#518 Post by Jud Reis » March 22nd, 2020, 5:58 am

Had a lovely H Upmann Banker Toro yesterday walking the beach with friends - amazing how cigar smoke helps enforce social distancing! Crisp sunny day was lovely to have a smoke and a conversation in the midst of all this craziness.

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#519 Post by Jason Hagen » March 22nd, 2020, 5:05 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 7:43 pm
Jason Hagen wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 5:34 pm
Randy Bowman wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 3:02 pm
Hunkered down in the cigar lounge with a My Father La Opulencia and a bottle of water. Both are excellent.
Nice. I have wanted to smoke one of those.

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Good luck getting that water lit. neener
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#520 Post by Jason Hagen » March 22nd, 2020, 5:05 pm

Jud Reis wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 5:58 am
Had a lovely H Upmann Banker Toro yesterday walking the beach with friends - amazing how cigar smoke helps enforce social distancing! Crisp sunny day was lovely to have a smoke and a conversation in the midst of all this craziness.
Sounds perfect.

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#521 Post by Jason Hagen » March 23rd, 2020, 10:34 pm

EP Carrillo New Wave Connecticut Divinos
$2.85 - Very enjoyable. On the mild side with a touch of kick. Toasty and earthy but not overly dry flavors. Great morning smoke when you have the time. There were tiny sections where the draw was a bit vacant but with a few strong puffs is was back to a mouthful. = B+

Romeo y Julieta 1875 Bully
A decent smoke. Somewhat simple and boring. Around 2/3s it was more intriguing but still nothing special. = C+

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#522 Post by Randy Bowman » March 24th, 2020, 5:27 pm

Nat Sherman Timeless Supreme Robusto

Tea aromas/flavors on the foot/cold draw. Mild and creamy with ever changing flavors including cedar, roasted nuts, tea, earth, coffee bean, cocoa, berries and light spices. Palate pleaser end to end.
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#523 Post by Randy Bowman » March 25th, 2020, 2:54 pm

Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro Robusto

A Maduro lover's delight. Lots of coffee and chocolate that appear in various forms like espresso, coffee bean, bittersweet and milk chocolate as well as in combination, mocha. White pepper on the finish. Occasional hints of cream, sweet berries and earth.
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#524 Post by Mike Maguire » March 25th, 2020, 4:09 pm

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March 25th, 2020, 2:54 pm
Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro Robusto

A Maduro lover's delight. Lots of coffee and chocolate that appear in various forms like espresso, coffee bean, bittersweet and milk chocolate as well as in combination, mocha. White pepper on the finish. Occasional hints of cream, sweet berries and earth.
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#525 Post by Randy Bowman » March 25th, 2020, 7:49 pm

Mike Maguire wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 4:09 pm
Randy Bowman wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 2:54 pm
Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro Robusto

A Maduro lover's delight. Lots of coffee and chocolate that appear in various forms like espresso, coffee bean, bittersweet and milk chocolate as well as in combination, mocha. White pepper on the finish. Occasional hints of cream, sweet berries and earth.
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#526 Post by Randy Bowman » March 26th, 2020, 2:36 pm

A. Fuente 858 Claro

Looking at the green wrapper I'm thinking it will taste like grass or bell pepper. Can't detect much on the foot or cold draw. The cigar is mild and creamy. Sweet cedar is the dominant flavor with occasional nuttiness and a fleeting hint of mint on the finish. Swishing water over my tongue produces a sweet light mint flavor that lingers to the next draw on the cigar. Two thirds of the way through, the sweetness is waning, with mild spices appearing. Impeccable construction, burn and draw. Not complex but an interesting departure from my usual choice in cigars.
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#527 Post by Jason Hagen » March 27th, 2020, 1:55 pm

Sounds fun. I have never had one of them green wrappers. Can't decide if I find them attractive or ugly.

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#528 Post by Jason Hagen » March 27th, 2020, 2:05 pm

Montecristo Platinum Toro
The last time I had this cigar it was pretty much fresh off the truck and the burn was uneven and jacked up. With a little rest in the humi this has straightened out. The draw is still a bit tough but I hit it with The Perfect Draw and it was fine. Nice bold full-bodied flavors. Unsweet cherry, espresso, and some leather. A small amount of spice. In your face but not very rich. = B

Kristoff San Andres Robusto
A bouncing baby bruiser. Lot's of flavor. Cinnamon, hot chocolate and leather. All a bit disjointed right now but an attention getter. It was a bit hotter than I prefer. The draw was a bit uneven. Sometimes great, sometimes hard. It will be a while before I smoke another. = B+

Alec Bradley Black Market Vandal the Con Toro
I had one of these about 5 weeks ago and it was just a bit of a pain to smoke. This was better but there were still problems with the burn. Nice mild cigar. Flavors a pretty dry with a touch of cream. = B-

Southern Draw Firethorn Toro
I really like Southern Draw. After a few months in the humi this is really coming together. I am hoping the balance increases. There are flavors of espresso and chocolate which are accompanied by green chili at the front and red chili in the mid palate. The green chili brings some acidity and the red chili brings richness. About have way through the smoke I did some popsicle stick. Not great. But that passed. Very enjoyable, somewhat easy smoking med/full cigar. = A-

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#529 Post by Randy Bowman » March 27th, 2020, 2:53 pm

Fuente Don Carlos Personal Reserve Robusto
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Rich tobacco notes on the foot and cold draw. Starts out with cedar and black pepper. There is a citrus component that is building between the cedar and black pepper as it nears the second third. At half way the cedar is fading and being replaced by notes of earth and mild kitchen spices. The citrus component is gone by the start of the final third, replaced by caramel, leaving some sweetness on the finish. All the flavors intensify as I reach the end of the cigar. Stellar.
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#530 Post by Jason Hagen » March 28th, 2020, 10:13 am

Nice. One of my all-time favorites. But I don't have those fancy Corona gloves. Thanks for the note.

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#532 Post by Jason Hagen » March 28th, 2020, 2:28 pm

Macanudo Icon Robusto
A nice satisfying smoke. The only drawback was as the flavors became more intense and complex, the cigar also got hot. Creamy and woodsy. = B+

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#533 Post by Randy Bowman » March 28th, 2020, 2:46 pm

Padron Damaso #8 Corona

Been in the humidor for at least three years. Leather on the foot. Rich tobacco on the cold draw. Starts out with sweet cedar, leather on the mid and black pepper finish. Ash is a little loose and drops easily. The second third is sweet cream, mild spices, leather and the black pepper finish. The cigar has gained strength to medium for the final third. Some cedar notes have returned and the spices have intensified. The burn is perfectly even end to end. Tasty and mild.
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#534 Post by Randy Bowman » March 29th, 2020, 3:09 pm

God of Fire 10th Anniversario 5.5 x 60 Figurado

Smooth best describes this cigar. Rich yet creamy. Leather, almonds, earth, baking spices and mild pepper are core flavors. A hint of cocoa here and there. Sweet caramel also comes and goes adding to the complexity of the cigar. A little red pepper appears on the finish at the end of the cigar. Awesome.
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#535 Post by Jason Hagen » March 29th, 2020, 7:34 pm

Comfortably Numb Vol. 2 By Espinosa
I enjoyed this much more than Vol. 1. Full flavor but not overpowering. Meaty and peppery with some dark chocolate. = A-
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#536 Post by Randy Bowman » March 30th, 2020, 2:43 pm

Oliva V Melanio Robusto

I remember this cigar as full bodied with a pepper edge but today it is medium and smooth. Leather with some woodiness and light on the pepper. Occasional notes of toast and caramel. Midway through, a fleeting citrus note appears on the finish. Winding down, toast is more prominent, citrus gone and caramel provides sweetness on the finish. Even better than I remember.
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#537 Post by GregP » March 30th, 2020, 4:21 pm

Randy, and Jason. Been watching a number of reviews in the past 3 weeks, and some of them do not make sense to me o cigars I know really well. Oliva V, to my palate, is only rivaled by Davidoff Winston Churchill and Yamasa. And yet... My boxes are all from stock of 2-4 years ago and deliver great flavors, no exceptions. So, curious to know when yours were acquired, just want to understand if the issues are with recent releases, or not. If there is a way to post approximate date of cigars when you post reviews that would really help (same as wine vintage, I guess). I have had sub-par experience with recent releases of a number of once great lines that now taste crappy. Not really a surprise when labels change hands and production numbers increase dramatically to capitalize on name recognition. And greed, I guess.

Oliva is different, still private and still same AFAIK. Tasted Oliva V Melanio next to Oilva V a good number of times and always prefer the V. And now curious what gives with the above reviews. Not critical, just trying to understand if I should keep on buying at this point, or look for something else. Still have 4 boxes of Vs, and will now ration them, or rather, research well before re-stocking.

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#538 Post by Jason Hagen » March 30th, 2020, 6:10 pm

Diesel Whiskey Row Robusto
I am generally a Diesel fan but this .... hmmm. The cigar did smoke fine and the construction was solid. Flavors start off with nothing exciting. It showed wood and some elements of Bourbon but lacked any elements of sweetness that the new oak brings to Bourbon. One dimensional. Later there was some dark chocolate but still no complexity. I have a few others but I will be in no hurry to smoke them. Maybe time will bring them together. = D

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#539 Post by Randy Bowman » March 30th, 2020, 6:35 pm

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March 30th, 2020, 4:21 pm
Randy, and Jason. Been watching a number of reviews in the past 3 weeks, and some of them do not make sense to me o cigars I know really well. Oliva V, to my palate, is only rivaled by Davidoff Winston Churchill and Yamasa. And yet... My boxes are all from stock of 2-4 years ago and deliver great flavors, no exceptions. So, curious to know when yours were acquired, just want to understand if the issues are with recent releases, or not. If there is a way to post approximate date of cigars when you post reviews that would really help (same as wine vintage, I guess). I have had sub-par experience with recent releases of a number of once great lines that now taste crappy. Not really a surprise when labels change hands and production numbers increase dramatically to capitalize on name recognition. And greed, I guess.

Oliva is different, still private and still same AFAIK. Tasted Oliva V Melanio next to Oilva V a good number of times and always prefer the V. And now curious what gives with the above reviews. Not critical, just trying to understand if I should keep on buying at this point, or look for something else. Still have 4 boxes of Vs, and will now ration them, or rather, research well before re-stocking.

TIA.

Greg,

In 2016, Oliva Cigar Co. was acquired by J. Cortez Cigars N.V., a Belgian tobacco company that wanted a premium cigar operation in its portfolio.

Most of the cigars I post on have been in the store's humidor between 30 minutes and three months. Cigars that are real popular sell faster and I'm continually ordering them. There are a number of cigars that languish, either because they are too expensive or not getting ratings. The older ones I always try to estimate how long I've had them. Right now I have three different Fuente Anejos that have been in the humidor for three to five years.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#540 Post by GregP » March 30th, 2020, 11:26 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
March 30th, 2020, 6:35 pm
Greg,

In 2016, Oliva Cigar Co. was acquired by J. Cortez Cigars N.V., a Belgian tobacco company that wanted a premium cigar operation in its portfolio.

Most of the cigars I post on have been in the store's humidor between 30 minutes and three months. Cigars that are real popular sell faster and I'm continually ordering them. There are a number of cigars that languish, either because they are too expensive or not getting ratings. The older ones I always try to estimate how long I've had them. Right now I have three different Fuente Anejos that have been in the humidor for three to five years.
Randy, thanks for the info. Looks like still "family owned" and run, same factory, same tobacco fields. And yet, sounds like Cortez may have requested a bump in production numbers and that may have altered a few things. Need to buy a few lose Vs and smoke them next to my stash to see what's different. I know that Liga Privada was a great marketing bait and switch, and there are others. What made them make a splash, originally, was then replaced by a huge bump in production and definitely different tobacco (same as buying fruit from a 4 acre vineyard vineyard in Napa and them switching to one that 100 cares, just different animals). Hoping that Oilvas did not follow the script, and judging by your take on Melanio I really cannot explain your experience with the V.

Every time I seem to find a few great sticks and load up I eventually see them go bad, for whatever reason. Shame. But learned to buy, big, once I come across a good cigar.

Find it funny that Fuente Anejos are not selling, they used to be the hottest thing around not that far back. Have no idea what the attraction of the new wave cigar market is, who wants to buy a limited release cigar in full knowledge you can never buy more? That is if you can even find some. And, TBH, I find way too many of them simply overblown marketing crap, expensive and made from subpar tobacco.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#541 Post by GregP » March 30th, 2020, 11:41 pm

Jason Hagen wrote:
March 30th, 2020, 6:10 pm
Diesel Whiskey Row Robusto
I am generally a Diesel fan but this .... hmmm. The cigar did smoke fine and the construction was solid. Flavors start off with nothing exciting. It showed wood and some elements of Bourbon but lacked any elements of sweetness that the new oak brings to Bourbon. One dimensional. Later there was some dark chocolate but still no complexity. I have a few others but I will be in no hurry to smoke them. Maybe time will bring them together. = D

Jason
Funny, you just pretty much described every Diesel cigar I have smoked, starting with when they showed up and people were raving about them :-) Never understood the attraction.

I have yet to come across one Diesel cigar that is not a simple wood and black pepper notes with no other redeeming flavors. You get a hint of something or other, here and there, but just that, a hint, quickly disappearing, with wood and pepper still taking center stage, overwhelmingly. No nuance, no change in flavors. With usually a harsh finish, to boot. Pretty much any other cigar I light up right after tastes like a big step up. And I did light up one right after, almost every time, just to "calibrate" my palate to see if it is the Diesel cigar and not my palate at fault.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#542 Post by Randy Bowman » March 31st, 2020, 3:07 pm

God of Fire by Carlito Double Robusto 2015

This cigar has been in the humidor for about one year. Uneven burn at first solved with a little touch up. Pepper drives this stick. Not overpowering but always there. First there were tea notes. They were joined by leather and sweet cedar. Caramel replaced the cedar about mid cigar along with some earthiness. Carrie said the room note is milk chocolate or something that reminds her of the old malted milk balls we ate as children. I don't detect either on the cigar. Various kitchen spices come and go the entire cigar. Pretty complex.
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Re: What Cigar or Pipe Are You Smoking?

#543 Post by Randy Bowman » April 1st, 2020, 2:29 pm

CAO Flathead V554 Camshaft

The cigar has been in our humidor for about five years. Good looking dark brown oily wrapper. Barnyard funk on the foot and some faint chocolate on the cold draw. Starts out with cocoa, some earthiness and white pepper on the finish. Wonderful draw with lots of smoke. Solid ash. Some leather notes and sweet caramel join in by the halfway point. As the cigar winds down, some spice notes, most notably cinnamon, appear just before the the light white pepper finish. Not real complex but very tasty.
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