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Re: The Bourbon Thread

#3401 Post by ERPark » September 28th, 2019, 5:29 pm

Made my first ever “dusties” score, and boy was it a doozy. Still sifting through everything, but bottle dates are from mid 70s to late 90s. Concentrated mostly in late 70s to early 80s, so tax stamps galore!

Got a fair amount of multiples, so will be posting some in Commerce Corner soon to share with folks here.

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#3402 Post by ERPark » October 5th, 2019, 10:07 pm

Enjoying these tonight.......


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#3403 Post by BLittle » October 7th, 2019, 1:32 pm

the Total Wine here had the Michter's 10 Year Bourbon for $109. Sold out on Sat. YMMV
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#3404 Post by Tyler F. » October 9th, 2019, 5:31 pm

Tried a few newer releases. EHT Amaranth and Weller CYPB. Both were served by the glass (1.5oz each) and while I'd probably buy a bottle at retail, neither was close to their price of admission from a secondary pricing perspective. Just not nearly interesting enough.
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#3405 Post by Ryan Kilkenney » October 9th, 2019, 6:38 pm

I agree re Weller CYPB. Even the Special Reserve is starting to fetch inflated prices. The market is way overheated.

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#3406 Post by Tyler F. » October 9th, 2019, 8:31 pm

Ryan Kilkenney wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 6:38 pm
I agree re Weller CYPB. Even the Special Reserve is starting to fetch inflated prices. The market is way overheated.
New releases continually fetch ridiculous money for unproven whiskey. Sadly, the market has been overheated for at least the last 5 years. Hoping we see prices come down in the next 5 years as production catches up to demand. It would be great to reverse the 'allocated' trend for everything not truly allocated.
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#3407 Post by Michae1 P0wers » October 10th, 2019, 11:35 am

ERPark wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 10:07 pm
Enjoying these tonight.......



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Gene, how are you finding these old bottles show?

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#3408 Post by ERPark » October 10th, 2019, 1:16 pm

Michae1 P0wers wrote:
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Gene, how are you finding these old bottles show?
Confirmation bias aside, I think they’re showing really well. I’ve had experiences with dusties previously, and always found them to be fascinating in how they’re typically smoother and more “straightforward” in how they present themselves. Not saying in any way that they lack complexity. I think the best way to frame it is that there’s a “purity” in these that you don’t find as much nowadays.

Bear in mind none of these are higher proof bottlings
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#3409 Post by Kris Patten » October 12th, 2019, 9:37 am

Ryan Kilkenney wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 6:38 pm
I agree re Weller CYPB. Even the Special Reserve is starting to fetch inflated prices. The market is way overheated.
Crazy, we sell these for $35 and $25 respectively so definitely retail taking people to the hoop.
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#3410 Post by Ryan Kilkenney » October 12th, 2019, 10:08 am

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October 12th, 2019, 9:37 am
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I agree re Weller CYPB. Even the Special Reserve is starting to fetch inflated prices. The market is way overheated.
Crazy, we sell these for $35 and $25 respectively so definitely retail taking people to the hoop.
I've paid pretty big premiums for my favorite bourbons (George T. Stagg, Four Roses LE). And other favorites are now more than I'm willing to spend (Pappy 20, Eagle Rare 17, William Larue). On principle, though, I'm not paying any premium -- much less 4x -- for Special Reserve just because it says "Weller" on the label.

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#3411 Post by Kris Patten » October 12th, 2019, 10:20 am

Ryan Kilkenney wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 10:08 am
Kris Patten wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 9:37 am
Ryan Kilkenney wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 6:38 pm
I agree re Weller CYPB. Even the Special Reserve is starting to fetch inflated prices. The market is way overheated.
Crazy, we sell these for $35 and $25 respectively so definitely retail taking people to the hoop.
I've paid pretty big premiums for my favorite bourbons (George T. Stagg, Four Roses LE). And other favorites are now more than I'm willing to spend (Pappy 20, Eagle Rare 17, William Larue). On principle, though, I'm not paying any premium -- much less 4x -- for Special Reserve just because it says "Weller" on the label.

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Stagg is about $90, same with ER17 and Pappy 20.
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#3412 Post by Ryan Kilkenney » October 12th, 2019, 10:51 am

Kris Patten wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 10:20 am
Ryan Kilkenney wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 10:08 am
Kris Patten wrote:
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Crazy, we sell these for $35 and $25 respectively so definitely retail taking people to the hoop.
I've paid pretty big premiums for my favorite bourbons (George T. Stagg, Four Roses LE). And other favorites are now more than I'm willing to spend (Pappy 20, Eagle Rare 17, William Larue). On principle, though, I'm not paying any premium -- much less 4x -- for Special Reserve just because it says "Weller" on the label.

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Stagg is about $90, same with ER17 and Pappy 20.
If I found those at retail for those prices I'd think it was a prank. Last I checked the secondary market, Stagg - $400-50; ER17 - $800; Pappy 20 - $2K? 3K? My local liquor store got wise a couple years ago and started charging these prices for their meagre allocations.

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#3413 Post by Andrew Kotowski » October 12th, 2019, 3:52 pm

I believe he’s referring to $90... per shot.
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#3414 Post by Kris Patten » October 14th, 2019, 6:46 pm

Been busy with life, so neglecting Nick Gangas and his stores selection of Whisky in IL....

New Whistlepig Boss Hog is set to be released aged in Umeshu barrels.

New Parker's Heritage is inbound ,first Rye in the Parker's lineup of releases, 105 proof, 8 years old.

Kamiki released a long aged "Maltage" Japanese Whisky aged in Japanese cedar casks.
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#3415 Post by Nick Gangas » October 17th, 2019, 12:44 pm

thanks Kris.

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#3416 Post by Adam Noble » October 17th, 2019, 2:56 pm

In one of the sketchiest neighborhoods around Seattle in the liquor store next to the pot shop, I saw a bottle each of:

Pappy 15 - $2000
Stagg - $600
Old Fitzgerald 9 - $600

Needless to say, hard pass.

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#3417 Post by Kris Patten » October 18th, 2019, 7:02 pm

Adam Noble wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 2:56 pm
In one of the sketchiest neighborhoods around Seattle in the liquor store next to the pot shop, I saw a bottle each of:

Pappy 15 - $2000
Stagg - $600
Old Fitzgerald 9 - $600

Needless to say, hard pass.
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#3418 Post by ERPark » October 19th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Killed some dusties recently. Looking forward to trying out some new ones tonight!

L to R bottle dates - 1979, 1983, 1981

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#3419 Post by Edward H. Earles » October 30th, 2019, 11:34 am

Local Headline:

It’s official. There are two barrels of bourbon for every person living in Kentucky

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (WKYT) - Kentucky’s bourbon industry set two records for the modern era last year by filling more than 2.1 million barrels of bourbon and aging 9.1 million barrels total.

The Kentucky Distillers’ Association says it’s the highest inventory in the 52 years they’ve kept records. It’s also the first and only time since 1967 that distillers have filled more than 2 million barrels of bourbon.

Kentucky now boasts two barrels of bourbon and aging spirits for every person living in the Commonwealth. The last census estimates the state’s population as 4.5 million.

“This is a historic day that cements Kentucky’s rightful title as the one, true and authentic home for Bourbon and distilled spirits,” KDA President Eric Gregory said. “It’s also further proof of Kentucky Bourbon’s monumental economic impact and ever-increasing demand.”

Kentucky’s bourbon industry generates $8.6 billion for the economy and creates more than 20,100 jobs, according to the Kentucky Distillers’ Association.

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#3420 Post by Kris Patten » November 8th, 2019, 1:58 pm

New Old Fitz release will be a 15 year old.
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#3421 Post by Kris Patten » November 9th, 2019, 9:36 am

Oh yeah, Larceny Barrel Proof coming Q1 2020, so there will be a barrel proof wheater on market targeted around $40.
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#3422 Post by Kris Patten » November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm

Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
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#3423 Post by Nick Gangas » November 12th, 2019, 8:22 am

Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
Thanks Kris !

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#3424 Post by Robert M yers » November 14th, 2019, 5:31 pm

Crazy how Elmer just dried up around here. Used to be my go to cheap bourbon and can’t even sniff it now. Still have a couple bottles but geez I can’t even imagine how tough this one will be. Thanks for the heads up though.

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#3425 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 14th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Yeah ETL is nice... I like Blanton more but it’s good.

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#3426 Post by BLittle » November 15th, 2019, 1:34 pm

Total Wine had Elijah Craig Single Barrel 18 for $149, only two left in Fresno (was told just got off the truck)
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#3427 Post by Rajesh P a r i k h » November 15th, 2019, 8:12 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
I had the Amaranth a few weeks ago at a bar in Maine. Pretty decent/average bourbon.

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#3428 Post by Kris Patten » November 16th, 2019, 8:05 am

Rajesh P a r i k h wrote:
November 15th, 2019, 8:12 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
I had the Amaranth a few weeks ago at a bar in Maine. Pretty decent/average bourbon.
Haven't tried it yet, need to grab a sample. It's a nontraditional Bourbon grain so not sure what to expect.
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#3429 Post by Kris Patten » November 18th, 2019, 5:27 pm

New releases of Elijah Craig 18 and 23 are inbound and since I am too lazy to scroll back Whistle Pig Samurai Scientist aged in Japanese Umeshu barrels, high tariff, but worth a try if you see it at a bar.
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#3430 Post by Andrew Kotowski » November 19th, 2019, 11:18 pm

@Kris - will the ECs hit the shelf anywhere or disappear instantly?
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#3431 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 20th, 2019, 11:48 am

Sigh, fwgs sent an email about birthday bourbon which was sold out 1 min after it was sent.

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#3432 Post by Kris Patten » November 20th, 2019, 9:02 pm

Andrew Kotowski wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 11:18 pm
@Kris - will the ECs hit the shelf anywhere or disappear instantly?
Should be able to find some at retail. I'll take a look next week and see who's ordered it.
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#3433 Post by Joe Chanley » November 21st, 2019, 5:43 am

Kris Patten wrote:
November 18th, 2019, 5:27 pm
New releases of Elijah Craig 18 and 23 are inbound and since I am too lazy to scroll back Whistle Pig Samurai Scientist aged in Japanese Umeshu barrels, high tariff, but worth a try if you see it at a bar.
My boss was generous enough to buy 2 rounds of this while we were in Nashville 2 weeks ago and it was fantastic.

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#3434 Post by Kris Patten » November 22nd, 2019, 11:27 am

Joe Chanley wrote:
November 21st, 2019, 5:43 am
Kris Patten wrote:
November 18th, 2019, 5:27 pm
New releases of Elijah Craig 18 and 23 are inbound and since I am too lazy to scroll back Whistle Pig Samurai Scientist aged in Japanese Umeshu barrels, high tariff, but worth a try if you see it at a bar.
My boss was generous enough to buy 2 rounds of this while we were in Nashville 2 weeks ago and it was fantastic.
Cool boss. Looking forward to trying it in next few weeks myself.
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#3435 Post by ERPark » November 22nd, 2019, 1:12 pm

In case anyone’s interested, saw WhistlePig 18 year double malt straight rye for $299.99 and Wild Turkey Master’s Keep Cornerstone Kentucky straight rye for $139.99 at Costco. Both prices below W-S low.
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#3436 Post by JulianD » November 22nd, 2019, 4:34 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
ah yeah, more unattainable (at MSRP) bourbons

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#3437 Post by Mike Maguire » November 23rd, 2019, 6:45 am

JulianD wrote:
November 22nd, 2019, 4:34 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
ah yeah, more unattainable (at MSRP) bourbons

[head-bang.gif]
My thoughts exactly!

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#3438 Post by Leonard Taylor » November 23rd, 2019, 6:52 am

You guys that live in states where Costco can sell liquor are truly sickening. NC controls all liquor sales and what we get is paltry. If you happen to be in the store right when they get some hard to find stuff you are one of the lucky ones. My local store got three bottles of Blanton's last week and it was snapped up in minutes of when they opened.
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#3439 Post by Adam Noble » November 23rd, 2019, 7:04 am

Costco is the reason WA has the highest liquor tax in the country. Maybe world.

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#3440 Post by Edward H. Earles » November 23rd, 2019, 9:31 am

I live in a state which allows Costco to sell liquor, and our Costco never has anything interesting in the distilled spirits category. Once in a blue moon a good deal on wine, but never liquor.

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#3441 Post by Kris Patten » November 23rd, 2019, 3:09 pm

Mike Maguire wrote:
November 23rd, 2019, 6:45 am
JulianD wrote:
November 22nd, 2019, 4:34 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Few more bourbons landing...

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute
Weller Full Proof
Weller CYPB

Be on lookout!
ah yeah, more unattainable (at MSRP) bourbons

[head-bang.gif]
My thoughts exactly!
So I see what you mean looking at WinesearcherPro pricing on these, but below are what we sell them for to retailers.

EH Taylor Amaranth Grain of the Gods $80
Elmer T Lee 100th Year Tribute - escapes me
Weller Full Proof $32
Weller CYPB $32
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#3442 Post by Andrew Kotowski » November 24th, 2019, 3:06 am

My local Metropolitan Market is missing out on the better bottles lately... not sure what’s happening.
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#3443 Post by Otto Dobre » November 24th, 2019, 5:11 pm

Costco has a 2 bottle package of Old Forester for $64.99. Includes the 1920 Prohibition and the 100 proof bottle.

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#3444 Post by bradkaplan » November 24th, 2019, 6:08 pm

Otto Dobre wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:11 pm
Costco has a 2 bottle package of Old Forester for $64.99. Includes the 1920 Prohibition and the 100 proof bottle.
Wut? I need to check that out. That's basically the price of 1920 by itself.
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#3445 Post by Adam Noble » November 24th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Otto Dobre wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:11 pm
Costco has a 2 bottle package of Old Forester for $64.99. Includes the 1920 Prohibition and the 100 proof bottle.
That same package is around $92 in Seattle.

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#3446 Post by Otto Dobre » November 24th, 2019, 8:54 pm

bradkaplan wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 6:08 pm
Otto Dobre wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:11 pm
Costco has a 2 bottle package of Old Forester for $64.99. Includes the 1920 Prohibition and the 100 proof bottle.
Wut? I need to check that out. That's basically the price of 1920 by itself.
That's crazy, Adam.
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#3447 Post by Mike Maguire » November 24th, 2019, 9:49 pm

Adam Noble wrote:
November 23rd, 2019, 7:04 am
Costco is the reason WA has the highest liquor tax in the country. Maybe world.
Costco certainly opened Pandora’s box, but the 20% added tax was supposed to expire in 2015, guess what , it didn’t. Are you old enough to remember how they sold
the lottery to the voters? Will eventually fully fund education in our state, how did that workout?

This state gets enough of my money for various taxes, but nothing for booze or lottery.Road trips to Oregon and California satisfy my needs and wants.

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#3448 Post by Andrew Kotowski » November 25th, 2019, 5:15 am

@Mike - it’s relative though. Local stores would have NEVER had access to some of the booze that Total Wine and Costco bring in. Prices are stupid, but am happy I’ve got more than five bottles of bourbon to choose from.
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#3449 Post by ERPark » November 26th, 2019, 10:07 am

Had some Four Roses Al Young and Jack Daniels Belle of Lincoln (from decanter) yesterday, courtesy of a very generous forumite. Both were great examples of bourbon from their respective eras.
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#3450 Post by Edward H. Earles » November 26th, 2019, 6:41 pm

Otto Dobre wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 5:11 pm
Costco has a 2 bottle package of Old Forester for $64.99. Includes the 1920 Prohibition and the 100 proof bottle.
Buy, Buy, Buy.

Edit: Enjoying a wee dram of 1920 as I write this. $50 here in KY for the 1920. Best Bourbon deal going.

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