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Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: October 26th, 2019, 12:11 pm
by Mark.Ricca
I am looking for feedback on the use of styrofoam shippers vs. cardboard.

Criteria being cost and protection of product being shipped, what is your experience?

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: October 28th, 2019, 5:56 pm
by Gray G
cardboard

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: October 28th, 2019, 6:54 pm
by C. Bowman
In 17+ years of shipping we've only have temp issues or broken bottles with laydown pulp, never with stryo and it's better insulation. The styro is a little higher cost but it's worth it not having to replace bottles. There are places that will recycle styro

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: October 31st, 2019, 9:46 am
by jordan whitehead
product cost, shipping cost to me, storage space are main issues with styro

been using pulp lately. wrapping with foam sheets

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 21st, 2019, 8:27 am
by Michael O'Brien
Does anyone take into consideration recyclability and what the customer prefers?

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 23rd, 2019, 11:40 am
by Mark.Ricca
Michael O'Brien wrote:
November 21st, 2019, 8:27 am
Does anyone take into consideration recyclability and what the customer prefers?
As a customer I prefer to see pulp. I am trying to convince the owners of my stores to switch to pulp, but they are skeptical to say the least.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 12:41 pm
by Peter Shurman
This consumer prefers recyclable shippers, styro adds to our growing environmental problems.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 1:00 pm
by Glenn L e v i n e
Peter Shurman wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 12:41 pm
This consumer prefers recyclable shippers, styro adds to our growing environmental problems.
This one as well.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 1:59 pm
by Peter Shurman
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 1:00 pm
Peter Shurman wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 12:41 pm
This consumer prefers recyclable shippers, styro adds to our growing environmental problems.
This one as well.
I'm seriously considering dropping some direct-to-consumer buys because their third party guys strictly use styro.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 2:53 pm
by mattcitrang
Peter Shurman wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 1:59 pm
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 1:00 pm
Peter Shurman wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 12:41 pm
This consumer prefers recyclable shippers, styro adds to our growing environmental problems.
This one as well.
I'm seriously considering dropping some direct-to-consumer buys because their third party guys strictly use styro.
Would you drop Bedrock?

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 2:57 pm
by Scott G r u n e r
Compostable or recyclable should be the only choice.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 3:46 pm
by Peter Shurman
mattcitrang wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Peter Shurman wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 1:59 pm
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
November 24th, 2019, 1:00 pm


This one as well.
I'm seriously considering dropping some direct-to-consumer buys because their third party guys strictly use styro.
Would you drop Bedrock?
I'm surprised that they of all wineries that I deal with, continue to allow their shipper to use styro. Yes I would if an alternative material isn't offered.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: November 24th, 2019, 3:53 pm
by Paul Miller
You might want to read this

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=164259&hilit=Styrofoam

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: December 18th, 2019, 6:16 pm
by Peter Shurman
Extremely satisfied that Bedrock's shipper finally did the right thing ... [cheers.gif]

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: December 30th, 2019, 3:32 am
by Mattstolz
I pointed this out in a thread on the epicurean page, but I got a cool alternative from D’Artagnan a couple weeks ago in the form of a compostable styro-like corn based material. it insulated well enough to keep frozen stuff frozen, provided protection, and came with a whole list of ways it can be used or broken down.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: December 31st, 2019, 3:05 pm
by John Glas
I prefer cardboard. I have never had a bottle damaged with either.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: February 20th, 2020, 4:06 pm
by Anthony C
As a consumer I prefer the cardboard/pulp ones. We compost them or use them as fire starter kindling.

7 years of wine clubs and almost every shipment has been cardboard and no broken bottles. Only exception is if there's a heat wave, I usually get a styro with cold pack and I don't mind that. We reuse the cold packs and can recycle styrofoam here so that's no big deal. But for reuse, you can't beat the cardboard.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 2:46 pm
by Rich K0rz€nk0
Cardboard, easier on the environment and disposal

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 4:47 am
by Bas_vm
Cardboard, mostly because of the storage and the environment. Besides that we have found isolation packs totally made from recycled paper there we put the bottles in for temperature control and extra protection.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: May 25th, 2020, 3:01 pm
by H. N o w b a r
I also prefer fiber for all of the reasons previously stated. I do get the occasional Styrofoam container with the cold packs which I don't mind as an exception to the rule. To date, I've been throwing the Styrofoam containers away but I understand some transfer stations will actually recycle them. Trying to find out if my local transfer station offers this recycling service. That would be a pleasant discovery.

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: June 2nd, 2020, 2:04 pm
by H. N o w b a r
Thanks to this thread I was able to research and learn that our local waste management company does indeed recycle Styrofoam shippers if you drop them off at their intake facility. Otherwise, they ask that you throw it in the garbage. I'm going to save my Styrofoam shippers for drop off going forward. Thanks for the heads-up.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=st ... M%3DHDRSC3

Re: Styro shippers vs Cardboard

Posted: July 5th, 2020, 5:24 pm
by Dan Kravitz
My business switched to cardboard. We keep some styro on hand for shipping samples in blazing heat, but otherwise it's cardboard. Also, everything is chilled to 33 degrees before being packed and we time it so the shipments leave within about an hour of packing.

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Dan Kravitz