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Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 12th, 2019, 1:43 pm
by Mark R
I was grabbing some everyday stuff, but shocked to find bottles of Kosta Browne RRV for $80 at the North Miami location today. Also 2016 97pt Beaucastel 97pt for $74, and a 100pt port - can’t remember which one or exact price, but under $80 I think - I lost track because my mind at that point was boggled by the KB - how could they have enough production to supply Costco?!

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 12th, 2019, 1:58 pm
by Mich@el Ch@ng
The Beaucastel price isn’t fantastic.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 12th, 2019, 10:05 pm
by Sean Devaney
Just a WAG but I wonder if the distributor of KB in FL had to move x number of cases some wine and the buyer for Costco say "Hey I can help you out if you give me something good for my top stores." I bet it went to only a couple of stores.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 13th, 2019, 6:00 pm
by Scott Brunson
Sean Devaney wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 10:05 pm
Just a WAG but I wonder if the distributor of KB in FL had to move x number of cases some wine and the buyer for Costco say "Hey I can help you out if you give me something good for my top stores." I bet it went to only a couple of stores.
Didn't make it to Boca (I'm pretty sure).
I see the Beaucastel pretty frequently, both in FL and in SC.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 15th, 2019, 5:38 am
by Mark R
What is the KB mailing list price for the Russian River Valley these days? When it hit $70, I got off the list, and I'd like to know how the $80 Costco price compares.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 15th, 2019, 8:00 pm
by jcoley3
Sean Devaney wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 10:05 pm
Just a WAG but I wonder if the distributor of KB in FL had to move x number of cases some wine and the buyer for Costco say "Hey I can help you out if you give me something good for my top stores." I bet it went to only a couple of stores.
And I bet the KB people aren't happy with the distributor when they find out.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 18th, 2019, 9:53 am
by Mark R
I don't think KB should mind much - it's not like it's a 'fire sale' price, and anyone who buys it may decide they like it sufficiently to get on the KB mail list (making them a recurring client for KB), so when you think about it, they should actually actively promote placing it in the high-end section of Costco, who would otherwise never consider it given the small volume they'd be able to offer. I'm headed back to the store later today, so I'll see if it moved, see if I can find out how it got there, and collect notes for the separate thread specific to Costco I found here on the forum: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133163&p=2716227#p2716227.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 20th, 2019, 8:02 pm
by jcoley3
Mark R wrote:
April 18th, 2019, 9:53 am
I don't think KB should mind much - it's not like it's a 'fire sale' price, and anyone who buys it may decide they like it sufficiently to get on the KB mail list (making them a recurring client for KB), so when you think about it, they should actually actively promote placing it in the high-end section of Costco, who would otherwise never consider it given the small volume they'd be able to offer. I'm headed back to the store later today, so I'll see if it moved, see if I can find out how it got there, and collect notes for the separate thread specific to Costco I found here on the forum: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133163&p=2716227#p2716227.
You might not think, but many wineries get very unhappy when their wines show up at retail - Rafanelli and Navarro both come to mind, and I'm pretty sure KB is basically restaurant only outside of the mailing list. I know locally one distributor nearly lost a cult brand when the national sales manager found out a few bottles hit Costco's shelves.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: April 24th, 2019, 7:17 pm
by Scott G r u n e r
Costco isn’t retail! Costco is.....*Costco*!

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: May 13th, 2019, 6:28 pm
by Richard Albert
I thought I saw KB was going to pursue traditional distribution on a small scale to diversify market avenues.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 8:13 am
by Bill Tex Landreth
jcoley3 wrote:
April 20th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Mark R wrote:
April 18th, 2019, 9:53 am
I don't think KB should mind much - it's not like it's a 'fire sale' price, and anyone who buys it may decide they like it sufficiently to get on the KB mail list (making them a recurring client for KB), so when you think about it, they should actually actively promote placing it in the high-end section of Costco, who would otherwise never consider it given the small volume they'd be able to offer. I'm headed back to the store later today, so I'll see if it moved, see if I can find out how it got there, and collect notes for the separate thread specific to Costco I found here on the forum: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133163&p=2716227#p2716227.
You might not think, but many wineries get very unhappy when their wines show up at retail - Rafanelli and Navarro both come to mind, and I'm pretty sure KB is basically restaurant only outside of the mailing list. I know locally one distributor nearly lost a cult brand when the national sales manager found out a few bottles hit Costco's shelves.
In Texas, KB is readily available at retail on the shelves of Central Market and HEB. The Fort Worth Central Market even has a big supply of half bottle appellation pinots.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: May 16th, 2019, 7:34 am
by Robert M yers
KB are Dusty on the shelf now in Ohio believe it or not.

Re: Shocking finds at a Miami Costco today

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 3:16 pm
by nbleecher
KB was sold to a private investment group in 2009 for $40million when it was producing a little over 10,000 cases. Last year it was sold to Duckhorn for an 'undisclosed sum'. KB has never had vineyards or a winery and all of the wine was produced with purchased fruit. That makes the brand incredibly scalable (which it would need to be in order to make money for someone shelling out $40+million).

They did a phenomenal job marketing the brand and now it has great name recognition. Last I heard, they were producing 30,000+ cases, so of course they are going to need sufficient outlets to move the volume. I can't imagine an $80 bottle of RRV Pinot moving very quickly at a Costco in Miami. But an $80 bottle of KB? That works much better. Of course, sitting on a random liquor store shelf in Ohio, yeah, probably not going to move very quickly but at least that's one more case out the door for Duckhorn. Multiplied by 100 retail stores in 50 states, you've just produced and sold another 5,000 cases, $2.4million gross. Throw a couple pallets at a few Costcos around the country and .......

KB isn't a small, boutique handcrafted wine anymore (arguable whether it ever really was). They did a great job selling the story and their marketing effort$ really paid off. Now, like most labels that have been gobbled up, you're buying the label, not the wine, more than ever.