Why do wine bars fail?

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Why do wine bars fail?

#51 Post by RichardFlack » March 10th, 2018, 10:12 am

Lonnie F. wrote:Mitch,
You hit the nail on the head. I'm never happy paying more than retail for wine. I've been to wine bars and I either have to pay ridiculous prices or drink lousy wine that I would never purchase by the bottle. A good chef can do things I can't, a wine bar can't add much to that glass.
I suspect another issue would be rent hikes. A successful startup is probably based in part in a canny location, affordable but up and coming. When it ups and comes rents go up and the margins evaporate.

From the other side of the counter as it were I look for ambience, a selection of interesting affordable wines I do not have at home, tapas or similar, good conversation including but not only about wine (owner or customers). For all those pluses, I'd pay more than retail.

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Why do wine bars fail?

#52 Post by PeterJ » March 10th, 2018, 3:56 pm

Lonnie F. wrote:Mitch,
You hit the nail on the head. I'm never happy paying more than retail for wine. I've been to wine bars and I either have to pay ridiculous prices or drink lousy wine that I would never purchase by the bottle. A good chef can do things I can't, a wine bar can't add much to that glass.
That’s why you should try wine bars that have well-curated selections of small production wines and don’t charge ridiculous prices. The idea is to be able to enjoy a glass or(better yet a taste) of a wine you’d not be likely to fork over the price of a full bottle for.
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Why do wine bars fail?

#53 Post by Victor Hong » April 16th, 2018, 11:56 am

Mark B wrote:Has anyone seen a BYOF wine bar? Perhaps focusing on a younger demographic and partnering with food trucks?
Yes. Home.
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