Bourgogne can be such a great value!

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  • 2009 Domaine Jean-Michel Gaunoux Bourgogne - France, Burgundy, Bourgogne (4/26/2014)
    What I said in Novemeber except I’m liking this wine a smidge more still. I hope they offer more of this at Envoyer. This is the year I buy more of these sub $30 Bourgognes from the right producers in the right vintages. Paid $25, drinks like $40 plus. (90 pts.#
  • 2009 Domaine Jean-Michel Gaunoux Bourgogne - France, Burgundy, Bourgogne #11/12/2013#
    I bought this btl with the purpose of trying this producer without making a big investment. PnP. I very much enjoyed this and found it a stellar example of the perfectly ripe fruit from '09. This was chambolle like with a bowl full of fresh ripe cherries and spice. Very pretty and at $25 a much better wine than you generally find in CA for this money. I’d buy this again. #89 pts.)

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I like Bourgogne wines too. Wallet friendly and no need to wait a decade plus to drink 'em.

Thanks for the notes.

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And I am on the other side of the scale here - I think that 9 out of every 10 Bourgogne Rouges on the market are light, prematurely dried out and just void of flavor. I have been going through a mixed case of 2009 Bourgogne Rouges and haven’t like one yet - poured half of them down the drain after a day or two - and the only Bourgogne Rouges that I like usually are higher priced in the 1er Cru range (Dugat etc) -

I would much rather drink an old vine Grenache (or Cru Beaujolais) from the south of France where the same dollars get you 20 times the wine.

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Tom, I think it “depends”. Depends on the producer and style of Pinot Noir you prefer. I like my PNs more ethereal, feather weight and red fruited. I find a lot of Bourgognes in that camp. I’m not a big fan of the full bodied, rich, oaky PNs like the two Dugats make. So that may explain our difference of opinion on Bourgogne. I do agree though that you occassionally hit a clunker that is dried out or chewy but that seems tied to the producer, vintage or terroir or a combo of those aspects. In Burgundy, producer selection is crtitical, IMO. I too, love Cru Beaujolais and have heard the same criticisms waged there too. I’m selective in Beaujolais too about producer.

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Had the 2012 Nicolas Potel bourgogne at Fig & Olive last night for $54 [shock.gif] and was a decent wine and worked with the food but what a ripoff! I didn’t know its true value (around $15) until this morning. There are a lot of good value bourgogne’s out there that fit my likes.

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Tom, I was just in Chicago on business and drinking from the list. In Minneapolis I always byob. Corkage here is typically around $15. It was tough trying to find value on the list this week. Ate solo at 2 semi spendy restaurants. I ended up drinking a glass of a very decent, no name, Vouvray for $11 and a glass of JP Droin AOC Chablis for $15. Also had a nice glass for Alborino for $13 and another Chablis at $15. I was eating all seafood.

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pretty place with mehhh food.

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Hi,

Good value dépends on the price… Could you share the cost of these wines with us please if you remember?

Alex R.

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Both $25 but drank like $40+ IMO.

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I drink Jadot’s bourgogne “Pinot Noir” all the time which I source from costco for around $13. Stocked up on the 2009 and it’s drinking quite nicely. I’m with you Craig, I like the lighter, red fruited, food friendly versions of pinot and there are lots available to fit the bill. Recent purchases include Faiveley bourgogne @ $18, Faiveley Mercurey village @ $20 and Drouhin Rully village @ $24.


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We love Bourgogne, as well as HCDN, and HCDB. Producers matter greatly though.

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Tom Moore: “Had the 2012 Nicolas Potel bourgogne at Fig & Olive last night for $54 and was a decent wine and worked with the food but what a ripoff! I didn’t know its true value (around $15) until this morning. There are a lot of good value bourgogne’s out there that fit my likes.”
I just purchased three bottles of this wine for $14.99 a bottle (before sales tax.) Glad to hear you found it a decent wine.

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We’ve been through about a case of 2010 M. Roche de Bellene (made by the REAL N. Potel) Bourg which I picked up for sub $20 a bottle. It’s great stuff.

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Lafarge 2002 was remarkable. Some good wines at this level.

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Was it Roche de Bellene or labeled Potel? The Roche de Bellene Bourgognes (I’ve had 2010 and 2011) are drop dead gorgeous and $19.99 or less. Potel no longer makes the wines bearing his name, so not too surprising that it would be meh. Never had them, but $54 at a restaurant seems like about 2.5x markup, which is about standard for the industry.

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The 2010 Domaine Parent Bourgogne is a terrific wine and also below the $20 mark. Probably the best Bourgogne in recent memory for me.

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They can be a great value or not. And it seems like many of the ones I liked are going away.

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I had this (or was it the 2011?) at Tessa on the UWS a couple of weeks ago. They were out of my first choice (a Bouvier Fixin) so I tried this, my first Parent. It was very easy to drink, unlike many young Bourgogne which can be burly and have grainy tannins. It was a very good restaurant wine, which is pretty much all I’m looking for in a Bourgogne.

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Heres the wine and its available retail for $15 all over the place. It was good but…
http://www.nicolas-potel.fr/Fiches%20techniquesGB/FTNPGB%20-%2048%20D%20-%20Bourgogne%20Rouge%202012%20Nicolas%20Potel.pdf

The scenery at this Newport Beach hangout made it worth it though [snort.gif]