Does anyone drink Sauvignon Blanc anymore?

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Does anyone drink Sauvignon Blanc anymore?

#151 Post by Chris Blum » April 25th, 2014, 10:52 am

I recently tried the 2013 Quivet Tench Vineyard SB and thought it was really big, nice fruit, but with a distracting overpowering alcohol note. I have a bit of an intolerance for hot seeming wines, so my palate might be an outlier.
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#152 Post by Arv R » March 4th, 2019, 9:45 pm

Pat Martin wrote:
March 6th, 2014, 10:55 pm
I am a sucker for good Sauvignon Blanc (unlike Chardonnay, of which I am skeptic-- I can love chardonnay, but it has to be in my wheelhouse stylistically). Cloudy Bay SB is my stand by. White Bordeaux is lovely too, but it has gotten pricey. There's great Sancerre out there.

I've yet to be charmed much by a USA S. Blanc though.
It's been a while since I've had a Cloudy Bay, but I had a 2016 Cloudy Bay S-B over 3 nights with (respectively) barramundi fish, skate, and then chicken picatta and the wine was really good. It seemed to have a little more depth and interest that the typical NZSB quaffer. I remember having these a long time ago and liking them, but eventually shifting to other labels once these got to be 3x comparable prices. Lots of grapefruit pith, lemon, and quinine. Real crowd pleaser for a food wine.
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#153 Post by Jim Anderson » March 4th, 2019, 9:54 pm

Always happy to give any SB thread a bump. I mean as long as it’s pro-SB.
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#154 Post by RichardFlack » March 4th, 2019, 10:07 pm

Kirk.Grant wrote:
March 6th, 2014, 6:11 pm
Hell yes...Didier Dagueneau
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And more affordably, (and available) the better Bourgeois, Jolivet, etc. The problem (for me) is NZ and it’s imitators.

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#155 Post by Richard Albert » March 4th, 2019, 10:25 pm

Kalin with age, very impressive.
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#156 Post by JohnP » March 4th, 2019, 11:58 pm

I scooped up my allocation of Realm SauvBlanc last month. A very modern style, $60 a pop, but damn good IMO. I really hope they start blending in Semillon one day. Only white BDX version I've tried in Napa that is next level is Morlet's La Proportion Doree. Would love to see Realm whip up their version.
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#157 Post by John A Hunt » March 5th, 2019, 6:59 am

I keep my eyes open for Sauvignon Blanc, but won't go so far to say I run around looking for the next great drink...

I have enjoyed Bedrock's Judge Family Vineyard over the past few years, and recently the first of three Jean Edwards from BDX.

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#158 Post by B.J. Law » March 5th, 2019, 7:04 am

It's one of my wife's favourite varietals. Kim Crawford specifically. Is the demand for it dwindling in the last several years or something?
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#159 Post by Kirk.Grant » March 5th, 2019, 7:17 am

B.J. Law wrote:
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It's one of my wife's favourite varietals. Kim Crawford specifically. Is the demand for it dwindling in the last several years or something?
Not that I'm aware of...eventually there's a point where everyone needs to stock up again. newhere
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#160 Post by Bud Carey » March 5th, 2019, 7:44 am

I keep stocked up on Quivet.
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#161 Post by Dale Bowers » March 5th, 2019, 7:49 am

Yes, but almost exclusively in the hot weather months.
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#162 Post by John Kight » March 5th, 2019, 8:07 am

M.Kaplan wrote:
March 6th, 2014, 6:10 pm
Sure.

Edmond & Anne Vatan
Paul & Francois Cotat
Gerard Boulay

Vatan is the apogee of Sauvignon Blanc.
These three (plus Alphonse Mellot) are my four go-to Sauvignon Blancs (although I stopped buying Vatan about 10 years back due to expense and increasing difficulty to obtain). I only drink Sancerre Sauvignon Blanc, because the others (New Zealand, White Bordeaux, California, etc.) all have too much cat urine/fox urine smell for me, and often too much green bell pepper/jalapeno as well....I just can't take it.

And while I do enjoy the producers named above, for the price there is SOOOO much competition. When choosing between even a great Sancerre and something else, I find myself often preferring a Riesling, Chablis, Gruner, or any number of crisp, dry Italian wines (Soave, Vermentino, Orvieto, Kerner, Ribolla Gialla, Vitovska, etc.) as my summer drink.

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#163 Post by Ron Slye » March 5th, 2019, 8:23 am

I am surprised no one has mentioned South Africa -- particularly those in Europe who I think get a wider selection than we in the US. Cape Point Vineyards does an amazing version that is blend with Semillon if I remember correctly. High end white bdx at a fraction of the price.

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#164 Post by Karen Troisi » March 5th, 2019, 10:35 am

John A Hunt wrote:
March 5th, 2019, 6:59 am
I keep my eyes open for Sauvignon Blanc, but won't go so far to say I run around looking for the next great drink...

I have enjoyed Bedrock's Judge Family Vineyard over the past few years, and recently the first of three Jean Edwards from BDX.
Thanks for the mention John - glad you enjoyed it!
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#165 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » March 5th, 2019, 1:29 pm

Just opened a 2017 Cantina Terlano Winkl. Delicious stuff.
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#166 Post by paul hanna » March 5th, 2019, 10:19 pm

I try not to.

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#167 Post by Gerhard P. » March 6th, 2019, 5:47 am

An old thread - but I repeat myself:
I drink a lot of the great Sauvignon blancs from Southern Styria (Steiermark), it´s my everyday white ... and the best examples are fine enough for the greatest events.
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#168 Post by Gray G » March 6th, 2019, 6:02 am

http://www.grievewinery.com/

very good wine, classic looking label, definite grapefruit flavor with minerality and flowers

https://www.realmcellars.com/pages/wine-fidelio.html

beautiful label, reminiscent of Klimt
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#169 Post by David Baum » March 6th, 2019, 10:22 am

Doesn't everyone?

If not is sauvignon blanc dead at retail also? deadhorse

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#170 Post by Paul H Galli » March 6th, 2019, 10:51 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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Nope. No SB here. Cannot stand the stuff.
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#171 Post by M.Kaplan » March 6th, 2019, 10:57 am

Gerhard P. wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 5:47 am
An old thread - but I repeat myself:
I drink a lot of the great Sauvignon blancs from Southern Styria (Steiermark), it´s my everyday white ... and the best examples are fine enough for the greatest events.
Hi Gerhard,
Which do you recommend as the better/best examples? Thanks,
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#172 Post by S. Rash » March 6th, 2019, 11:29 am

California Sauvignon Blanc usually have more body and a fuller mouthfeel. Quivira in Dry Creek Valley is one of my favorites
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#173 Post by Bill Mauger » March 6th, 2019, 12:26 pm

Gerard Bouley and Lucien Crochet are our go to producers. Unlike many here not a fan of Merry Edwards perhaps oak treatment?

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#174 Post by Gerhard P. » March 6th, 2019, 1:20 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 10:57 am
Gerhard P. wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 5:47 am
An old thread - but I repeat myself:
I drink a lot of the great Sauvignon blancs from Southern Styria (Steiermark), it´s my everyday white ... and the best examples are fine enough for the greatest events.
Hi Gerhard,
Which do you recommend as the better/best examples? Thanks,
That would be a long list (and I don´t have any time now),
but very quickly and short:

Tement Zieregg
Potzinger Joseph/Sulz
Gross Nussberg
Erich Sabathi Pössnitzberg
Sepp MUSTER Graf (Sgaminegg is 50:50 SB+Chardonnay)
Polz Hochgrassnitzberg + Obegg
Sattlerhof Kranachberg
Neumeister Moarfeitl
many more
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#175 Post by John M Richards » March 6th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Bedrock Ode to Lulu has completely replaced our past purchases of Merry Edwards SB. [winner.gif]

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#176 Post by Richard Albert » March 6th, 2019, 6:10 pm

I am sitting on some 2005 Vatan because the last time I tasted it in 2015 it was stunning, atypically rich and complex, but I was told I slayed a puppy.
Ouch, a Vatan rookie error; tick tock...
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#177 Post by S t e p h e nK » March 6th, 2019, 8:29 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:
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Always happy to give any SB thread a bump. I mean as long as it’s pro-SB.
You make excellent SB. Love the Estate bottling.
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#178 Post by Christian Obermanns » March 6th, 2019, 8:38 pm

Dog Point Vineyards Sauv Blanc from NZ is a go-to for me, their standard ~$20 offering is an excellent option for stocking the fridge. They also have a "Section 94" which is much richer and designed for light aging. I also like to splurge on an Altamura every now and then although the style borders on White Burgundy territory.

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#179 Post by T. Altmayer » March 6th, 2019, 8:40 pm

Spottswoode used to make a lovely SB, but haven’t had it in a while. Don’t mind a full-bodied SB, but unfotunately I’ve found too many from Napa have a bit of heat to them.
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#180 Post by ericskitei » March 6th, 2019, 8:43 pm

That Screagle SB tho

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#181 Post by Randy Bowman » March 6th, 2019, 8:44 pm

I still occasionally drink S/B and it is with a purpose. Years ago when I was trying to learn to like white wines, I had an Australian S/B served by the glass at our local high end steak house. I'd had a late lunch and wasn't hungry. The S/B was fairly acidic with a citrus backbone. I made me hungry and cleansed my palate, making the first courses tasty. Now I like to start a major meal with an S/B.

I have a customer who drops in to have a cigar in our smoking lounge and he always asks for an S/B. Didn't make sense to me so I tried a glass of S/B with a cigar. Just like at the restaurant, the S/B cleansed the palate and did not impart anything to detract from the flavors of the cigar and in fact, enhanced them. The S/B is like a sorbet between courses.
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#182 Post by Chr!s G|@rn3r » March 6th, 2019, 8:45 pm

John M Richards wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 5:52 pm
Bedrock Ode to Lulu has completely replaced our past purchases of Merry Edwards SB. [winner.gif]
Wow. Merry Edwards is the only SB I drink regularly. What makes the Bedrock so much better to you, and what are the similarities in the wines?

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#183 Post by Joe Mendez » March 6th, 2019, 9:32 pm

Gray G wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 6:02 am
http://www.grievewinery.com/

very good wine, classic looking label, definite grapefruit flavor with minerality and flowers

https://www.realmcellars.com/pages/wine-fidelio.html

beautiful label, reminiscent of Klimt
+1 on Fidelio, I would also add Arkenstone and the Melka SB to the list of great SB's.

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#184 Post by Mike Grammer » March 7th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Love me some good SB. Great Bordeaux Blanc can really get me going (have liked SHL the most consistently but would happily stock more Pape Clement Blanc if I could afford it). Cotat (both of them), Vatan, Boulay and...Dagueneau...mmmm. Araujo Eisele and, yes, the Kalins. I do like NZ, but am fairly picky and we don't necessarily see the best of 'em here in Ontario. Dog Point and Tom Eddy's project there have been my go-tos in this regard. Have loved Bevan Kick Ranch and Grey Stack in the past, ditto Juslyn's SB. Spottswoode's has been on and off for me.

I still have to get around to posting notes on the whole dinner at Paul Hiyake's about a month ago, but the 04 Dagueneau Pur Sang is my early-line WOTY.

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#185 Post by Dave McIsaac » March 8th, 2019, 1:42 pm

I have some Bougetz coming next week - has anyone had it?

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#186 Post by Casey Hartlip » March 8th, 2019, 3:54 pm

Husch SB Mendocino. Great value.
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#187 Post by Vince T » March 8th, 2019, 7:00 pm

Cotat, Dagueneau, and Loire silex wines in general.
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#188 Post by Mark Thompson » March 9th, 2019, 10:53 am

I’m not a big Sauvignon Blanc fan, but my wife had consumed 1/2 a bottle of the 2013 Accendo with a friend about a month ago. I pulled the remains out of the fridge last night expecting to dump it, but it was actually very good—so of course I finished the bottle. I think this was the Araujo family’s inaugural vintage with this label after the sold their original winery to the owners of Chateau Latour. I have have yet to try their new Cabernet.

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#189 Post by Barry L i p t o n » March 9th, 2019, 11:39 am

M.Kaplan wrote:
March 6th, 2014, 6:10 pm
Sure.

Edmond & Anne Vatan
Paul & Francois Cotat
Gerard Boulay

Vatan is the apogee of Sauvignon Blanc.
+1.

And other Loire SB's when I'm in restaurants and they are offered by the glass.

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#190 Post by Marshall Gelb » March 9th, 2019, 3:26 pm

T. Altmayer wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 8:40 pm
Spottswoode used to make a lovely SB, but haven’t had it in a while. Don’t mind a full-bodied SB, but unfotunately I’ve found too many from Napa have a bit of heat to them.
Still do! It is one I still purchase every year.


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#191 Post by John M Richards » March 10th, 2019, 5:59 pm

Chr!s G|@rn3r wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 8:45 pm
John M Richards wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 5:52 pm
Bedrock Ode to Lulu has completely replaced our past purchases of Merry Edwards SB. [winner.gif]
Wow. Merry Edwards is the only SB I drink regularly. What makes the Bedrock so much better to you, and what are the similarities in the wines?
A few summers ago we tasted through the Provencal roses, including Domaine Tempier. At that point I pivoted to French style rose as my go to summer lunch wine. Bedrock's Ode to Lulu is the best domestic rose we have found, and we will be picking up two cases next weekend.

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#192 Post by LMD Ermitaño » March 10th, 2019, 8:26 pm

I prefer those from the Eastern Loire. Many have mentioned Vatan, Cotat, and one mentioned Alphonse Mellot - all very good, undoubtedly. Dagueneau’s I appreciate; but not really my style. For me, I prefer the more “traditional”/typical Sancerre (and Pouilly-fumé) styles, and have them with fresh shellfish, (not so fatty) fish, and, of course, good chèvre (nb., except for champagne, I pretty much have wine only while eating).

To the foregoing fine given examples, I’d add those of Pinard & Joseph Mellot (particularly the latter’s La Gravelière).
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#193 Post by Mike Grammer » March 11th, 2019, 9:10 am

Forgot about Pinard---really good SB, agree Luis.

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#194 Post by T. Melloni » March 11th, 2019, 5:18 pm

The 2016 Grimm's Bluff Suavignon Blanc Reserve that I enjoyed at Falltacular 2019 is reason enough to be drinking Sauvignon Blanc. A delicious wine. I think I am not alone in finding this was a nice surprise for a new wine (to me).
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#195 Post by Anton D » March 15th, 2019, 2:29 pm

My wife blind poured me a Quivet 2013 sauvignon blanc this week and it is pretty darned good!

I guessed Quivet 2015, so I was proud of myself for a few minutes.

The wine: No oxidized flavors, clean kind of melon-like/tropical nose, perhaps a hint of "fresh cut grass," but not much. I little papaya on the palate, strong acidity, and a slight "oiliness" that I love when I encounter it. There were citrus and pear notes, as well. Then, a finish that lingered on and on.

Two thumbs up! (We came within an ounce or three of finishing the bottle!)

We made Pho that night and these two things went together well.

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#196 Post by T3rry D3an » March 16th, 2019, 1:52 pm

Massican SB. Every year, full allocation, no questions. Definitely has that electric mouthfeel and chalky minerality that's so addictive.

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#197 Post by Jayson Cohen » March 16th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Was surprised to search and find no mention of Henri Pelle Menetou Salon wines. Been drinking these for over twenty years when I could find them.

I just had the 2017 Vignes de Ratier (used to be bottled as Clos Ratier IIRC) today, and it was very good, a touch softer than an excellent vintage. Clos Blanchais is usually considered his top wine, and my most recent experiences with that - the ‘14 and ‘16 - were outstanding, especially the ‘14.

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#198 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » March 16th, 2019, 7:42 pm

Saturday night is fish night around these parts. We just plowed through sole meunière, caramelized fennel, broccolini and jasmine brown rice. Oh, and a 2015 Carbonnieux Blanc.
For me Carbonnieux is best young, even though the oak isn’t fully integrated. Tonight’s was spot on.
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#199 Post by Josh Espinosa » March 16th, 2019, 7:45 pm

Picked up a case of Brilliant Mistake Sauvignon Blanc locally and it’s awesome at $45. Cant beat it!

Definitely try out Celia Welch’s Rewa Sauvignon Blanc, beautiful wine!

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#200 Post by Rich Salsano » March 17th, 2019, 5:35 am

T3rry D3an wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 1:52 pm
Massican SB. Every year, full allocation, no questions. Definitely has that electric mouthfeel and chalky minerality that's so addictive.

This.
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