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#451 Post by cjsadler » July 19th, 2019, 12:13 pm

rsmithjr wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 10:20 am
2013 Bouchaine Carneros Pinot Noir 14.99

Interesting no notes on 2013 Vintage in Cellartracker. Prince of Pinot had the 2013 written up as unreleased (in 2014) and as "outstanding" no score. So for $ 52 I am trying 4.
I bought some awhile back and opened a bottle a few weeks ago. Good stuff, and a real deal at the WTSO price. Feels like it needs a year or two, though.
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#452 Post by John Glas » July 19th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Have not had good experiences with brunello from wtso

Best of luck
Agree. The Italian wines in general are not something I am willing to bite on but usually the Spanish wines I will take a chance on.

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#453 Post by Edward H. Earles » July 20th, 2019, 4:22 am

I on the other hand have had excellent results with Italian wines from WTSO. You just have to know which ones to buy.... [cheers.gif]

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#454 Post by Mike Lindauer » July 22nd, 2019, 7:02 pm

I have also had good experience with most wines (especially Spanish and Italian) from WTSO. But I'm not seeing the same bargains they had several years ago, so subsequently I'm buying very little from them now.

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#455 Post by Mike Ott » July 25th, 2019, 5:56 am

Anyone ever take a chance on low end Burgundy from WTSO? Any positive experiences? Côte de Beaune Monopole 2017 Domaine Cauvard Les Monts Battois

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#456 Post by Nick F. » July 27th, 2019, 2:53 pm

What margin do these guys make on these wines?

Very frustrated as sometimes on last bottle or wtso I see wines I am a club member of and wonder why club members didn’t get a chance to purchase at those prices?
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#457 Post by GregT » July 27th, 2019, 3:14 pm

Nick F. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 2:53 pm
What margin do these guys make on these wines?

Very frustrated as sometimes on last bottle or wtso I see wines I am a club member of and wonder why club members didn’t get a chance to purchase at those prices?
Don't know the margin but the various clubs and such may have little or no say. The wines come from various sources, but say you're an importer and you and one of your producers have decided to part ways. What are you going to do with the wine that's past vintage and sitting in your warehouse? Store it for someone? It's money tied up in inventory that you're no longer involved with and you'd rather cash out and support your continuing customers. That's one way they get wines and in some cases are able to sell for less than the former wholesale price. The producer may or may not know what's going on and will have little to say about it if the wines are in the possession of someone else and paid for.

Or say you're and importer and your wholesalers can't take all of your product because you over-estimated demand, so rather than seek out some additional wholesalers and maybe damage your existing relationships, you'd just as soon sell off your wine. If you have wholesalers outside of NJ who aren't concerned with flash sale sites, you can clear inventory that way.

The thing to remember is that as a customer you may want to buy a wine and sit on it for months or years. But the business is based on cash flow. Everyone has a window by which they have to pay their suppliers and warehousing wine is not a good way to make a profit. It simply eats up capital. So people cash out.
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#458 Post by Nick F. » July 27th, 2019, 3:35 pm

Thanks for the info, very informative.

Just was curious as one of my favorite wines went on final case today, and I am imaging the prob make a healthy margin, which i would have gladly purchased a good amount if offered from the vineyard. Especially because it’s a longer dated vintage
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#459 Post by John Glas » July 28th, 2019, 2:20 pm

Here is one to stay clear from.

2015 Eola Hills Wine Cellars Pinot Noir Winemaker's Reserve - USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley (7/28/2019)
Day 1: Sweet would be an understatement with this wine. Ripe strawberries and raspberries, spice and dust. Seriously a fruit forward style in the style of Meiomi. Not a fan and even worse than the last bottle. 81 points (81 points)

They have had a lot of really bad Oregon Pinot Noir over the last year. The only one I have enjoyed is Boedecker offering which I highly recommend. One of the better Oregon producers for the money.

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#460 Post by mattcitrang » August 6th, 2019, 6:45 am

Anything of interest in today’s Cheapskate Marathon?

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#461 Post by Edward H. Earles » August 6th, 2019, 9:44 am

mattcitrang wrote:
August 6th, 2019, 6:45 am
Anything of interest in today’s Cheapskate Marathon?
Nothing yet, as far as I've seen (I'm just checking in periodically). Mostly brand-X stuff.

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#462 Post by Mike Ott » August 21st, 2019, 11:27 am

Fontanafredda La Rosa Barolo 2010 up now...in for a four pack.

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#463 Post by mike pobega » August 21st, 2019, 2:26 pm

I am in as well.

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#464 Post by John Glas » August 21st, 2019, 2:55 pm

Clarendon Hills wine coming this Friday. Hope it is as good as the deals years ago.

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#465 Post by Jeff Skinner » August 23rd, 2019, 7:19 am

Saw Maison Champy Vosne-Romanée 1er Cru Les Suchots 2015 under the "More Wines" tab and jumped on two at $130. Looks like the winery changed hands and might be getting rid of old stock. Hope it's a decent deal, tough to resist Les Suchots for me.

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#466 Post by John Glas » August 31st, 2019, 2:22 pm

98 - Luca Maroni!
90 - James Suckling!
90 - International Wine Report!
Vino Nobile di Montepulciano 2015 Fattoria Svetoni

Wow James is losing his touch. Only 90 vs. 98 from Luca.

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#467 Post by rsmithjr » August 31st, 2019, 2:32 pm

John Glas wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 2:22 pm
98 - Luca Maroni!
90 - James Suckling!
90 - International Wine Report!
Vino Nobile di Montepulciano 2015 Fattoria Svetoni

Wow James is losing his touch. Only 90 vs. 98 from Luca.
Well Luca's scale actually goes to 108, so no they are the same....... [cheers.gif]

LOL, Luca's scores are the most absurd I have seen....When I see him mentioned that wine is an immediate ignore.....
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#468 Post by Nick F. » August 31st, 2019, 8:14 pm

Anyone ever had anything from fleury estate?
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#469 Post by John O' » September 4th, 2019, 5:03 pm

PSA: Kilikanoon Oracle Shiraz 2012 $35 (less $2 if you still have credits). Generally am over Aussie Shiraz, but I make an exception for Kilikanoon.
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#470 Post by Michae1 P0wers » September 4th, 2019, 6:39 pm

Nick F. wrote:
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Anyone ever had anything from fleury estate?
I thought about that one too. Rutherford cab for that price, and appealing CT scores for other vintages was tempting. But I didn’t bite...

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#471 Post by KevinK » September 13th, 2019, 8:49 pm

Is the 2013 Guyon Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru priced well at $75?
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#472 Post by John Glas » September 14th, 2019, 7:07 am

PSA: Kilikanoon Oracle Shiraz 2012 $35 (less $2 if you still have credits). Generally am over Aussie Shiraz, but I make an exception for Kilikanoon.
Kilikanoon usually exceeds the expectation of Aussie Shiraz. Just had a Mollydooker Boxer which I am glad I only paid $10 for and it was a perfect wine to help cure my cold.

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#473 Post by John Simpson » October 3rd, 2019, 7:18 am

Any insight on Robert Storey '16 Private Reserve Black Label cab currently offered for $22.99? I'm looking for some $25-ish Napa cab but the description calls it "ultra ripe" and "fruit driven", which I fear might mean 'syrupy'...

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#474 Post by Bdklein » October 3rd, 2019, 8:39 am

John Simpson wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 7:18 am
Any insight on Robert Storey '16 Private Reserve Black Label cab currently offered for $22.99? I'm looking for some $25-ish Napa cab but the description calls it "ultra ripe" and "fruit driven", which I fear might mean 'syrupy'...
Gone now. Have had the Sancerre they are currently offering-it was a misshipment they told me to keep (they are customer focused ).

I usually do a CellarTracker search to see what folks are saying .
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#475 Post by Jeff Skinner » October 3rd, 2019, 10:06 am

Haven’t had the Robert Storey specifically, but my experiences with Napa from WTSO has been mediocre at best. Seems like French wine has been the sweet spot for me from there.

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#476 Post by John Glas » October 3rd, 2019, 2:48 pm

Haven’t had the Robert Storey specifically, but my experiences with Napa from WTSO has been mediocre at best. Seems like French wine has been the sweet spot for me from there.
Other than Anderson's Conn Valley (price really not that attractive) I agree with the Napa statement. Just not what they used to offer for me. I usually buy Spanish everyday drinkers only due to the free shipping.

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#477 Post by Bdklein » October 3rd, 2019, 3:14 pm

John Glas wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 2:48 pm
Haven’t had the Robert Storey specifically, but my experiences with Napa from WTSO has been mediocre at best. Seems like French wine has been the sweet spot for me from there.
Other than Anderson's Conn Valley (price really not that attractive) I agree with the Napa statement. Just not what they used to offer for me. I usually buy Spanish everyday drinkers only due to the free shipping.
We have hit some home runs on a number of Stemmler Pinot Noir’s from Sonoma
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#478 Post by John Glas » October 3rd, 2019, 3:18 pm

We have hit some home runs on a number of Stemmler Pinot Noir’s from Sonoma
Keep the recs coming. Will have to seek them out. How often do they come up?

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#479 Post by Albert R » October 3rd, 2019, 6:02 pm

John Glas wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 2:48 pm
Haven’t had the Robert Storey specifically, but my experiences with Napa from WTSO has been mediocre at best. Seems like French wine has been the sweet spot for me from there.
Other than Anderson's Conn Valley (price really not that attractive) I agree with the Napa statement. Just not what they used to offer for me. I usually buy Spanish everyday drinkers only due to the free shipping.
They just had the 2014 Anderson Conn Valley Reserve Cab for $59 with free shipping on one bottle. In my neck of the woods that's a good price/shipping combo. I use them to explore new wines and for daily drinkers.
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#480 Post by John Glas » October 3rd, 2019, 6:26 pm

They just had the 2014 Anderson Conn Valley Reserve Cab for $59 with free shipping on one bottle. In my neck of the woods that's a good price/shipping combo. I use them to explore new wines and for daily drinkers.
Excellent price. Have they started charging tax to certain states?

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#481 Post by Jay $$ Winton » October 4th, 2019, 6:53 am

John Glas wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 6:26 pm
They just had the 2014 Anderson Conn Valley Reserve Cab for $59 with free shipping on one bottle. In my neck of the woods that's a good price/shipping combo. I use them to explore new wines and for daily drinkers.
Excellent price. Have they started charging tax to certain states?
Yes in DC still not to me in MD but a new law just took affect in Maryland so I think that will change. The golden days of buying wine on the internet are fading fast.
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#482 Post by John Glas » October 4th, 2019, 2:13 pm

[quoteThe golden days of buying wine on the internet are fading fast.][/quote]Truer words have never been spoken. Paying tax and shipping defeats the purpose unless you can't get the wine in your market.

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#483 Post by Albert R » October 4th, 2019, 6:20 pm

John Glas wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 6:26 pm
They just had the 2014 Anderson Conn Valley Reserve Cab for $59 with free shipping on one bottle. In my neck of the woods that's a good price/shipping combo. I use them to explore new wines and for daily drinkers.
Excellent price. Have they started charging tax to certain states?
No tax to Florida from WTSO. [cheers.gif] Interesting that some like LB and others charge the tax and others don't.
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#484 Post by b. c@stner » October 4th, 2019, 6:35 pm

John Simpson wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 7:18 am
Any insight on Robert Storey '16 Private Reserve Black Label cab currently offered for $22.99? I'm looking for some $25-ish Napa cab but the description calls it "ultra ripe" and "fruit driven", which I fear might mean 'syrupy'...
Although Mr Jonathan Newman does not seem to be featured as often as he used to be on WTSO, unless something has changed, Robert Storey is a Jonathan Newman label.
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#485 Post by Albert R » October 4th, 2019, 6:56 pm

b. c@stner wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 6:35 pm
John Simpson wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 7:18 am
Any insight on Robert Storey '16 Private Reserve Black Label cab currently offered for $22.99? I'm looking for some $25-ish Napa cab but the description calls it "ultra ripe" and "fruit driven", which I fear might mean 'syrupy'...
Although Mr Jonathan Newman does not seem to be featured as often as he used to be on WTSO, unless something has changed, Robert Storey is a Jonathan Newman label.
I am glad Mr. Newman is no longer featured.
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#486 Post by John Glas » October 5th, 2019, 6:27 am

No tax to Florida from WTSO. Interesting that some like LB and others charge the tax and others don't.
Interesting how state to state taxes are so different. I believe in Florida you have no state tax? In MN we have no tax on clothing so that is why so many people fly in for a weekend to go to the Mall of America. They even have flights same day just for shopping. Don't know how much one is buying to make that worth it.

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#487 Post by Jim Marmion » October 5th, 2019, 6:30 am

I haven't noticed them adding on taxes for Tennessee yet, even though Last Bottle began this a few months back. It can only be a matter of time.

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#488 Post by John Glas » October 5th, 2019, 10:01 am

[quoI haven't noticed them adding on taxes for Tennessee yet, even though Last Bottle began this a few months back. It can only be a matter of time.te][/quote] Hopefully they don't go back and add taxes!

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#489 Post by Edward H. Earles » October 10th, 2019, 4:52 am

Did anyone bite on the Travaglini Gattinara 2009 yesterday? It looked like a great deal, but it's moratorium time for me, so I resisted.

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#490 Post by Steven Pumilia » October 10th, 2019, 5:16 am

Edward H. Earles wrote:
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Did anyone bite on the Travaglini Gattinara 2009 yesterday? It looked like a great deal, but it's moratorium time for me, so I resisted.
I did -- even though it mortorium time for me also!

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#491 Post by KevinK » October 14th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Just went deep on the Fallet-Dart Grande Sélection at $27 while sipping on some Kirkland Signature Champagne ($22, also very nice)...
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#492 Post by Michae1 P0wers » October 14th, 2019, 12:32 pm

KevinK wrote:
October 14th, 2019, 12:09 pm
Just went deep on the Fallet-Dart Grande Sélection at $27 while sipping on some Kirkland Signature Champagne ($22, also very nice)...
I'm eyeing that one as well. CT notes look quite positive. I've had better luck with WTSO Champagne than LB and other flash sites. They tend to find good Champagnes at attractive prices.

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#493 Post by John Glas » October 15th, 2019, 2:42 pm

Willamette Valley Pinot Noir 2015 Helioterra Wines
Seems like a good deal at $16.99.

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#494 Post by Jay $$ Winton » October 16th, 2019, 7:55 am

WTSO will do 2 day Fed Ex for $4 per bottle and they have done it for one bottle shipments.
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#495 Post by J a y H a c k » October 16th, 2019, 8:16 am

I just got my delivery of NV Charles Mignon Champagne. I have a business lunch today so I think I will bring it and report back.
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#496 Post by John Glas » October 16th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Just got a promo code for $5 off 4 bottle or more. Use Code: Premium

First time I have ever got a flyer in the mail from them.

Much respect for WTSO!!!

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#497 Post by John Glas » October 17th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Should have pulled the trigger on the Stangeland offer today.

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#498 Post by John Glas » October 24th, 2019, 2:59 pm

2017 Stangeland Pinot Noir Eola Hills Cuvee (USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley, Eola - Amity Hills) $15 a bottle with a promo code they mailed me. Said $5 off but got $8 off!

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#499 Post by Josh Grossman » October 24th, 2019, 3:59 pm

John Glas wrote:
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2017 Stangeland Pinot Noir Eola Hills Cuvee (USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley, Eola - Amity Hills) $15 a bottle with a promo code they mailed me. Said $5 off but got $8 off!
I went for four. Thanks for the code!

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#500 Post by John Glas » October 24th, 2019, 4:31 pm

I went for four. Thanks for the code!
Can't beat the free shipping plus a discount. Not looking to buy much online anymore with having to pay sales tax and shipping but WTSO works!

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