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#51 Post by Brian Tuite » June 2nd, 2013, 12:00 pm

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#52 Post by Dan Hammer » June 2nd, 2013, 12:47 pm

The most recent low score was HEDGES. pileon
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#53 Post by Richard Malloy » June 3rd, 2013, 7:43 am

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#54 Post by scott c » June 3rd, 2013, 8:53 am

1952 Jean Bourdy Côtes du Jura Rouge -- 82 points (from only two notes). This was an old bottle (alleged) domaine-direct release from Garagiste. If the wine is as bad as these two notes suggest, I will be very disappointed.
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#55 Post by Corey N. » June 3rd, 2013, 9:09 am

  • 2004 Loimer Riesling Langenloiser - Austria, Niederösterreich, Kamptal, Langenlois (10/20/2012)
    Pale yellow. Nice aromatics and a good amount of acid, but only a hint of fruit flavors, yet nothing else stands out. Clean tasting, but not really tasting much of anything. Methinks its past it's prime. (80 pts.)
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#56 Post by John Webber » June 3rd, 2013, 9:32 am

80 pts - 2005 Domaine Felettig Bourgogne Hautes Côtes de Nuits

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#57 Post by Ian P. » June 3rd, 2013, 10:07 am

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CT 87pts.

I was very surprised to see this as the lowest rated, I would assume there are only a couple of reviews so far.
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#58 Post by BJ Hamel » June 3rd, 2013, 10:50 am

Daniel Hall wrote:1989 Château Soucherie Coteaux du Layon CT avg 71.5 champagne.gif

I had a bottle of this about 18 months ago. It was fairly unpleasant when opened. After a few hours it was perhaps a bit
better but not really enjoyable. Most of the bottle was dumped. The Chaume bottling from 89 was quite good a few months
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#59 Post by David K o l i n » June 3rd, 2013, 11:38 am

1997 Rockford Basket Press Shraz at 82 points.

I didn't realize that it sucked this bad when I had it a couple of weeks ago.
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#60 Post by Corey N. » June 3rd, 2013, 11:39 am

^ Next time pay closer attention.
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#61 Post by Rich Byrne » June 3rd, 2013, 12:36 pm

2001 Mathern Niederhäuser Rosenberg Riesling Auslese 82.5 points. Only 4 ratings however.

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#62 Post by SteveC » June 3rd, 2013, 12:45 pm

Personally, unless I know the author and his or her tsates, I place very little emphasis on anyone's rating (CT or otherwise). For example, I trust Tanzer's 89pt rating on the '88 Clos de Lambrays, more than the CT 80 point rating. Both are wrong, but one will weigh my purchase more.

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#63 Post by bretrooks » June 5th, 2013, 1:18 pm

Rich Byrne wrote:2001 Mathern Niederhäuser Rosenberg Riesling Auslese 82.5 points. Only 4 ratings however.
I was the most recent one of those...bought it last summer at K&L. It's not offensive, but I'd recommend you think "sweet fruity beverage" more than "aged Auslese."

My lowest is 79 points (just two scores, plus my non-scored note): 2007 Tolo Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon. One note describes it as flavorless like colored water, but the one I opened was way different - dense, volatile, and not that cab-like, but far from flavorless. I have no idea what's going on there.

Just above that is an 80-point (two note) 2011 Paripaso Chardonnay which a relative bought for cooking, never used, and left at our place. We might cook with it in a pinch, and will I'm sure taste it out of curiosity, but I'm not expecting anything.
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#64 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 5th, 2013, 1:32 pm

2009 Centonze Nero d'Avola Sicilia IGT 85.9pts
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#65 Post by jdietz » June 5th, 2013, 1:33 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:2009 Centonze Nero d'Avola Sicilia IGT
How low is low?
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#66 Post by Joe B » June 5th, 2013, 1:48 pm

Once I realize which bottle has the lowest CT score, I either drink it or bring it to another persons house. Usually a person that does not care.
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#67 Post by Michae1 P0wers » June 5th, 2013, 2:12 pm

Juan Antonio Ponce, Clos Lojen 2010, a bobal from manchuela, purchased via a commerce corner deal. People hate it. I found it extremely simple but not, as one poster opined, that "it tasted like a$$." That is an exact quote by the way, down to the $$.

I found it to be not bad, in a simple carbonic fruity way. but then I proceeded to give other bottles away to people who don't care. The others may serve for Sangria or something.

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#68 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 5th, 2013, 2:53 pm

My inventory is sadly out of date, but 5 of the bottom 7 for me are Garagiste wines... Mylord at the bottom.
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#69 Post by Tom Henthorn » June 5th, 2013, 2:53 pm

1996 Rotllan Torra Priorat Amadis; Scored 82 (anonymously)

But then, there's this unscored note:

6/3/2005 - CLAUDIO_BXL WROTE:
Very good viscosity and a complex and refined nose of vainilla, licorice and a hint of animal aromas. In teh mouth it has very elegant, silky tannins, with good balance and long on red fruit, mineral and animal notes. Great wine

Unless this has fallen apart since 2005, it's great to be so looking forward to pulling the 'worst' wine in the cellar.

And thanks for this thread; I would likely have continued to overlook this single, hiding bottle.

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#70 Post by Randy Sloan » June 5th, 2013, 3:01 pm

I have plenty that have no score, but lowest...

2007 Sea Smoke Pinot Noir One Barrel 80 pts CT
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#71 Post by Nick Ryan » June 5th, 2013, 5:31 pm

Randy Sloan wrote:I have plenty that have no score, but lowest...

2007 Sea Smoke Pinot Noir One Barrel 80 pts CT
2003 Sloan 82.6 CT though I gave it a 73
The most recent note on the 2003 Sloan is quite hilarious:

12/28/2012 - NIAGARA WROTE: 65 Points
Literally the worst crap I have ever drunk. Hot as the innermost circle of hell, and what fruit there is, is a strange fruit that suggests that the grapes were macerated with a collection of old jockstraps. The only thing more disgusting than the wine was the price, and perhaps my self-loathing for paying it. And to the point of one recent reviewer, I've drunk a lot of Bordeaux (check my reviews), up and down the scale, and believe me I'm not falling over this wine, or for the increasingly absurd Mr. Parker's 96 point score, which (I hate to admit) is what led me to drop a lot of money for three bottles of this junk. Lesson learned. The 65 points is for the bottle, the label, and the cute little red wax seal stuck to the bottle, which I predict would, if chewed mindfully, taste better than the stuff inside.
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#72 Post by PaulJ » June 5th, 2013, 9:31 pm

80 points, no written review for Gaja Conteisa 2008.
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#73 Post by Jane Crabill » June 6th, 2013, 9:11 am

I wasn't sure how to search by points, but I do have on order 2010 Leoville Poyferre which received only 82 points from John Gilman (but in the 90's from IWC, Richard Jennings and almost 94 points as a CT average.
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#74 Post by T. Melloni » June 6th, 2013, 10:01 am

Since I don't drink wines under 90 points, I keep posting tasting notes with high scores for wines that are in my cellar so I that I can make sure the average score is above 90 points.
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#75 Post by AAgrawal » June 6th, 2013, 10:33 am

2005 Comte Armand Auxey Duresses 1er Cru - 82.3 pts. I haven't tried one, so I have no idea what to think. Only 3 reviews though. I wasn't going to open one for a few years.
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#76 Post by Russ Schultz » June 6th, 2013, 10:34 am

2010 Château Boswell Chardonnay The Voyage - 84 points. Really? Seems way to low.

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#77 Post by Nick Ryan » June 6th, 2013, 2:16 pm

Jane Crabill wrote:I wasn't sure how to search by points, but I do have on order 2010 Leoville Poyferre which received only 82 points from John Gilman (but in the 90's from IWC, Richard Jennings and almost 94 points as a CT average.
Sometimes I wonder why he bothers to review Bordeaux anymore, as he finds very little to like about the wines being made there these days.
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#78 Post by Corey N. » March 9th, 2017, 12:04 pm

Randomly came across this thread again...

The lowest rate wine in my cellar, per CT (and excluding wines where I am the only scorer) is the 2015 Domaine Bernard Baudry Chinon Les Granges.

I've had the wine twice and while I didn't rate it, I think it's a fair bit better than 85 points (assuming that the wine scored was using the conventional CT scoring system, where mediocrity garners 88 points).
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#79 Post by Michael Martin » March 9th, 2017, 12:09 pm

Who is the dumbass who created this thread? [snort.gif]

I have moved on from the Four Vines 80 pointer I originally posted about, but I now have a 2014 Erath Pinot that comes in at 84.6 and in reality should be far below that.

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#80 Post by Michae1 P0wers » March 9th, 2017, 12:11 pm

Nick Ryan wrote:
Jane Crabill wrote:I wasn't sure how to search by points, but I do have on order 2010 Leoville Poyferre which received only 82 points from John Gilman (but in the 90's from IWC, Richard Jennings and almost 94 points as a CT average.
Sometimes I wonder why he bothers to review Bordeaux anymore, as he finds very little to like about the wines being made there these days.
John is on here, and can likely defend himself on this count, but I think he just dislikes the very modern wines. For my part his tastes are useful because he points me to more obscure chateaux that I'd not otherwise find. I mean, even if you don't agree with his palate, it has to be nice to see a counterpoint right? Isn't it kind of silly to just have three or four critics with very similar tastes offering scores within a point or two of one another? Six 93-95 point scores with similar tasting notes is a great result if you're selling, but not that useful if you are considering a purchase IMO.

My lowest scored wine is a 2003 A-F Gros Pommard les Pezzeroles. My last tasting of this wine was not good at all. I don't score wines so my note isn't in the mix but it is carrying an 82 at the moment. If forced, I'd say that is about appropriate. I doubt it's the worst wine in my cellar though. That would probably go to something that was gifted or left at my house.

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#81 Post by Bdklein » March 9th, 2017, 12:24 pm

2013 Crane Lake Merlot 1.5L. Someone brought it to a holiday party we hosted in December.
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#82 Post by Greg D » March 9th, 2017, 12:50 pm

2014 Amici Cellars Chardonnay Olema CT 87.3
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#83 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » March 9th, 2017, 12:50 pm

Many without notes or scores, but I think the lowest is 80.5 for:

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#84 Post by Chris Foley » March 9th, 2017, 12:51 pm

2014 Chateau L'Oiseau, Bordeaux Superior - 83 pts.
I gave it an 86 because it improved on the second day.
The one other reviewer gave it an 80 with a decent note.
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#85 Post by etomasi » March 9th, 2017, 1:02 pm

2013 Red Tail Ridge Winery Miscreant RTR Vineyard 80.5.

Its brought down because it is a skin-contact wine, with a slightly oxidative character so its not "easy". Actually really neat wine. Three notes, two scores. One person gave it a 70, another a 91. The third note was very positive but no score. I didnt score it when I tasted it, but I would have been a lot closer to the 91.
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#86 Post by BrianMarshall » March 9th, 2017, 1:10 pm

I've got an '05 JM Bouley Clos de Chenes that has an 83, which sounds about right based on the bottle that I opened. Next up is a 2015 Baudry Chinon Les Granges with an 85, which I find laughable, despite the warm summer.
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#87 Post by AndrewH » March 9th, 2017, 1:30 pm

2004 Ernesto Catena Syrah Siesta en el Tahuantinsuyu

Comes in at an 82. I'm holding one of the last three in any CT member's cellars!
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#88 Post by dsGriswold » March 9th, 2017, 2:03 pm

2015 McKinlay Pinot Noir Willamette Valley 82 points
I have not tasted mine yet, but would probably rate a bit higher as I like their wines which are toward the AFWE style which may not appeal to others as much as they do to me.
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#89 Post by Matt Latuchie » March 9th, 2017, 2:11 pm

2000 Louis Jadot Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Estournelles-St.-Jacques 87.2pts
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#90 Post by Michael O'Brien » March 9th, 2017, 2:37 pm

With more than one tasting note and score - 2012 Château Doisy-Védrines Sauternes, 89.1
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#91 Post by Ian Sutton » March 9th, 2017, 3:33 pm

I'll forego the usual grumble about the futility of points, in general and on CT.

I did however raise a wry smile when I check CT. The lowest wine is a lighter but tannic wine, that I find quite appetising, but I can easily see how people would dislike it. Similarly I suppose, next from the bottom was a wine I really have a strong affinity for, Chateau Lamartine Cahors (standard bottling, not the cheaper Benjamin, nor the more expensive cuvees). Again a wine with plenty of grip and fruit that is bright but not bold. With a decade or more on them, I really find these wines appetising.

This latter one does especially reinforce my grumpiness about scoring.
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#92 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » March 9th, 2017, 4:01 pm

  • 2011 Cakebread Cellars Syrah - USA, California, Napa Valley (12/14/2013)
    A friend brought this over for dinner. It was awful - nose and taste was smoky with a bite on the back end (this was not tainted - had just delivered through friend's wine club). At $50, it's an embarrassment that Cakebread is selling this wine at this price. POOR. (75 pts.)
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#93 Post by PaulMills » March 9th, 2017, 5:46 pm

My lowest is 2012 Maison Ilan Morey St. Denis 1er Cru Les Chaffots at 83.5

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#94 Post by Jeff Cassetta » March 9th, 2017, 7:09 pm

2010 Bernard Dugat-Py Vosne-Romanée Vieilles Vignes 80 points

Apparently the wine is dead...

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#95 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 9th, 2017, 7:15 pm

2013 Domaine Guion Bourgueil Cuvée Prestige
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#96 Post by Joe S. » March 9th, 2017, 7:45 pm

As previously mentioned, many unscored due to young age, etc.

Two lowest CT scored wines:

2012 Pax Syrah Griffin's Lair - 83 score, 6 notes, 3 scores; this will be better than that
2005 Château du Grand Bol - 85.9 score, 7 notes, 7 scores; this I trust and scores increasing with age.
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#97 Post by Bob Agler » March 9th, 2017, 8:28 pm

My wine with the lowest average CT rating is the Brezza Barolo Cannubi. Pretty bleak assessment:

84 - "Had this wine as a experiment to see if a 2010 (great vintage), Cannubi (great vineyard) is the receipt to do a great wine. It's not."

I haven't tried any of my 4 bottles yet.

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#98 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » March 9th, 2017, 8:40 pm

Joe S. wrote:2012 Pax Syrah Griffin's Lair - 83 score, 6 notes, 3 scores
Crap, I have 2 bottles of this. May have to save for Christmas gifts. [snort.gif]
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#99 Post by Eric S n y d e r » March 9th, 2017, 9:02 pm

Not too bad... Shebang! Ninth Cuvee red blend NV rated at 87.4. I rated 88.

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#100 Post by IlkkaL » March 9th, 2017, 9:42 pm

2014 Ferdinando Principiano Langhe Nebbiolo Le Coste CT84 without a note. As the picture on the page shows a completely different wine (2014 Langhe Rosso) I am not sure how trustworthy rating this is. This happens every now and then on CT that I am left wondering whether a score/note is for the right wine indeed.

The second place is a three-way tie (CT86) between 2011 P. Dubreuil-Fontaine Père & Fils Volnay, 2015 Schloss Johannisberg Riesling Gelblack trocken and 2013 Domaine Michel Briday Rully 1er Cru Gresigny. No idea about the others but I am quite sure I am gonna get plenty enjoyment out of the Volnay.
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