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#1 Post by Peter Baird » May 11th, 2013, 3:22 pm

Nice weekend Burg to celebrate the night before Mother's Day with my lovely wife.
  • 2002 Prince Florent de Merode Corton-Bressandes - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton Grand Cru (5/11/2013)
    Fairly youthful red tone. Nicely complex aromas, ripe but restrained red fruit and floral notes, balanced by a healthy dose of earthiness. Great balance on the palate, plenty of ripe red fruits but elegant, fine structure, restrained by earth, light tannin and ample acid. Long, clean red fruit and anise finish. Fully mature and ready to drink, though it will go for several years with its nice balance. (91 pts.)
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#2 Post by Kirk.Grant » April 27th, 2015, 5:25 pm

Very exciting to find this note...thank you. I just snagged two of these last night off winebid.com
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#3 Post by G. Bienstock » April 27th, 2015, 6:04 pm

I have been reluctant to open my 95's as it was very closed in about 2004.
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#4 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » April 28th, 2015, 11:51 am

Serious question, Peter.....what do you mean when you write " fully mature and ready to drink".

Do you believe that the two are the same ("mature" and "ready")? And, when you say "fully" do you mean that it won't improve, in your view?

I am trying to understand what you wrote/think...on a wine I know well, from a vintage I think is as good as any except 2005..maybe..not bust your chops.

It does surprise me that a 2002 Corton could be "fully mature", maybe even "ready to drink".....but I am curious.

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#5 Post by Jay Miller » April 28th, 2015, 11:56 am

G. Bienstock wrote:I have been reluctant to open my 95's as it was very closed in about 2004.
That's my experience of '95s in general around now.
Ripe fruit isn't necessarily a flaw.

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#6 Post by G. Bienstock » April 28th, 2015, 12:11 pm

Thanks Jay I will continue to sit on 95's.
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#7 Post by Kirk.Grant » February 11th, 2019, 6:09 pm

  • 2002 Prince Florent de Merode Corton-Bressandes - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton Grand Cru (2/10/2019)
    This was opened about 90 minutes before the dinner. Decanted for sediment in a carafe-shaped decanter and served in Riedel Grand Cru Burgundy glasses. There is a ruby core and initially there was little if any aromatics and an almost singular note of cherry on the palate; I could see this easily being interpreted as simplistic without the time to open in the decanter. After some time scents of wilted roses, earth, wild strawberry, and hints that remind me of an old antique store. The palate is soft and lovely yet still framed by acidity that seems as if there is the structure to carry this wine another 3+ decades. Secondary fruit notes seem to be forming at this stage in the wines life as there's some hints at something like dried strawberries or a dehydrated orange peel initially with a finish that seems to have shifted to younger fruit as fresh raspberries linger along the long finish. An outstanding and lovely vision of Corton.
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#8 Post by alan weinberg » February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm

echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”

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#9 Post by Marcu$ Stanley » February 12th, 2019, 3:45 am

alan weinberg wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm
echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”
so you would seriously say that, for example, no one older than their early 40s should ever buy a current release Corton?

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#10 Post by Kirk.Grant » February 12th, 2019, 5:24 am

alan weinberg wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm
echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”
Alan,

For me this wasn't where I'd really want it to be. There was some secondary notes (or better put, scents that I identify as coming from an aged wine). As you've noted; Florent de Merode was never considered a top-tier producer. I paid $33 for a '98 Corton from them in 2006. However, I am glad to have opened this a few nights ago and it did scratch the Burgundy itch and pair beautifully with the Mushroom ravioli we had. If this is the level of quality in the 2005's I have I'll be happy when I open one again in another decade or two.
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#11 Post by Kirk.Grant » February 12th, 2019, 5:26 am

Marcu$ Stanley wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 3:45 am
alan weinberg wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm
echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”
so you would seriously say that, for example, no one older than their early 40s should ever buy a current release Corton?
I wouldn't say that (although I'm 42 and still buying Corton). I think they're extremely enjoyable in their youth. I think for me, I'd say that when I'm 50-60 I'll only drink new release Cortons (if I can still justify the cost).
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#12 Post by alan weinberg » February 12th, 2019, 7:43 am

Marcu$ Stanley wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 3:45 am
alan weinberg wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm
echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”
so you would seriously say that, for example, no one older than their early 40s should ever buy a current release Corton?
I can only speak for myself but because I like 20 year old reds—and 30+ for Corton—I stopped at 2005 when I faced actuarial realities. I think Corton is the slowest to mature, even slower than Bonnes Mares and, if you like mature red Burgs, one needs to think about maturity curves—of the wine and the buyer.

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#13 Post by Joshua Kates » February 12th, 2019, 9:32 am

alan weinberg wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 7:43 am
Marcu$ Stanley wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 3:45 am
alan weinberg wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 6:23 pm
echoing Stuart, I’ve never had a mature Corton under 30 years old. Florent de Merode isn’t top drawer so maybe it’s a lighter style and is “ready.”
so you would seriously say that, for example, no one older than their early 40s should ever buy a current release Corton?
I can only speak for myself but because I like 20 year old reds—and 30+ for Corton—I stopped at 2005 when I faced actuarial realities. I think Corton is the slowest to mature, even slower than Bonnes Mares and, if you like mature red Burgs, one needs to think about maturity curves—of the wine and the buyer.
Of course, can't argue with anything Alan says, but I would add, in my more limited experience, things do vary with vineyard and producer. Corton Renardes, Pougets, or Les Combes, sometimes drink a little younger, and I've had some 99 Corton from Follin Arbelet, which I thought were in the zone, whereas most of the other '99 Red Burgundies I have tried have seemed not ready. That said, I have some of this same bottling from '08 and I won't be going near it any time soon.

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