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#1 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 6:04 am

The force is already strong, and recent threads on Baudry, Texier and multiple Burgundies have the buying urge gaining in strength.

Last resort is to turn to the enablers - but to enable restraint!

With the cellar jam packed and multiple cases recently sent off to offsite (and still about 4 more cases pending) it's time to put the brakes on acquisition.

First goal is to get to June 1. After that it gets easier for a bit due to summer temps.
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#2 Post by Joe B » March 25th, 2013, 6:24 am

Oh please. I need more help then you do. The more you buy the less product left for me.

Help. Help.
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#3 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 10:57 am

No. No. No. I started this thread, so you buy first! [wink.gif]
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#4 Post by Chris Seiber » March 25th, 2013, 11:08 am

I meant it just for humor and atmosphere, not politics, but I will happily redact.
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#5 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 11:21 am

You turned this political why?
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#6 Post by Fred C » March 25th, 2013, 11:27 am

David M. Bueker wrote: First goal is to get to June 1. After that it gets easier for a bit due to summer temps.
[rofl.gif]

Good luck with that one.

Must be like the flu or something. Seems to be going around. With taxes due right around the corner no less.

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#7 Post by Chris Seiber » March 25th, 2013, 11:33 am

I too struggle badly with overbuying - David's story above sounds just like my situation.

Honestly, the #1 thing I could do to cut down on it would be to stop reading this board, because my burning desire to keep exploring the world of wine is constantly stoked by reading about producers, wines, bargains and so forth on here.

The other main thing -- deactivating my winebid.com account -- I already did last fall, and that has helped some. The next thing I really need to do is to pare down the number of mailing lists, but I've been very weak when it comes to this so far.

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#8 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 11:37 am

So far I have passed on Rhys (that one hurt), Anthill (ditto) and Wind Gap (again...oof) in the last 45 days. I did buy Arnot-Roberts, but counted 3 out of 4 as a big victory.
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#9 Post by Danius Barzdukas » March 25th, 2013, 11:48 am

Don't people here have budgets? Or does everyone on WB have unlimited funds? [scratch.gif]

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#10 Post by Chris Seiber » March 25th, 2013, 11:54 am

Another suggestion I read once is to give yourself a mandatory cooling-off period (I promise, no political humor this time). If you see a good price online for some new Baudry or whatever, before you click "buy," force yourself to wait 24 or 48 hours.

Often, after the initial rush of excitement and discovery that drove you there in the first place, you'll realize that you really don't need another case of wine and/or to spend hundreds of more dollars. Occasionally, the wine will have sold through before you come back. Either way, you've avoided the purchase.

I remember when I'd bid on something on winebid, and then (only occasionally, unfortunately) I'd discover on Monday that I was outbid, I was more often relieved than disappointed. In essence, I'd had the fun of finding the wine and trying to buy it, without ending up spending the money and further overtaxing my storage.

Anyway, that's just one suggestion I've received and tried, in case it is of any use to you or anyone else. I suspect most people don't like to admit their excesses about buying and storage, since this is a real names board and people can tend to be protective of their image, but I imagine many who are reading this thread battle those issues.

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#11 Post by rachel mcdonald » March 25th, 2013, 12:21 pm

Danius Barzdukas wrote:Don't people here have budgets? Or does everyone on WB have unlimited funds? [scratch.gif]
I think most of us have budgets, but most of us are also good at ignoring them or finding ways to redirect funds from other budget areas over to wine. (If I purchase a few bottles of something at the grocery store, it should get classified as food and not as wine, right?)

Spending less time on this board does help me spend less on wine, but spending more on wine also helps me spend less on shoes. And having shoes you haven't worn is more of a problem than wine you haven't drunk, right?

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#12 Post by Poppy Davis » March 25th, 2013, 12:28 pm

Try buying a house and then getting pregnant. Trust me... you'll stop buying wine!
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#13 Post by Joe B » March 25th, 2013, 12:38 pm

Man, I don't even buy new clothes anymore until the one set I'm wearing falls off as lint.
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#14 Post by Danius Barzdukas » March 25th, 2013, 12:53 pm

rachel mcdonald wrote:I think most of us have budgets, but most of us are also good at ignoring them or finding ways to redirect funds from other budget areas over to wine. (If I purchase a few bottles of something at the grocery store, it should get classified as food and not as wine, right?)

Spending less time on this board does help me spend less on wine, but spending more on wine also helps me spend less on shoes. And having shoes you haven't worn is more of a problem than wine you haven't drunk, right?

Yes, I play the budget justifying shell game as well. At some point economics does put an end to it though. I just assume everyone hits the economic brake before the desire for more wine abates. With the shoes, I suppose I am lucky in one sense that two passions don't battle each other, but I let my wife's purchase of shoes, et.al. justify more wine purchases, and she does the same in reverse. MAD I suppose...

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#15 Post by c fu » March 25th, 2013, 1:01 pm

Poppy Davis wrote:Try buying a house and then getting pregnant. Trust me... you'll stop buying wine!
i tried, but God didn't put the right parts in my body [snort.gif]
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#16 Post by M. Dildine » March 25th, 2013, 1:13 pm

The only effective limiting factor for me has been to refuse to go to offsite storage.
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#17 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 1:36 pm

Yeah, the offsite storage irritates me. My goal over the next year is to reduce inventory to get it all back home.

I do have a budget. What I do not have is space or the capacity to consume everything I have been buying.
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#18 Post by Ken V » March 25th, 2013, 1:49 pm

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Poppy Davis wrote:Try buying a house and then getting pregnant. Trust me... you'll stop buying wine!
i tried, but God didn't put the right parts in my body [snort.gif]
Have you figured out yet how to put the right part into her body? [shrug.gif]
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#19 Post by Joe Hauck » March 25th, 2013, 1:51 pm

Drink more beer!!
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#20 Post by Joe B » March 25th, 2013, 1:52 pm

Buy less bottles but more expensive ones.

Just trying to help.
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#21 Post by c fu » March 25th, 2013, 1:57 pm

Ken V wrote:
Charlie Fu wrote:
Poppy Davis wrote:Try buying a house and then getting pregnant. Trust me... you'll stop buying wine!
i tried, but God didn't put the right parts in my body [snort.gif]
Have you figured out yet how to put the right part into her body? [shrug.gif]
well poppy said to try getting pregnant. I personally am having trouble getting pregnant. [snort.gif]
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#22 Post by Fred C » March 25th, 2013, 2:00 pm

Joe B wrote:Buy less bottles but more expensive ones.

Just trying to help.
I'm now on this path. I have no doubt this will not help.
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#23 Post by Joe B » March 25th, 2013, 2:06 pm

I've been doing it and I find now that I don't have the proper occasion to open them up. And I'm not drinking them with my $10 take out Chinese dinner.
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#24 Post by Nate Simon » March 25th, 2013, 2:32 pm

Fred C wrote:
Joe B wrote:Buy less bottles but more expensive ones.

Just trying to help.
I'm now on this path. I have no doubt this will not help.

Somehow, I doubt that the spouse would embrace the logic. "See, honey, I'm not buying a lot of wine, just expensive wine!"

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#25 Post by Fred C » March 25th, 2013, 2:37 pm

Nate Simon wrote:
Fred C wrote:
Joe B wrote:Buy less bottles but more expensive ones.

Just trying to help.
I'm now on this path. I have no doubt this will not help.

Somehow, I doubt that the spouse would embrace the logic. "See, honey, I'm not buying a lot of wine, just expensive wine!"
That's why I don't have one of those things... champagne.gif
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#26 Post by Jim Brennan » March 25th, 2013, 2:55 pm

David, we're praying for you.

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#27 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » March 25th, 2013, 3:05 pm

Enablers central, here.

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#28 Post by Richard T r i m p i » March 25th, 2013, 3:34 pm

Poppy, excellent Bob Wood photo.

David. Don't worry about getting pregnant, just go for the bigger house. There's always the Nancy Reagan solution.

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#29 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 25th, 2013, 3:56 pm

M. Dildine wrote:The only effective limiting factor for me has been to refuse to go to offsite storage.
I was just at my off-site storage. There was a newly-emptied locker right next to one of mine. It looked real nice. So lonely, too, all empty and stuff like that with no lock to keep it secure and safe . . . .

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#30 Post by Joe B » March 25th, 2013, 4:17 pm

Nate Simon wrote:
Fred C wrote:
Joe B wrote:Buy less bottles but more expensive ones.

Just trying to help.
I'm now on this path. I have no doubt this will not help.

Somehow, I doubt that the spouse would embrace the logic. "See, honey, I'm not buying a lot of wine, just expensive wine!"
Im a widower but im in the market for more control in my life.
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#31 Post by Dave H. » March 25th, 2013, 4:30 pm

I have to constantly remind myself that there will always be another vintage of the century, another blockbuster bottle of xxx that I just have to try, and another cutting-edge, rising producer that I simply must taste to understand what's going on.
I'm not a major league collector like a lot of folks here, but I already have more wine than I "need," whatever that means.
What I do need is a perpetual, personal reminder that I buy wine because I want to drink it with my wife and select friends, not because I'm working on a collection to one day pass down to my 3 month old son.
But yes, restraint is hard.
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#32 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 5:25 pm

No kids here, so all the more reason to eventually exercise restraint. The cats only drink recent vintage milk.
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#33 Post by Scott Zimmermann » March 25th, 2013, 6:06 pm

This last wave (as in tidal) of shipments has finally put me on tilt. I have a large pre-fab walk-in unit at home and now I am finding myself needing outside commercial storage (with wine still in the garage that needs to be properly stored). My "undoing" is principally the result of:

1. Abandoning a bunch of lists, but buying more wine than that through other sources, e.g., emails from brokers. Also I bought interesting wines discussed on WB, e.g., Ceritas, Greer, Pott, etc. (which I don't regret, but which still add to the bottle count).

2. Purchasing less expensive wine, but at the same time buying a lot more bottles--adding to my bottle count (and am feeling the pressure of needing to drink up these wines because they aren't built for the long haul).

So things sort of snuck up on me--incrementally. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

I am now going to revert back to buying fewer but (o average) more expensive bottles. I realize that this won't "save" me any money, but I'll be able drink off things that need drinking in short term and not feel so swamped with wine.

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#34 Post by todd waldmann » March 25th, 2013, 6:22 pm

I think it's come to a head for me. Tracking email today from s single unnamed retailer: 27 packages. 1,051 lbs. That's the second biggest shipment this Spring....
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#35 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 25th, 2013, 6:24 pm

Todd-did you buy an elephant from IKEA?
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#36 Post by Peter Kleban » March 25th, 2013, 6:33 pm

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#37 Post by Ken V » March 25th, 2013, 6:57 pm

Charlie Fu wrote:
Ken V wrote:
Charlie Fu wrote:i tried, but God didn't put the right parts in my body [snort.gif]
Have you figured out yet how to put the right part into her body? [shrug.gif]
well poppy said to try getting pregnant. I personally am having trouble getting pregnant. [snort.gif]
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#38 Post by todd waldmann » March 25th, 2013, 7:18 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Todd-did you buy an elephant from IKEA?

I am dreading the assembly.
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#39 Post by Adam F. » March 25th, 2013, 7:55 pm

I have experienced the same difficulties. While I have tried the budget and increasing my price point to slow down my purchases, I have discovered that all of the wonderful information is almost too much and my purchasing has not really slowed down. Instead, our everyday drinking wine is of better quality and I use the server room at work for my overflow wine. The standing joke is that people will take it out of the sever room and I won't know. Too bad for them, I have that inventoried as well.
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#40 Post by Alan Rath » March 25th, 2013, 8:59 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:I was just at my off-site storage. There was a newly-emptied locker right next to one of mine.
One of yours? You thought we'd miss that, didn't you? ;)

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#41 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 26th, 2013, 4:17 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:The force is already strong, and recent threads on Baudry, Texier and multiple Burgundies have the buying urge gaining in strength.

Last resort is to turn to the enablers - but to enable restraint!

With the cellar jam packed and multiple cases recently sent off to offsite (and still about 4 more cases pending) it's time to put the brakes on acquisition.

First goal is to get to June 1. After that it gets easier for a bit due to summer temps.
IT IS OFFICIAL. I DID THE COUNTING.

As of today, I am out of the blocks hard for the year. I have bought more cases of wine this first quarter than any other quarter in my 20 years of wine buying! WTF. No rhyme or reason, perhaps just less cycling so more interest in wine as I sit my phat butt around the house. The goods news is, perhaps my buying correlates with two very strong years in the regions I focus on, Norther Rhone, Loire and Bordeaux, 2009 and 2010, and the 2011 and 2012 vintages in these regions do not seem to be equivalent. So perhaps I will get a break after I stock up. Just bought more stuff today. Ugh.

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