Some of us from the old CompuServe Wine Forum have long felt that the reason for the move to Netscape (as opposed to many other available options at the time) was done as a parting shot at Jim Kronman. It's why you don't see us on WLDG today.Dale Williams wrote:Don’t think so, Robin had no affiliation for years at that point. I think basically the old proprietary WLDG software (with threaded discussion!) was not set up to require registering to post. A shall we say deranged poster (who posted here for a while, but I haven’t seen since he got some bad publicity in his hometown) starting posting weird stuff, and when some got deleted he went on manic posting sprees, posting hundreds of messages a night re the FBI investigating, accused people of child porn, etc. Volunteer moderators were taking overnight shifts just deleting posts. So Robin moved the forum to Netscape wine forum out of exhaustion. Which lowered number of people. I guess that forum still exists, but Robin then reformed WLDG on his own site using phpBB. That is the current WLDG (which I enjoy posting on, though it is a much smaller community than the old WLDG).
Loren, I went to one Elliot Apter event in Chicago, held in his hotel suite after a TCWC Bordeaux vintage debut dinner. Yeah, those were the days...it's not often you get the opportunity to talk to Paul Pontellier one-on-one while drinking '53 Margaux, and '27 and '48 Taylor port.loren.grossman wrote:Yup. I was in the compuserve wine community and the AOL wine community (with Mark Horvatich and others - Mark I think I still have some of that Summit Lake Emily Kestrel 1992 that you recommended way back when - the tannins are STILL no ready ). Mark - not sure if you ever went to the Elliot Apter offlines - those were the days. No idea where Elliot ended up. But the tastings were epic. I think that is when Adam Lee was just getting started with Siduri as well - it was fun meeting Adam in person back in the day when the Lees were just starting out on their own (mid 90s).
I still own a couple bottles of the '92 Emily Kestrel, though I haven't opened one in more than 10 years. I also still have a couple cases of White Cottage wines from the mid-90s...the last one I opened ('93 cab) was fabulous! I also recently opened my last bottle of '95 Coffaro Estate Cuvee...also fabulous, and BY FAR the best wine of Dave's I've ever tasted.
I haven't spoken with Adam, or pretty much anyone in Napa/Sonoma, in the past few years. My interest in wine has diminished considerably as my life has taken a different direction. And yes, it was a lot of fun meeting so many people who were just getting their start. My first visit with Adam was back in the fall of '94 when he was working for Lambert Bridge. After tasting through the L-B wines, he introduced us to another L-B employee named Dianna Novy, and they said they had new project called Siduri. We tried barrel samples of the '94 Rose pinot, and so it began...
I should add that most of Adam and Dianna's Oregon pinots have aged extremely well. I'll also add that in the past three months, I've had four bottles of '99 Christian David that were all outstanding.