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#101 Post by MarkH » March 10th, 2012, 12:29 pm

Brad Kane wrote:Sure wish Yaniger still posted on wine.
His Three Stooges wine rating system deserves mention in this topic. Giving wines ratings such as "Triple Larry" and "Moe Double Curley" was brilliant!

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#102 Post by Brad Kane » March 10th, 2012, 12:35 pm

Plus, there's his unforgettable description of the '93 Overnoy- Arbois Pupillon, which, imo, was dead on.
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#103 Post by Ron Kramer » March 10th, 2012, 12:52 pm

And a thank you Stuart who taught me all thing Musar and the morels that grow in my lawn.
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#104 Post by Tom Reddick » March 10th, 2012, 3:34 pm

Ron Kramer wrote:And a thank you Stuart who taught me all thing Musar and the morels that grow in my lawn.
I hope to get out to Austin to see him soon.
He lives here in Austin, Texas now? That would be cool!
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#105 Post by Tom Reddick » March 10th, 2012, 3:36 pm

Oh and more generally with reference to the tone of the last page or two, for those who find it a bit unsettling and are newer to the online wine world- it is still only about halfway down the path of how fun and crazy things got on older boards in days of less or zero moderation.
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#106 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 10th, 2012, 3:55 pm

Tom Reddick wrote:Oh and more generally with reference to the tone of the last page or two, for those who find it a bit unsettling and are newer to the online wine world- it is still only about halfway down the path of how fun and crazy things got on older boards in days of less or zero moderation.
It actually makes a lot of sense that a history of wine forums would get a bit contentious, as so many of the changes were really schisms where a group of folks either left or were forced out of one forum and statrted another. The community has grown and changed through comment and conflict.
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#107 Post by Bob Foster » March 10th, 2012, 4:37 pm

Bob Wood wrote: "That said, I didn't create Roberto's alter ego and I was never awake at 3AM - nor was I ever moronic enough to do something as stupid and glaringly obvious as you describe."

I stand by by comment. I was there. I saw it happen.
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#108 Post by Bob Foster » March 10th, 2012, 4:43 pm

Somewhere in this thread we need to remember the late Iris Iles. Regular *P* poster, loved burgs, great whit. I still miss her.
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#109 Post by Craig G » March 10th, 2012, 5:02 pm

Todd, could you ban Serge at least once, just for old time's sake?
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#110 Post by Bob Wood » March 10th, 2012, 7:02 pm

Bob Foster wrote:Bob Wood wrote: "That said, I didn't create Roberto's alter ego and I was never awake at 3AM - nor was I ever moronic enough to do something as stupid and glaringly obvious as you describe."

I stand by by comment. I was there. I saw it happen.
Hence why we'll never get along and never have. You and the truth have a very tenuous relationship, which I suppose is an excellent quality in a prosecutor.
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#111 Post by Ken V » March 10th, 2012, 7:39 pm

Brad Kane wrote:
Mark_H wrote:
Brad Kane wrote:Sure wish Yaniger still posted on wine.
His Three Stooges wine rating system deserves mention in this topic. Giving wines ratings such as "Triple Larry" and "Moe Double Curley" was brilliant!

Agreed. Genius.

Plus, there's his unforgettable description of the '93 Overnoy- Arbois Pupillon, which, imo, was dead on.
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#112 Post by Mike Cohen » March 10th, 2012, 9:31 pm

Great thread...I started with the WS boards and quickly moved to the WCWN boards where Charles Smith organized a NYC offline around 1994/1995 California Cabs. This was followed a month later by a New World/Old World Pinot-thon. Between these two off lines I met Charles Smith, Michael Moriarty, Asher Rubinstein, Brad Trent, Spencer Jesner, Michael Kulper, Paul Jaouen, and many others. I split time at WCWN and WLDG. My first WLDG offline featured Brad Kane saying to 20+ people that the wine that I brought felt like "ants were biting his tongue" :) Took a brief spin around Wine Therapy. Moved over to Squires and then eBob. Came here when eBob was deteriorating. Been here ever since. Good times. I will say that I have met many people who I consider life long friends through these boards. Will also say that I've witness some truly bizarre behavior on the wine boards too.

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#113 Post by Brad Kane » March 10th, 2012, 10:03 pm

Mike Cohen wrote:My first WLDG offline featured Brad Kane saying to 20+ people that the wine that I brought felt like "ants were biting his tongue" :)
You'd be surprised how many people I say that to... or maybe not. [wink.gif]

I always enjoyed it when you, Asher, Len and Moriarity stopped by Garnet back in the day.

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#114 Post by Bob Foster » March 10th, 2012, 10:56 pm

Bob Wood wrote "You and the truth have a very tenuous relationship, which I suppose is an excellent quality in a prosecutor."

You continually refuse to admit the full extent of your antics. No wonder so many of the folks on this board, who have seen you in action for a few years, know what I have said has the clear ring of truth. But of course you can't admit it-it is beyond your abilities. [snort.gif]
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#115 Post by Bob Wood » March 10th, 2012, 11:04 pm

Bob Foster wrote:Bob Wood wrote "You and the truth have a very tenuous relationship, which I suppose is an excellent quality in a prosecutor."

You continually refuse to admit the full extent of your antics. No wonder so many of the folks on this board, who have seen you in action for a few years, know what I have said has the clear ring of truth. But of course you can't admit it-it is beyond your abilities. [snort.gif]
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#116 Post by Bob Foster » March 10th, 2012, 11:07 pm

"freely admit"????????????????


I love it. Funniest line in months. You've made my day!
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#117 Post by c fu » March 10th, 2012, 11:55 pm

Can someone just rename this subject line to old guys arguing about stuff that happened when it would take 45 minutes for a jpg of porn to download. [snort.gif]
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#118 Post by Jonathan Loesberg » March 11th, 2012, 6:17 am

The claim that you deleted the archives of Wine Therapy may, for all I know, be incorrect. But your comportment here sufficiently shows that it is not absurd.

I find two versions of the Napoleon quote:
1) N'interrompez jamais un ennemi qui est en train de faire une erreur.
2) Ne jamais interrompre votre ennemi quand il fait une erreur.

There are probably other slight variations. Not knowing the source, l can't be sure of the original wording.

But it's good advice and I will henceforth follow it.

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#119 Post by Mike Cohen » March 11th, 2012, 6:43 am

Serge Birbrair wrote:
Jonathan Loesberg wrote: "what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?"
That's a bullshit question! [rofl.gif]

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#120 Post by Eric White » March 11th, 2012, 8:09 am

John S wrote:For my part this is pretty much sequential. I missed the prodigy days.

alt.food.wine (usenet)
winespectator forums
Robin Garr's winelovers
Brad Harrington's West Coast Wine
Squires Board
Parker Board
Berserkers

I've seen the same herd move so many times it it like watching the great migration on the serengeti.
+1 except replace WCW with Vinocellar. The A.F.W. days were pretty fun :)

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#121 Post by Ken V » March 11th, 2012, 8:14 am

Hey Todd, remember my poll on "Whom do you have on Ignore?"



This thread might just be an even worse idea! [stirthepothal.gif]
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#122 Post by Todd F r e n c h » March 11th, 2012, 8:32 am

Folks - do you mind having your arguments via private message?

And Serge, before you place your halo atop your head and state that you've offered to take it via PM but it has fallen on deaf ears...you can simply use the button for Private Messages, write to your buddies there, and refuse to address them in this thread. Same goes for those who feel they need to use the thread as a soapbox for arguing. Let's keep this somewhat on topic, please.
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#123 Post by Nancy Dolce » March 11th, 2012, 11:03 am

Thank you, Todd!
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#124 Post by Cris Whetstone » March 11th, 2012, 1:49 pm

Needless personal exchange deleted. Warnings sent. Yadda yadda.
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#125 Post by M. Dildine » March 11th, 2012, 2:07 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Folks - do you mind having your arguments via private message?

And Serge, before you place your halo atop your head and state that you've offered to take it via PM but it has fallen on deaf ears...you can simply use the button for Private Messages, write to your buddies there, and refuse to address them in this thread. Same goes for those who feel they need to use the thread as a soapbox for arguing. Let's keep this somewhat on topic, please.
Much of the relevant history of "Wine Forums and Social Networking" is encapsulated in the above post! [cheers.gif]
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#126 Post by MarkH » March 11th, 2012, 2:49 pm

M. Dildine wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Folks - do you mind having your arguments via private message?

And Serge, before you place your halo atop your head and state that you've offered to take it via PM but it has fallen on deaf ears...you can simply use the button for Private Messages, write to your buddies there, and refuse to address them in this thread. Same goes for those who feel they need to use the thread as a soapbox for arguing. Let's keep this somewhat on topic, please.
Much of the relevant history of "Wine Forums and Social Networking" is encapsulated in the above post! [cheers.gif]
A quick search through Google Groups brought up this blast from the past:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food ... c038cc970c

It's tame compared to a few others I found...

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#127 Post by Tom Reddick » March 11th, 2012, 6:44 pm

M. Dildine wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Folks - do you mind having your arguments via private message?

And Serge, before you place your halo atop your head and state that you've offered to take it via PM but it has fallen on deaf ears...you can simply use the button for Private Messages, write to your buddies there, and refuse to address them in this thread. Same goes for those who feel they need to use the thread as a soapbox for arguing. Let's keep this somewhat on topic, please.
Much of the relevant history of "Wine Forums and Social Networking" is encapsulated in the above post! [cheers.gif]
A quick search through Google Groups brought up this blast from the past:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food ... c038cc970c

It's tame compared to a few others I found...
Wow- reading that really took me back. I was sitting in my room in the fraternity house on my first computer when I wrote the first post in that string you linked (and happier still today to look back and see I did not get into the personal drama that ensued...)
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#128 Post by Roberto Rogness » March 11th, 2012, 7:05 pm

That is indeed the vinous equivalent of the Dead Sea scrolls...

My favorite quote so far:

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#129 Post by Bob Foster » March 11th, 2012, 7:36 pm

My favorite Mark Squires quote to me "You questioned (Parker's) ethics, his competence, everything about him, and always
in the most condescending, insulting tone possible. " Amazing how angry he can get. Typical Squires rewriting history.

It is too bad there is no searchable record of the *P* discussions. When Ms. McCoy was writing her book on Parker she told me that she discovered that *P* (or whoever owns it now) had room after room of tapes of all the activity on all the boards but there was no index, no way to search it.
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#130 Post by Ron Kramer » March 11th, 2012, 7:57 pm

Much of the relevant history of "Wine Forums and Social Networking" is encapsulated in the above post! [cheers.gif][/quote]
A quick search through Google Groups brought up this blast from the past:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food ... c038cc970c

It's tame compared to a few others I found...[/quote]

Wow- reading that really took me back. I was sitting in my room in the fraternity house on my first computer when I wrote the first post in that string you linked (and happier still today to look back and see I did not get into the personal drama that ensued...)[/quote]


I did not much about that wine site but I did know more then a few posters there. As you say memories. Every one now is older and as with the wine we buy, hopefully matures well. [cheers.gif]

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#131 Post by Matt Neel » March 11th, 2012, 8:50 pm

Jeez, for me the leader was Bill Spohn. I read his every post; it kept the lifeline open during la skool. What a great leader. I was ITB through '92, then out. When I wanted some good info, I looked to Bill's notes. Short and tight.
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#132 Post by MarkH » March 11th, 2012, 9:21 pm

Brad Kane wrote:
Brad Kane wrote:Sure wish Yaniger still posted on wine.
His Three Stooges wine rating system deserves mention in this topic. Giving wines ratings such as "Triple Larry" and "Moe Double Curley" was brilliant!
Agreed. Genius.

Plus, there's his unforgettable description of the '93 Overnoy- Arbois Pupillon, which, imo, was dead on.
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#133 Post by Jay Miller » March 12th, 2012, 7:27 am

Roberto Rogness wrote:Re Therapy / Disorder: didn't someone manage to crash / destroy Therapy's entire data base losing all the content then Disorder was the same folks coming back from the ashes?
That is correct, though it's run by different people.
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#134 Post by Jay Miller » March 12th, 2012, 7:51 am

I started on WLDG back around 1998 or 1999.

I added West Cost Wine Board a year or two after that and Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts some time after that. Haven't been to either of those in quite a while.

I started reading / posting on Squires when someone pointed me to the "I can't believe the WA downgraded the 1993 Burgundy vintage" thread.

Prefixing a tasting note with "TN:" was required by the old WLDG software if you wanted your post archived. Nothing else was saved so many conversations (including replies to tasting notes) were lost.

I've spoken with co-workers of Robert Callahan's from the time of the Parker dinner and they confirm that he was very ill that week and the only reason he attended was that Parker said he would cancel the dinner if he wasn't there.

There was a large migration of people from Robin Garr's WLDG board at one point for a variety of reasons (I wasn't part of it but eventually tracked them down so I could keep reading Chris Coad's tasting notes). They first started posting to an obscure board called Wine Asylum and then moved to Wine Therapy when it was built by Robert Callahan. Unfortunately his steadily worsening illness meant that the software wasn't maintained and the content wasn't backed up so everything was lost in a hacker attack. Wine Disorder was built as a new home.

I left Robin's board when he made the Netscape move (I loathed that format) but visit the current board every so often though I'm no longer by any means a regular.

Oh, and I found this board shortly before being kicked off of Squires for not subscribing.
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#135 Post by Brian Tuite » March 12th, 2012, 12:04 pm

All this reminiscing is probably great for all of you who were there. Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words that ends up driving all the fun out of the experience? Sorry if I'm peeing in your wine but a bunch of fun people don't post here any longer because "It's not fun anymore, it's too confrontational". pileon
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#136 Post by Brad Kane » March 12th, 2012, 12:08 pm

Brian Tuite wrote:but a bunch of fun people don't post here any longer because "It's not fun anymore, it's too confrontational".
Who's no longer posting here that previously did, out of curiosity?
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#137 Post by Cris Whetstone » March 12th, 2012, 12:10 pm

Brian Tuite wrote:All this reminiscing is probably great for all of you who were there. Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words that ends up driving all the fun out of the experience? Sorry if I'm peeing in your wine but a bunch of fun people don't post here any longer because "It's not fun anymore, it's too confrontational". pileon
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#138 Post by Brian Tuite » March 12th, 2012, 12:23 pm

Cris Whetstone wrote:
Brian Tuite wrote:All this reminiscing is probably great for all of you who were there. Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words that ends up driving all the fun out of the experience? Sorry if I'm peeing in your wine but a bunch of fun people don't post here any longer because "It's not fun anymore, it's too confrontational". pileon
Been hearing that from nearly Day #1. I've realized no place will ever please everyone. You have to try to make the place you like the kind of experience you like. You will never control everyone else nor should you want to.
Understood, I make it what I want. I avoid forums that I don't click with. I been missing a few folks and when I ask them where they have been I get the same answer.

Sorry Brad but I don't want to post names. Those people can speak up if they want. I'm just asking a general question based on my observations. [cheers.gif]
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#139 Post by Rick Gregory » March 12th, 2012, 12:39 pm

Brian Tuite wrote:
Cris Whetstone wrote:
Brian Tuite wrote:All this reminiscing is probably great for all of you who were there. Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words that ends up driving all the fun out of the experience? Sorry if I'm peeing in your wine but a bunch of fun people don't post here any longer because "It's not fun anymore, it's too confrontational". pileon
Been hearing that from nearly Day #1. I've realized no place will ever please everyone. You have to try to make the place you like the kind of experience you like. You will never control everyone else nor should you want to.
Understood, I make it what I want. I avoid forums that I don't click with. I been missing a few folks and when I ask them where they have been I get the same answer.

Sorry Brad but I don't want to post names. Those people can speak up if they want. I'm just asking a general question based on my observations. [cheers.gif]
The moment I saw your comment and Brad's post I thought to myself "He won't post names. Like all of the prior complaints about the people who won't post here, it will be some vague assertion with zero evidence." and... Voila!

Every person who complains about this forum does this. No one ever gets specific. It's always "Oh I know of these people..." but then there are reasons for not ever coming up with real names.

As for the 'it's too confrontational' claim, well, a) it's a discussion board - if someone puts out an opinion, it might be disagreed with. If they can't handle that I question whether they get what the purpose of a discussion forum really is, b) In every case I can recall of someone complaining about this, they'll turn around and confront opinions and people with whom they disagree. It's a bit hypocritical to want to put forth strong opinions, to disagree with other people, but then to expect that one's own opinions are inviolate.

PS: Prediction... someone will reply to this with some form of ad hominem vs addressing the point.
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Re: The History of Wine Forums and Social Networking

#140 Post by c fu » March 12th, 2012, 1:33 pm

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Brian Tuite wrote:
Cris Whetstone wrote: Been hearing that from nearly Day #1. I've realized no place will ever please everyone. You have to try to make the place you like the kind of experience you like. You will never control everyone else nor should you want to.
Understood, I make it what I want. I avoid forums that I don't click with. I been missing a few folks and when I ask them where they have been I get the same answer.

Sorry Brad but I don't want to post names. Those people can speak up if they want. I'm just asking a general question based on my observations. [cheers.gif]
The moment I saw your comment and Brad's post I thought to myself "He won't post names. Like all of the prior complaints about the people who won't post here, it will be some vague assertion with zero evidence." and... Voila!

Every person who complains about this forum does this. No one ever gets specific. It's always "Oh I know of these people..." but then there are reasons for not ever coming up with real names.

As for the 'it's too confrontational' claim, well, a) it's a discussion board - if someone puts out an opinion, it might be disagreed with. If they can't handle that I question whether they get what the purpose of a discussion forum really is, b) In every case I can recall of someone complaining about this, they'll turn around and confront opinions and people with whom they disagree. It's a bit hypocritical to want to put forth strong opinions, to disagree with other people, but then to expect that one's own opinions are inviolate.

PS: Prediction... someone will reply to this with some form of ad hominem vs addressing the point.
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Re: The History of Wine Forums and Social Networking

#141 Post by Mike DiSalvo » March 12th, 2012, 1:55 pm

Was on AOL in the mid to late 1990's but once Wine Spectator forums hit I was on it, which also coincided with AOL going to unlimited monthly internet time through dial up. Great moment was going to New Jersey to participate in Aris Francisco's "family reunion" in 1999, where a number of people came in from around the country to drink wine with people they have never met before, except for the local Italian possie. lol Incredible wines that weekend, incredible people, and a fantastic host.

p.s. I believe Bacchus er, Russel Bevan, who dragged me around for a couple of days (haha) was starting to put his plan in place for his own label.
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#142 Post by Bob Wood » March 12th, 2012, 2:13 pm

Brian Tuite wrote: Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words . . .
That would be January 27, 2009. [smileyvault-ban.gif]
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#143 Post by Hank Gillespie » March 12th, 2012, 2:45 pm

"The History of Wine Forums and Social Networking"

Without going back to read over 160 posts on this thread, I'll comment upon my own participation in Wine Forums.

I joined the Parker WBB some 10 years ago, with the thought that I might find other people with a passionate
interest in wine, and that I would be able to exchange some dialogue with them on the merits of that interest;
their experiences and tastes; together with a quest for knowledge on the subject.

In relatively short order it became apparent that there were some people who shared my interests. However, it became
painfully clear also that many participated to impose their will above any other point of view; to participate in a cry for attention;
and that many of these people with a primary motivation of self importance were loathe to debate any issue in a civil manner.

With a large cellar containing many older wines, I enjoyed posting my tasting notes to share with others. In time I found that
my notes were not of particular interest to many others, and I stopped posting. I remember also attempting to inject some humor
into the fray with a New Year's Resolution post that fell on deaf ears with the Moderator. It wasn't all about wine, of course, but it was
soon relegated to a minor forum, and I was subjected to personal criticism by several posters.

Over the course I had many private debates with the Moderator over whether or not he should be actively participating in various
threads, but that didn't deter me from continuing to participate. That Board ultimately downsized and a number of obnoxious
posters looked elsewhere - a good thing IMHO as it was becoming a negative free-for-all where common courtesies were absent.

I continue to participate in the Parker BB and find the atmosphere more to my liking than existed before the purge.

I joined this Berserkers Board to carry on dialogue with some of the people I met/corresponded with on the Parker BB. I'm posting few
tasting notes here, since I believe the interest is extremely low. I don't share much enthusiasm for the various "social networks".
They're probably important to many but aren't my glass of wine.

I looked in on the UK Forum, but it's not a forum I find useful for the kind of dialogue I was seeking out.

Don't know what the future holds for wine boards, but I strongly believe a civilized culture must exist to ensure their longevity.

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#144 Post by Loren Sonkin » March 12th, 2012, 3:25 pm

I really enjoyed reading this thread. Alot of good memories. There have been a lot of people over the years who have come and gone. No mention of Raney?
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#145 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 12th, 2012, 4:56 pm

Raney story: driving from Cafe Matisse back to the hotel (a 2 mile or so drive) with his wife in his lap.
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#146 Post by Bob Wood » March 12th, 2012, 4:58 pm

Whatever happened to Raney, anyway? He used to drive Squires bonkers.
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#147 Post by Brian Tuite » March 12th, 2012, 5:05 pm

Bob Wood wrote:
Brian Tuite wrote: Speaking of WB in particular can someone post a timeline of where people decided that nearly every thread had to turn into a confrontation and/or war of words . . .
That would be January 27, 2009. [smileyvault-ban.gif]
I get your point Bob but some people take it way too far just to be right all the time.
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#148 Post by Mark F r a n k s » March 12th, 2012, 5:46 pm

Raney Story: Offline at Montrachet - we must have popped 20 or so bottles between the 7 or 8 attendees. Everyone is gone save for me, Raney and his buddy Duts (stud spelled backwards according to Matt). We are pretty much plowed at this point but Matt is still thirsty, Matt gets up and grabs a bottle that has been opened for another table but has been foolishly left unattended I believe it was a '61 top name Bordeaux (really can't remember) but he takes that bottle and pours into one of our empties then take one of our "house blend" (spit) buckets and pours that into the now empty bottle of prized Bordeaux and places it lovingly back on the mantle before anyone sees. We proceed to drink the good wine, it was pretty nice, while the Somm comes for bottle of leavings and brings it to the table. Raney then proceeds to engage the table in a conversation regarding their prized bottle. They loved it and offered us a taste which we all declined off course. I laughed so hard on the taxi ride back to Grand Central with Matt I thought I cracked a rib. I felt bad the next day as it was a pretty shitty thing to do, but it was funny at the time.
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#149 Post by Brian Tuite » March 12th, 2012, 5:53 pm

Mark F r a n k s wrote:Raney Story: Offline at Montrachet - we must have popped 20 or so bottles between the 7 or 8 attendees. Everyone is gone save for me, Raney and his buddy Duts (stud spelled backwards according to Matt). We are pretty much plowed at this point but Matt is still thirsty, Matt gets up and grabs a bottle that has been opened for another table but has been foolishly left unattended I believe it was a '61 top name Bordeaux (really can't remember) but he takes that bottle and pours into one of our empties then take one of our "house blend" (spit) buckets and pours that into the now empty bottle of prized Bordeaux and places it lovingly back on the mantle before anyone sees. We proceed to drink the good wine, it was pretty nice, while the Somm comes for bottle of leavings and brings it to the table. Raney then proceeds to engage the table in a conversation regarding their prized bottle. They loved it and offered us a taste which we all declined off course. I laughed so hard on the taxi ride back to Grand Central with Matt I thought I cracked a rib. I felt bad the next day as it was a pretty shitty thing to do, but it was funny at the time.
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#150 Post by Todd F r e n c h » March 12th, 2012, 6:14 pm

Mark F r a n k s wrote:Raney Story: Offline at Montrachet - we must have popped 20 or so bottles between the 7 or 8 attendees. Everyone is gone save for me, Raney and his buddy Duts (stud spelled backwards according to Matt). We are pretty much plowed at this point but Matt is still thirsty, Matt gets up and grabs a bottle that has been opened for another table but has been foolishly left unattended I believe it was a '61 top name Bordeaux (really can't remember) but he takes that bottle and pours into one of our empties then take one of our "house blend" (spit) buckets and pours that into the now empty bottle of prized Bordeaux and places it lovingly back on the mantle before anyone sees. We proceed to drink the good wine, it was pretty nice, while the Somm comes for bottle of leavings and brings it to the table. Raney then proceeds to engage the table in a conversation regarding their prized bottle. They loved it and offered us a taste which we all declined off course. I laughed so hard on the taxi ride back to Grand Central with Matt I thought I cracked a rib. I felt bad the next day as it was a pretty shitty thing to do, but it was funny at the time.
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