ACKER now selling counterfeit Bourbon also?

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ACKER now selling counterfeit Bourbon also?

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Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
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NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
The comment about a leopard and its spots comes to mind.
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John Danza wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 9:05 pm
NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
The comment about a leopard and its spots comes to mind.
Or a poop and its stink.
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#4 Post by R. Gaston »

I mean honestly...how the f*ck do people still shop at Acker’s???
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NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
WHOA

You can tell that manager KNEW. Immediately. If he didn't know he was peddling fakes, you'd think he'd be curious about why this film crew was there and what they wanted to talk to him about and then he would be gobsmacked to find out what happened. Not so with this guy.
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#6 Post by Mark Golodetz »

I agree I loved the professional way they handled it. Unbelievable.
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I'm wondering if this should be broken out into a new topic. It might bring much more visibility to the world at large and hopefully, get more people to NOT shop at Acker.

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Troy Stark wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:56 am
NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
WHOA

You can tell that manager KNEW. Immediately. If he didn't know he was peddling fakes, you'd think he'd be curious about why this film crew was there and what they wanted to talk to him about and then he would be gobsmacked to find out what happened. Not so with this guy.
The only thing that clip was missing was Mike Wallace
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Troy Stark wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:56 am
NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
WHOA

You can tell that manager KNEW. Immediately. If he didn't know he was peddling fakes, you'd think he'd be curious about why this film crew was there and what they wanted to talk to him about and then he would be gobsmacked to find out what happened. Not so with this guy.
I agree. "Wow, thanks for pointing that out. We're going to work harder at vetting and authentication of rare bottles like this. Of course we will give you a refund immediately." That would be the correct response if someone was even pretending to not have known, let alone genuinely did not know.

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#10 Post by Mark Golodetz »

Larry Stein wrote: May 4th, 2021, 8:09 am I'm wondering if this should be broken out into a new topic. It might bring much more visibility to the world at large and hopefully, get more people to NOT shop at Acker.
Agree.
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Larry Stein wrote: May 4th, 2021, 8:09 am I'm wondering if this should be broken out into a new topic. It might bring much more visibility to the world at large and hopefully, get more people to NOT shop at Acker.
Only if it stays in the "Wine Talk" area. If it gets buried in the "beer and spirits" area because it's about fake Bourbon, then it'll be lost.
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CJ Beazley wrote: May 4th, 2021, 8:39 am
Troy Stark wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:56 am
NealW wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:55 pm Acker still at it... this time high end rare bourbon

https://www.insideedition.com/is-the-hi ... 32OhHbN078
WHOA

You can tell that manager KNEW. Immediately. If he didn't know he was peddling fakes, you'd think he'd be curious about why this film crew was there and what they wanted to talk to him about and then he would be gobsmacked to find out what happened. Not so with this guy.
The only thing that clip was missing was Mike Wallace
Chris Hansen.
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JDavisRoby wrote: May 4th, 2021, 6:46 pm
CJ Beazley wrote: May 4th, 2021, 8:39 am
Troy Stark wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:56 am

WHOA

You can tell that manager KNEW. Immediately. If he didn't know he was peddling fakes, you'd think he'd be curious about why this film crew was there and what they wanted to talk to him about and then he would be gobsmacked to find out what happened. Not so with this guy.
The only thing that clip was missing was Mike Wallace
Chris Hansen.
Chris is there for when people fake the young bourbon's not the old ones.

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#14 Post by Tim McCracken »

Waiting for the Acker apologists to speak up to say that Acker was being set up...

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#15 Post by Todd F r e n c h »

Had to move this to Beer and Spirits - not at all about wine, but would be smart to have several threads on the b.s. that allegedly goes on out there
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#16 Post by Curtis Chen »

Acker selling counterfeits. No surprise. Don't understand how they're still relevant.

Also, what's Buffalo Trace really doing to stop the fakes? I haven't seen anything yet.

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#17 Post by T. Melloni »

We need Adam Herz to start a thread on this Forum.
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#18 Post by Don Cornwell »

T. Melloni wrote: May 5th, 2021, 2:05 pm We need Adam Herz to start a thread on this Forum.
Adam is a one of the good guys. I've been working with him for a while when the issue is counterfeit spirits.
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This does not look good for Acker

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After everything they have gone through now they have a bourbon problem. Why would anyone ever trust anything purchased from these guys?

https://vinepair.com/booze-news/fake-bo ... ker-wines/

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I cannot understand how anyone would even consider doing business with this place

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I cannot understand how anyone would even consider doing business with this place
Hoping that some high roller doesn't know how they roll.

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#23 Post by Tom R W »

But didn't they sell an NFT proving authenticity with this bottle!? How could it possibly be fake??
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#24 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m »

Tom R W wrote: May 7th, 2021, 2:23 pm But didn't they sell an NFT proving authenticity with this bottle!? How could it possibly be fake??
An NFT doesn't prove authenticity; rather, it merely proves it is the unit it purports to be.
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#25 Post by Tom R W »

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: May 7th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Tom R W wrote: May 7th, 2021, 2:23 pm But didn't they sell an NFT proving authenticity with this bottle!? How could it possibly be fake??
An NFT doesn't prove authenticity; rather, it merely proves it is the unit it purports to be.
I know. I was poking a bit of fun at Acker, it’s so easy to do right now.
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