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#51 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » November 17th, 2011, 6:58 am

Quite a few folks are throwing out the big names and big dollar wines...nothing wrong with that if you have the coin. Of course I would like to have a list of the First Growths and the original five California Cult Cabs, but alas I will produce a list of wines that I can afford annually, have purchased and will continue to purchase.

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#52 Post by Ian Brand » November 17th, 2011, 7:00 am

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Black Box
Delicato . . .

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#53 Post by Herwig Janssen » November 17th, 2011, 7:08 am

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Ponsot
Rousseau
d'Auvenay
Coche-Dury
Raveneau
Clos des Papes
Rayas
Haut Brion
Yquem

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#54 Post by Bruce Rudman » November 17th, 2011, 7:18 am

I see no one has listed Sierra Carche.
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#55 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » November 17th, 2011, 7:21 am

Bruce Rudman wrote:I see no one has listed Sierra Carche.
Nice.
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#56 Post by SteveC » November 17th, 2011, 7:46 am

Cost/afforability is definitely an issue that everyone should consider. Of course for some that is less an issue for some than others.

I actually found this exercise VERY difficult. I buy deep and from several regions/producers, so limiting it to 10 was troublesome. Anyhow, here is my list in no particular order:

Trimbach
Lopez de Heredia
d'Angerville
Jadot
Dauvissat
Giacosa
Produttori
Jaboulet
Malescot St. Exupery
Leoville Las Cases

It killed me not to be able to include Dujac, Bize, Drouhin, Chave, Guigal, JJ Prum, Lisini and a few others ...
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#57 Post by Deacon Chapin » November 17th, 2011, 7:56 am

My 10 would look something like this given affordability constraints:

Huet
Lopez de Heredia
Alvaro Palacios
Proddutori
D. Ventura
Azienda Agricola COS
Gruet
Westport Rivers (they're local and quite good, and if I can only buy from 10, would be nice if one was around the corner)
FX Pichler
Boekenhoutskloof

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#58 Post by Larry P » November 17th, 2011, 8:06 am

A tough question and not the same as asking what are the top 10 in your cellar. You need to make sure all types of wine you'd ever like to drink (and, assuming I need to do this on my current projected income, all price ranges) are represented, and therefore producers with wide ranging portfolios are valuable:

Bedrock
Siduri/Novy
Ridge
Rhys
Chapoutier
Perrin
Trimbach
JJ Prum
Dow
Rieussec
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#59 Post by Michael Lewis » November 17th, 2011, 8:22 am

Verset
Trollat
Gentaz
R. Michel
Truchot
H. Jayer

Damnit I cannot think of any others that I like...
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#60 Post by K John Joseph » November 17th, 2011, 8:30 am

Guigal
JJ Prum
Shafer
Penfolds
L. Roederer
Quinta do Noval
Vega Sicilia
Jadot/Drouhin/L. Latour
Tenuta del Ornellaia
Leoville Las Cases

I think I cover most regions, and each producer except LLC produces a wide range of very good wines in many varieties. Port, Duoro, Tempranillo, Bord. Blends, Pinot, Chard, Shiraz, Syrah, Grenache, Merlot, Riesling, Champy blend, etc. You couldn't get bored with the wines produced by that lineup. Oh, and many of them are actually affordable...

(edited to mention affordability...which should be important, right?)
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#61 Post by drsugarman » November 17th, 2011, 8:33 am

Drouhin
Mascarello
D'Angerville
Ramonet
Roulot
Chevillon
Dujac
Rhys (Chardonnay)
Brocard
Salon
Rousseau

I guess this one goes to 11 ...
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#62 Post by Jay Miller » November 17th, 2011, 8:56 am

Michael Lewis wrote:Verset
Trollat
Gentaz
R. Michel
Truchot
H. Jayer

Damnit I cannot think of any others that I like...
lol, not buying much these days I take it?
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#63 Post by coreyweaver » November 17th, 2011, 9:07 am

rivers marie
myriad
seavey
rochioli
peay
wesmar
lillian
zepaltas
something from the santa cruz mts
something from anderson valley, probably copain since they make syrah as well.

I guess if this is forever a sauternes might knock one of these off. And though lillian is my favorite syrah, pisoni could maybe knock them off, just because that provides a central coast pinot as well.

I bypassed some favorites due to narrow varietal focus, or small number of bottlings.

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#64 Post by Nick Gangas » November 17th, 2011, 9:08 am

Ok off the top of my head.

G. Mascarello
Allemand
Dauvissaut
Leflaive
Carillon
Rousseau
Mugnier
Roumier
Raveneau
DRC
Cathiard
D'Angerville

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#65 Post by Jay Miller » November 17th, 2011, 9:14 am

I didn't think this would be as hard as it was. Drouhin nearly dropped off due to their recent price raises but if I'm limiting myself to one Burgundy producer then I want one with a wide range of terroirs and price points.


Clos Roche Blanche
Baudry
Egon Muller
Nigl
Drouhin
Huet
Gonzalez Byass
Edmunds St. John
Allemand
Taittinger
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#66 Post by Jay Miller » November 17th, 2011, 9:16 am

coreyweaver wrote:I bypassed some favorites due to narrow varietal focus, or small number of bottlings.
Yes, I did the same. None of my favorite Savigny producers made it despite the fact that I'm buying a lot of them these days.
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#67 Post by William Segui » November 17th, 2011, 9:24 am

not sure what else would be on there, but Pappy Van Winkle/Buffalo Trace would be on my list.

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#68 Post by Mike de Lange » November 17th, 2011, 9:31 am

Nick Gangas wrote:Ok off the top of my head.

G. Mascarello
Allemand
Dauvissaut
Leflaive
Carillon
Rousseau
Mugnier
Roumier
Raveneau
DRC
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#69 Post by Jim Karegeannes » November 17th, 2011, 9:56 am

There are your dream wines, then the ones you actually drink with meals and friends:

Ridge
Rhys
Ceritas
Clos Puy Arnaud
Huët
Servin
Triennes (rosé and red)
Fontadi
Ch. Myrat
Carpano Antica (for Manhattans and Negronis!)

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#70 Post by Matt Latuchie » November 17th, 2011, 10:14 am

TOUGH exercise!

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Tremblay
Pepiere
Clos Roche Blanche
Rougeard
Baudry
Hirtzberger
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#71 Post by Justin.Sanderson » November 17th, 2011, 10:17 am

Larry P wrote:A tough question and not the same as asking what are the top 10 in your cellar. You need to make sure all types of wine you'd ever like to drink (and, assuming I need to do this on my current projected income, all price ranges) are represented, and therefore producers with wide ranging portfolios are valuable:

Bedrock
Siduri/Novy
Ridge
Rhys
Chapoutier
Perrin
Trimbach
JJ Prum
Dow
Rieussec

We'll have to get together to drink sometime, our list will share a few of the same:

1) Bedrock (My new favorite winemaker, I can't/don't recall where I heard of Morgan, but got on his list 18+ Months ago, and haven't looked back, what a variety of wines, all made to suit and showcase the grape/vineyard/vintage, love the whole style). Now if only his wines would age quicker...
2) Joseph Swan (My former favorite wine maker, but this Morgan guy....)
3) Ridge (Don't know if I could survive without vintage Monte Bello)
4) Iron Horse or Schramsberg....can't decide. (Everyday sparklers)
5) Taittinger (My favorite NV Champagne)
6) JJ Prum (Love riesling)
7) Another yet to be determined German Riesling producer (not from Mosel) Rheingau maybe? SUGGESTIONS?
8) Palatine Hills (great cheap Ice Wine, I drink 1-2 375s a week)
9) Schrader or Nickel & Nickel (for those big ol' Porterhouse nights)
10) Cameron Hughes (Variety, cheap).

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#72 Post by loren.grossman » November 17th, 2011, 10:18 am

Haut Brion
Palmer
Texier
Pepiere
Pol Roger
Gruaud Larose
Rousseau
Beaucastel
Gaja
Guigal

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#73 Post by Scott G r u n e r » November 17th, 2011, 10:27 am

I would need to ensure some diversity:
Bordeaux- Leoville Barton
CdP/Rhone- Pegau, Beau, Clape
US- Betz, Cayuse, St. Innocent
Champagne- Camille Saves
Port- Taylor
Italy- Produttori del Barbaresco
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#74 Post by Howard Cooper » November 17th, 2011, 10:28 am

Jay Miller wrote:
Michael Lewis wrote:Verset
Trollat
Gentaz
R. Michel
Truchot
H. Jayer

Damnit I cannot think of any others that I like...
lol, not buying much these days I take it?
I guess that there is the auction market.
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#75 Post by Howard Cooper » November 17th, 2011, 10:30 am

Deacon Chapin wrote:My 10 would look something like this given affordability constraints:

Huet
Lopez de Heredia
Alvaro Palacios
Proddutori
D. Ventura
Azienda Agricola COS
Gruet
Westport Rivers (they're local and quite good, and if I can only buy from 10, would be nice if one was around the corner)
FX Pichler
Boekenhoutskloof
I noticed a number of people have listed Proddutori. Never had any of their wines, but I just bought a couple of 2005s.
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#76 Post by Patrick Friel » November 17th, 2011, 10:35 am

Terredora
Rocca di Montegrossi
Elio Grasso
Il Poggione
Lopez de Heredia
Bodegas Federico
Quinto do Noval
St. Cosme
Brocard
Nalle

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#77 Post by brianmcbrearty » November 17th, 2011, 11:11 am

Not sure it's in the spirit of the question, but if I were really forced to do this, I'd probably be mostly concerned with breadth because my tastes are fickle to this point and my list from five years ago would have little in common with my list from today, and ten years back would have NOTHING in common with today.
So... DRC type fantasy stuff aside...

Copain
Rivers Marie
Muller Catoir
Baudry or Breton
Brun
Louis Latour
Faively
rhone is the hardest to choose one... Texier.
uh... sparkler... Selosse or Bouchard
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#78 Post by Scott Butler » November 17th, 2011, 11:31 am

Tough call, and I am glad I don't have to do this...

My top 9

Ridge
Loring
Carlisle
Rochioli
Something Italian (I have lots of favorite producers, I'd have to single out a Tuscan winery)
Louis Roederer (or Taittinger - but my fave Comtes de Champagne is not an everyday priced one)
Outpost
Pisoni/Lucia
Rivers-Marie

Then I'd have to squeeze one of these in...

Merry Edwards (love that SB)
Holdredge
Mount Eden
Clos Pepe
Rhys
Rieussec (I love stickies but don't drink them quite enough to commit to one)


Then I would instantly be sad that I can't explore wines any more. I am really starting to dig Priorat but don't have a winery I can single out yet...except Clos Erasmus, but I'd need a raise to start buying that one consistently. I really like Black Slate but know nothing more from Celler Marc Ripoll Sans, so would I commit to them? Oh the humanity!!!!
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#79 Post by Greg Ossi » November 17th, 2011, 11:54 am

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Rhys
Cayuse
Ridge
Schrader
Jadot
Voerzio
Rivers-Marie
Thibault-Liger
Pichon-Lalande

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#80 Post by Larry P » November 17th, 2011, 12:03 pm

Justin.Sanderson wrote: We'll have to get together to drink sometime, our list will share a few of the same:
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#81 Post by Blake J o h n s o n » November 17th, 2011, 12:31 pm

Given realistic money constraints (assumes future wife will not be happy with a big expense account), and only dealing with wines I own/have tried:

Peay
Bedrock
Larkmead
Goosecross Cellars
Roderer
V. Sattui
Farella-Park
Rivers-Marie
Ayoub
Tablas Creek

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#82 Post by K John Joseph » November 17th, 2011, 12:48 pm

Great topic, by the way. Very interesting to see 1) how people think, and 2) what people drink (palate preferences)
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#83 Post by Eric Keating » November 17th, 2011, 1:03 pm

I used a wide price range. If I am limited to only 10 producers, I can afford more Haut Brion and Yquem!

For white:
Weingut Keller
Hanzell

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Lynch Bages
Ceritas
Bevan
Joseph Phelps
Leoville Barton
Haut Brion

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#84 Post by Justin.Sanderson » November 17th, 2011, 1:05 pm

K John Joseph wrote:Great topic, by the way. Very interesting to see 1) how people think, and 2) what people drink (palate preferences)
I really like the topic too. I think if next week is slow at work, I will organize a chart/list that shows all the producer's that were given votes, and how many votes each received. Maybe integrate it with average bottle price from CT for a recent popular wine (according to CT). Sounds like a good project for an intern..... [popcorn.gif]

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#85 Post by John Peacock » November 17th, 2011, 1:22 pm

Hmm.....

Cellar candidates:
1) Ayoub
2) Cristom
3) Kosta Browne
4) Kerloo Cellars
5) Rotie Cellars
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#86 Post by mstockley » November 17th, 2011, 1:43 pm

coreyweaver wrote:
something from the santa cruz mts
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Ridge?
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#87 Post by jordan whitehead » November 17th, 2011, 3:05 pm

off the bottom of my head

Angelus
conseillante
Krug
guigal
chave
jj prum
ridge
beaucastel
pegau
pichon baron
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#88 Post by K John Joseph » November 17th, 2011, 3:12 pm

Silver Oak
Caymus
Domaine Serene
Cakebread
Darioush
Opus One
Molly Dooker
R Wines
Shirvington
Benmarco

(Don't count these in your tally, this is a joke...clearly, I hope)
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#89 Post by Scott Brunson » November 17th, 2011, 3:31 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:Based on what I currently buy and can afford:

Maison Ilan
Jadot
Trimbach
Ridge
Cedric Bouchard
Rheinhold Haart
Selbach
Cecile Tremblay
JJ Prum
Chandon des Briailles
CRAP!
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#90 Post by Mike During » November 17th, 2011, 3:36 pm

Rousseau
Raveneau
DRC
Mugnier
Fourrier (because they have more climat than Bachelet)
Cathiard
Roulot
G Conterno
Trimbach
Krug
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#91 Post by Paul H Galli » November 17th, 2011, 3:45 pm

Wines in my budget:

1) Rhys
2) Copain
3) Ceritas
4) Roty
5) Jadot
6) Lignier Family
7) D'Angerville
8) Dauvissat
9) Fevre
10) Foillard

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#92 Post by Sanjay Nandurkar » November 17th, 2011, 3:53 pm

Rousseau
DRC
Mugnier
Leflaive
Raveneau
Margaux
Cheval Blanc
Giacosa
Rayas
d'Yquem

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#93 Post by Joe Hauck » November 17th, 2011, 3:58 pm

Copain
Joseph Swan
Montelena
Ridge
Huet
Chidaine
Baudry
Chave
Rhys

One left to choose, so I would rotate through some Ca. Syrah - Big Basin, Novy, Lucia

I would love to add some Sauternes, but if only allowed 10 I would have to survive with Huet Moelleux.
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#94 Post by Scott Butler » November 17th, 2011, 4:10 pm

Dang, we have some serious ballers here, drinking nothing but first growths and grand crus, I'd have to sell my house to keep those habits.

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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#95 Post by Andrew Gold » November 17th, 2011, 4:21 pm

It's a fun question
1) Produttori
2) Marcarini
3) Cavalloto
4) Clos Rougeard
5) Evesham Wood
6) Pierre Peters
7) Pierre Gimonnet
8) Jadot
9) Pavelot
10) Drouhin

That said, I bet a few years from now this list would look pretty different.

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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#96 Post by Robert Thornton » November 17th, 2011, 4:33 pm

Raveneau
d'Angerville
Dujac
Rousseau
Henri Boillot
Pepiere
Fritz Haag
Cedric Bouchard
Vissoux
Rhys

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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#97 Post by c fu » November 17th, 2011, 4:40 pm

Scott Butler wrote:Dang, we have some serious ballers here, drinking nothing but first growths and grand crus, I'd have to sell my house to keep those habits.

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Limit to buying doesn't mean we can afford to buy. I can limit myself to only dating 5'10 blonde models but I'd be single for the rest of my life [snort.gif]

1) Dujac
2) Leflaive
3) Roulot
4) Krug
5) Henri Boillot
6) Leroy
7) Jadot
8) Salon
9) Bouchard
10) Rousseau
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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#98 Post by Brian Gilp » November 17th, 2011, 4:55 pm

Ridge
Niepoort
Linden (VA)
Arcadian
J. J. Prum
Muga
Paolo bea
Terradora
Pierre peters
Jadot

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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#99 Post by Todd Tucker » November 17th, 2011, 5:37 pm

I guess if I have to mix it up and not drink any other stuff, and being realistic that I do not play in the stratosphere.

Donnhoff barely edging JJ Prum
Jadot (for breadth as much as quality)
Giacosa over G Conterno due to breadth
Pegau
Chave over Guigal in spite of breadth
Huet
Pick a acidic crisp white Spanish, Friulian, Savoie or Muscadet producer
Mugneret-Gibourg
Alzinger
Taittinger
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Re: If I had to limit my buying to 10 producers ....

#100 Post by Scott Butler » November 17th, 2011, 5:37 pm

Charlie Fu wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:Dang, we have some serious ballers here, drinking nothing but first growths and grand crus, I'd have to sell my house to keep those habits.

Sent from mobile
Limit to buying doesn't mean we can afford to buy. I can limit myself to only dating 5'10 blonde models but I'd be single for the rest of my life [snort.gif]

1) Dujac
2) Leflaive
3) Roulot
4) Krug
5) Henri Boillot
6) Leroy
7) Jadot
8) Salon
9) Bouchard
10) Rousseau
I think it is implied, but feel free to live in your own world, with your blond bombshell. neener
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