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#3651 Post by Geoff F. » April 13th, 2020, 6:18 pm

Any guesses on the 2018 Mystery Cornas? My money is on Vincent Paris Granit 30 which he's offered a previous vintage of and is at the right price point. Makes it an easy pass for me.
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#3652 Post by Shay h arnoy » April 14th, 2020, 9:11 am

Geoff F. wrote:
April 13th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Any guesses on the 2018 Mystery Cornas? My money is on Vincent Paris Granit 30 which he's offered a previous vintage of and is at the right price point. Makes it an easy pass for me.
In for 1 mostly due to coronavirus boredom/curiosity.

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#3653 Post by Mike Rotondo » April 14th, 2020, 9:54 am

Shay h arnoy wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 9:11 am
Geoff F. wrote:
April 13th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Any guesses on the 2018 Mystery Cornas? My money is on Vincent Paris Granit 30 which he's offered a previous vintage of and is at the right price point. Makes it an easy pass for me.
In for 1 mostly due to coronavirus boredom/curiosity.
Same here, and also because I never buy enough Northern Rhone.
If that's the wine, then it's in the low-mid $40's around me, so I'd be happy with the price. But I really only see the Vinous score on retailer sites, so might not meet the criteria of "multiple 90's notes" as stated in the offer.

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#3654 Post by Shay h arnoy » April 14th, 2020, 6:23 pm

Any guesses on 1999 barbaresco mystery for $89?

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#3655 Post by PeterH » April 14th, 2020, 6:27 pm

Too many options, unfortunately. Some that could fall into the price range are outstanding, so it is a shame Jon doesn't just name the wine and charge close to the market price.
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#3656 Post by joeduncan » April 16th, 2020, 11:36 am

Great deal on 2018 Arnot-Roberts Chardonnay "Trout Gulch" today, $35.

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#3657 Post by Brent S » April 16th, 2020, 12:13 pm

I just bought 2 bottles of the arnot roberts from the winery at $45 each plus expensive shipping and sales tax so $35 with cheap shipping and no tax is nice
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#3658 Post by Tom W » April 16th, 2020, 12:21 pm

Brent S wrote:
April 16th, 2020, 12:13 pm
I just bought 2 bottles of the arnot roberts from the winery at $45 each plus expensive shipping and sales tax so $35 with cheap shipping and no tax is nice
It was kind of cool of Arnot Roberts to agree to a non-Mystery deal here. Knowledgeable wine buyers know that wineries sell to wholesale customer at about half what they charge retail. With on premise shut down, they need to move wine that was slated for that channel. Depending on Garagiste's margins, Arnot Roberts might be getting the same or more for this lot of wine than they would have via wholesale in a normal environment.
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#3659 Post by ncostanzo1 » April 21st, 2020, 4:59 pm

2014 Dunn Petite Sirah --- any thoughts on this at the price offered and the "rarity" of the release? I've got a couple bottles of the Retro Cellars Howell Mtn but it's so young I don't want to open just yet.
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#3660 Post by Marc Yamawaki » April 21st, 2020, 5:20 pm

ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 4:59 pm
2014 Dunn Petite Sirah --- any thoughts on this at the price offered and the "rarity" of the release? I've got a couple bottles of the Retro Cellars Howell Mtn but it's so young I don't want to open just yet.
I bit on the offer and will complain if it isn't a true Dunn bottling.
I tried to do some research on this, and I only found bottlings of 1992-1995.

Here's the description from Dunn's website, although it doesn't mention which blocks originally had what varietals:
"Park Muscatine Vineyard
We purchased this vineyard in 1991. It is comprised of 5 distinct blocks. We immediately replanted "Cuervo", followed by "JK" (1993) and "Below House" (1998). "Coyote" is the former home of the "Old Petite" block Mike and Kara grew for Retro Cellars, but we replanted Cabernet there in 2016. Production from the little “Creek” block is starting to slow, so we'll be replanting that acre soon."

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#3661 Post by ncostanzo1 » April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm

Marc Yamawaki wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:20 pm
ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 4:59 pm
2014 Dunn Petite Sirah --- any thoughts on this at the price offered and the "rarity" of the release? I've got a couple bottles of the Retro Cellars Howell Mtn but it's so young I don't want to open just yet.
I bit on the offer and will complain if it isn't a true Dunn bottling.
I tried to do some research on this, and I only found bottlings of 1992-1995.

Here's the description from Dunn's website, although it doesn't mention which blocks originally had what varietals:
"Park Muscatine Vineyard
We purchased this vineyard in 1991. It is comprised of 5 distinct blocks. We immediately replanted "Cuervo", followed by "JK" (1993) and "Below House" (1998). "Coyote" is the former home of the "Old Petite" block Mike and Kara grew for Retro Cellars, but we replanted Cabernet there in 2016. Production from the little “Creek” block is starting to slow, so we'll be replanting that acre soon."
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
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#3662 Post by Marc Yamawaki » April 21st, 2020, 5:52 pm

ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
I would complain since it would be misrepresentation.
I don't know if I could return the bottles since it would probably be illegal for me to ship the wine back!
So I don't know if he would would refund or discount the items.

I think this was before you joined, but the infamous "german cellar" debacle cause a huge uproar.
Anyone who complained got a full refund
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74554

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#3663 Post by Sean_S » April 21st, 2020, 9:00 pm

Marc Yamawaki wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:52 pm
ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
I would complain since it would be misrepresentation.
I don't know if I could return the bottles since it would probably be illegal for me to ship the wine back!
So I don't know if he would would refund or discount the items.

I think this was before you joined, but the infamous "german cellar" debacle cause a huge uproar.
Anyone who complained got a full refund
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74554
Did you ever get your years old stash shipped from Garagiste?
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#3664 Post by Marc Yamawaki » April 21st, 2020, 10:00 pm

Sean_S wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 9:00 pm
Marc Yamawaki wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:52 pm
ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
I would complain since it would be misrepresentation.
I don't know if I could return the bottles since it would probably be illegal for me to ship the wine back!
So I don't know if he would would refund or discount the items.

I think this was before you joined, but the infamous "german cellar" debacle cause a huge uproar.
Anyone who complained got a full refund
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74554
Did you ever get your years old stash shipped from Garagiste?
Not yet.
This is my oldest order:
Sun Mar 17th 2013 2010 MARECHALE Mugnier NSG (2010/750ml) (Burgundy) (750 ml) 2 Arrived
They only ship out full boxes, my last order today filled that pending arrival.

Also I re-read the German Cellar debacle thread, and it seemed like it was hard for a lot of people to get refunds, so YMMV on getting Dunns or refunds...

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#3665 Post by PeterH » April 23rd, 2020, 3:22 pm

BenjaminL wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 1:44 pm
MatthewT wrote:
January 10th, 2020, 2:16 pm
Today a $289.70 mystery Napa Cab from 2016 where he doesn't even bother to tell you what retail is and says "this *should* be the lowest $ you see".

loooooooool

I bet the wine is offered for $300 from the winery.
This mystery wine turned out to be 2016 Pym Rae retailing at $350 currently. I've had the ~$80 Robert Craig version, kinda *meh *on this reveal (but more interesting than an Opus One would have been).
This wine appears to be up again at just under $300.
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#3666 Post by Kasey Dubler » April 28th, 2020, 7:21 am

Patrick K wrote:
April 8th, 2020, 5:56 pm
Anyone picked up their "Willamette Valley Pinot Noir Mystery" from March 25th yet, or otherwise know what it is?
Curious if anybody knows what this bottle is yet as well?

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#3667 Post by Kris Patten » April 28th, 2020, 7:34 am

ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm
Marc Yamawaki wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:20 pm
ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 4:59 pm
2014 Dunn Petite Sirah --- any thoughts on this at the price offered and the "rarity" of the release? I've got a couple bottles of the Retro Cellars Howell Mtn but it's so young I don't want to open just yet.
I bit on the offer and will complain if it isn't a true Dunn bottling.
I tried to do some research on this, and I only found bottlings of 1992-1995.

Here's the description from Dunn's website, although it doesn't mention which blocks originally had what varietals:
"Park Muscatine Vineyard
We purchased this vineyard in 1991. It is comprised of 5 distinct blocks. We immediately replanted "Cuervo", followed by "JK" (1993) and "Below House" (1998). "Coyote" is the former home of the "Old Petite" block Mike and Kara grew for Retro Cellars, but we replanted Cabernet there in 2016. Production from the little “Creek” block is starting to slow, so we'll be replanting that acre soon."
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
I believe in the offer Jon mentioned sealed in wax, and since the Retro Cellars Petite Sirah offering is in foil, I'd fully expect this bottling to be a Dunn labelled wine from the Old Block on Howell Mountain they replanted in 2016, which makes it a bit of a unicorn too as they don't have the Old Block any longer.
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#3668 Post by james l moleberg » April 28th, 2020, 8:38 am

Kris Patten wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 7:34 am
ncostanzo1 wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:23 pm
Marc Yamawaki wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 5:20 pm


I bit on the offer and will complain if it isn't a true Dunn bottling.
I tried to do some research on this, and I only found bottlings of 1992-1995.

Here's the description from Dunn's website, although it doesn't mention which blocks originally had what varietals:
"Park Muscatine Vineyard
We purchased this vineyard in 1991. It is comprised of 5 distinct blocks. We immediately replanted "Cuervo", followed by "JK" (1993) and "Below House" (1998). "Coyote" is the former home of the "Old Petite" block Mike and Kara grew for Retro Cellars, but we replanted Cabernet there in 2016. Production from the little “Creek” block is starting to slow, so we'll be replanting that acre soon."
Thanks for the info and research Marc. I haven't done much yet but am curious about this. I know the Dunn page makes no mention of it directly nor anything on social media (but I get they are pretty low tech in those terms). If it isn't truly a Dunn bottling, would you attempt to return it?
I believe in the offer Jon mentioned sealed in wax, and since the Retro Cellars Petite Sirah offering is in foil, I'd fully expect this bottling to be a Dunn labelled wine from the Old Block on Howell Mountain they replanted in 2016, which makes it a bit of a unicorn too as they don't have the Old Block any longer.
when you now click on the link in the email, it specifically says "we are no longer accepting requests for dunn howell mountain." to me, that explicitly reads that the wine is the dunn howell mountain petite syrah, and anything other than that being delivered would be misrepresentation.

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#3669 Post by Peter Shurman » April 28th, 2020, 9:38 am

Does anyone else here dislike the ship by the case only policy?
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#3670 Post by TGigante » April 28th, 2020, 9:52 am

Peter Shurman wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:38 am
Does anyone else here dislike the ship by the case only policy?
It’s a marketing technique Pete
Want your wine?
Buy more or it’s held hostage
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#3671 Post by Peter Shurman » April 28th, 2020, 10:50 am

TGigante wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:52 am
Peter Shurman wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:38 am

Does anyone else here dislike the ship by the case only policy?
It’s a marketing technique Pete
Want your wine?
Buy more or it’s held hostage
I hear you loud and clear my friend, perhaps that is why I don't buy all too often from the man.
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#3672 Post by Toby P » April 28th, 2020, 12:37 pm

Kasey Dubler wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 7:21 am
Patrick K wrote:
April 8th, 2020, 5:56 pm
Anyone picked up their "Willamette Valley Pinot Noir Mystery" from March 25th yet, or otherwise know what it is?
Curious if anybody knows what this bottle is yet as well?
Would also be curious to hear if anyone got the Single Vineyard Mystery Cabernet (from WA) from April 9th...
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#3673 Post by Kasey Dubler » April 28th, 2020, 1:02 pm

Peter Shurman wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 10:50 am
TGigante wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:52 am
Peter Shurman wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:38 am

Does anyone else here dislike the ship by the case only policy?
It’s a marketing technique Pete
Want your wine?
Buy more or it’s held hostage
I hear you loud and clear my friend, perhaps that is why I don't buy all too often from the man.
If you call them, or email them and request they ship what you have there they will... I've done it before and never had a problem. Bigger issue if you ask me is you never know when the items are going to arrive. I'm never in a hurry, but I know many people it has annoyed.

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#3674 Post by Mike Rotondo » April 29th, 2020, 8:15 am

Kasey Dubler wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 1:02 pm
Peter Shurman wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 10:50 am
TGigante wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 9:52 am

It’s a marketing technique Pete
Want your wine?
Buy more or it’s held hostage
I hear you loud and clear my friend, perhaps that is why I don't buy all too often from the man.
If you call them, or email them and request they ship what you have there they will... I've done it before and never had a problem. Bigger issue if you ask me is you never know when the items are going to arrive. I'm never in a hurry, but I know many people it has annoyed.
I agree Kasey - case shipping is just a default, you can get arrived wine whenever you want - nothing is held hostage. However, the amount of pre-arrivals can start to add up, and if you follow the normal case shipping cadence in the preferred shipping windows, then sure, you may not get your wine that promptly.

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#3675 Post by Kenny E. » April 29th, 2020, 2:22 pm

I'm new to Garagiste so I thought I had to wait for the next shipping window.

After reading this I sent an email and my wine is on the way.

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#3676 Post by Peter Shurman » April 29th, 2020, 6:44 pm

2011 and 2013 Don Melchor @ 60 a pop ... sold out, damn it.
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#3677 Post by Steven Miller » April 30th, 2020, 4:20 pm

The last 2 Oregon mysteries were more Angela and Cristom's intro wine their WV
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#3678 Post by ChrisWolff » May 1st, 2020, 9:17 am

So what do we think the 'greatest white wine' in the world is today?

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#3679 Post by Dave H. » May 1st, 2020, 9:20 am

ChrisWolff wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 9:17 am
So what do we think the 'greatest white wine' in the world is today?
My guess is Delille Chaleur Blanc.
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#3680 Post by Ron Slye » May 1st, 2020, 9:49 am

Dave H. wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 9:20 am
ChrisWolff wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 9:17 am
So what do we think the 'greatest white wine' in the world is today?
My guess is Delille Chaleur Blanc.
That would be a great price then. But the community average (if the reference is to CT) is not 92-3 for any vintage of Chaleur Blanc.

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#3681 Post by Toby P » May 1st, 2020, 9:52 am

that's a good guess. This article has a bunch of the same language in the email, prices line up decently and of course it's a WA wine where Garagiste gets a lot of their deals. Price is definitely solid if not crazy low (winery offers it on sale at $25 periodically (before shipping). I see CT has the 2018 at 92.3 average?

Never had it, might try a few.

https://vinous.com/articles/delille-cel ... 6-jan-2020
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#3682 Post by M Mager » May 1st, 2020, 9:59 am

Toby P wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 9:52 am
that's a good guess. This article has a bunch of the same language in the email, prices line up decently and of course it's a WA wine where Garagiste gets a lot of their deals. Price is definitely solid if not crazy low (winery offers it on sale at $25 periodically (before shipping). I see CT has the 2018 at 92.3 average?

Never had it, might try a few.

https://vinous.com/articles/delille-cel ... 6-jan-2020
Mystery Wines are rarely ever the ones people speculate on. That being said, if this is Chaleur Blanc, then it's still a good price, but not as big a discount as it used to be. According to this article in today's Seattle Times, you can get it these days for $27 direct from DeLille.

"... One of my favorite Washington whites, this gem from DeLille Cellars is one of the best values for white Bordeaux-style blends that you can get in the United States for under $40. Prices have now dropped. You can get it to-go for $26 at Marmite restaurant in the Chophouse Row building. (Get the fried rabbit legs if you do takeout here.) This full-body white, a blend of 71% sauvignon blanc and 29% semillon grapes, bursts with grapefruit and citrusy-thyme. It’s just outstanding, a steal at this price. If you live on the Eastside, you’re in luck. DeLille has slashed the price of this wine to $27 at its new tasting room, the old Redhook brewery plant in Woodinville. ..."

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/food- ... is-months/
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#3683 Post by Ron Slye » May 1st, 2020, 10:02 am

Toby P wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 9:52 am
that's a good guess. This article has a bunch of the same language in the email, prices line up decently and of course it's a WA wine where Garagiste gets a lot of their deals. Price is definitely solid if not crazy low (winery offers it on sale at $25 periodically (before shipping). I see CT has the 2018 at 92.3 average?

Never had it, might try a few.

https://vinous.com/articles/delille-cel ... 6-jan-2020
Oh I stand corrected -- yes on the 2018 scores. The language in his email is sufficiently ambiguous to be consistent with this.

If you have not tried it, it really is a great wine. I just bought 6 on sale from the winery at 27, which is a good deal. 19 is super good. (Assuming of course this is what it is.)

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#3684 Post by Dave H. » May 1st, 2020, 10:06 am

Basing my guess on a very similar mystery email offer a couple of years ago—highest ratest in the world and whatnot—that turned out to be the Delille. Who knows. I asked for one.
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#3685 Post by PeterH » May 1st, 2020, 10:08 am

Garagiste has offered Chaleur Blanc before as a mystery wine. I agree that is an excellent prospect, and a great deal at less than $20.
Jon is more dependable on white wines than on red wines by a wide margin, so I feel safe taking the chance on this one.
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#3686 Post by Michael Kane » May 1st, 2020, 10:32 am

anyone jumping on the groth that was just posted?

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#3687 Post by Brent S » May 1st, 2020, 10:47 am

most likely it's some Chilean wine, but if it's Delille Chaleaur, yes that's a great wine for $20.
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#3688 Post by PeterH » May 1st, 2020, 10:57 am

Michael Kane wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 10:32 am
anyone jumping on the groth that was just posted?
I used to drink Groth "back in the day", when I was impressed by over saturated, over oaked, and over rated Cabs. The price is good if you are into what I call Steakhouse Wines.
Or if you are not, have friends who demand this type of wine.
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#3689 Post by Michael Kane » May 1st, 2020, 11:20 am

out of curiosity, what did you move on to. I am fully focused on Cabs but interested what people move to when they say they are overrated (overpriced too). Thanks!

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#3690 Post by PeterH » May 1st, 2020, 11:26 am

For less money than Groth, you can buy Drinkward Peschon, a much more nuanced and satisfying wine. You can also look out for the Black Cat, Jean Edwards, and Keating offers that show up on this forum.

I should add that I'm more likely these days to buy wine from Washington than Napa. Andrew Will, Avennia, Cadence for example.
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#3691 Post by Michael Kane » May 1st, 2020, 11:45 am

Thanks, I will check it out. never pulled the trigger on a garaiste offer and have all this time to drink...

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#3692 Post by Brian Glas » May 1st, 2020, 12:15 pm

Just picked up the April 3 Oregon Pinot mystery wine. It was a 2018 Cristom Willamette Valley Pinot Noir. I have never seen that label from Cristom. I wonder if they are rebranding the Mt. Jefferson Cuvee for 2018 or did they just bottle some of the Mt. Jefferson under a different label? Not sure. However I found this description from Rimmerman flat out wrong....

Today’s entrant is meant to be a flagship of sorts (it is NOT an entry-level wine).

It isn't? It sure seems like the entry level Cristom wine to me. Just more fabrications from Rimmerman. Not really a good deal at $23.70 if it is their entry wine. I'll have to taste it blind next to some other entry level Pinots from Evesham Wood and Belle Pente to see how it compares.

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#3693 Post by Toby P » May 1st, 2020, 12:36 pm

Interesting on the Oregon mystery - Wine Access offered the same wine a few days ago (not as a mystery). Don't think it's entry level, but could also be some marketing smoke & mirrors on Cristom's part (creating a new bottling with a high "list" price but no established market yet? I don't know enough to say with any conviction). WA sold out quickly and was offering it for $30 a bottle or $25 per case...so pretty similar. Here's the WA description etc:

https://www.wineaccess.com/catalog/2018 ... 7e2eeb8f8/
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#3694 Post by Brian Glas » May 1st, 2020, 6:08 pm

It is odd you can't even buy this on Cristom's website. The $60 list price is nonsense on WineAccess.

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#3695 Post by PeterH » May 1st, 2020, 6:13 pm

Brian Glas wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 6:08 pm
It is odd you can't even buy this on Cristom's website. The $60 list price is nonsense on WineAccess.
I wonder if the nonsense starts with Rimmerman and WineAccess, or Cristom.
Even if the wine was aimed at a $35 price point, it could be a good deal at less than $25, given that it is Cristom to start with.
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#3696 Post by Tom W » May 7th, 2020, 7:15 am

Yesterday's five liter EVOO offer provides us with an insight into how the Garagiste business works. The parcel of Moroccan oil arrives this week. It would have departed Morocco apprx. six weeks ago or longer. It is highly doubtful Rimmerman was on the hunt for Moroccan olive oil a couple of months ago and decided to buy 5.0 L format. No, food brokers and distributors are scrambling to unload previously purchased food items destined for on premise use - food service / restaurants. I think that could explain the surge in food offers recently, as many of them would have gone to specialty retail. (Even prior to the crisis it seemed that more and more of Garagiste's wine offerings were pitches made *to* Rimmerman from sources needing to unload supply fast - think Wind Gap and Scott Paul to name only a few, not to mention the mystery offers.)
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#3697 Post by Geoff F. » May 7th, 2020, 10:40 pm

I'll honestly buy whatever close-out Wind Gap he can get his hands on for under $20 though. I haven't been let down by a bottle yet.

There have been a LOT of mystery offers lately though.
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#3698 Post by Kasey Dubler » May 8th, 2020, 7:24 am

I picked up a few cases yesterday and I know know the March 25th Willamette Valley Pinot Noir Mystery is Ken Wright Cellars. Just their regular bottling, which can be found for around $20 online. Only a few dollars off as a mystery, but I like Ken Wright wines so I am happy with it.

Overall I've been happy with my purchases, mystery or normal.

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#3699 Post by Kris Patten » May 8th, 2020, 8:51 am

Geoff F. wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 10:40 pm
I'll honestly buy whatever close-out Wind Gap he can get his hands on for under $20 though. I haven't been let down by a bottle yet.

There have been a LOT of mystery offers lately though.
Lots of restaurant pricing that isn't moving in restaurants and no one is looking to reset their retail prices lower locally or nationally.
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#3700 Post by David Fischer » May 8th, 2020, 4:08 pm

Geoff F. wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 10:40 pm

There have been a LOT of mystery offers lately though.
I was on a virtual wine tasting with Peay wines last week and Andy Peay mentioned that they are not getting any orders from restaurants any more. I am 100% sure that is true for all wineries. While the % will vary of course, that's is a good 15%-50% of many wineries' businesses/income. The wine has to go somewhere (or least the wine that has already been made - the 2020 vintage could be interesting in regards to volume but that's another thread). Better to get 50 cents on the bottle via a Garagiste mystery offer than pennies via retail (if that) these days. I predict a lot more mystery wines.

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