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#3251 Post by ncostanzo1 » August 16th, 2018, 9:15 pm

Tom W wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 7:35 am
Alan Newman wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 6:10 am
Dennis Borczon wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 5:02 am
FWIW. Very attractive deal on Wind Gap 2015 Pinot Noir. $13. Doubt there is a better deal out there for a nicely restrained AFWE pinot like Wind Gap.
Agreed. In for a case.
Thanks to you two I upped my quantity from 4 bottles to half a case. Thanks for sharing the enthusiasm on this one.
Went in for a case as well. Seemed like a "can't miss" buy at the price point. Here's hoping.
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#3252 Post by Alan Newman » August 17th, 2018, 7:11 am

ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 9:15 pm
Tom W wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 7:35 am
Alan Newman wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 6:10 am

Agreed. In for a case.
Thanks to you two I upped my quantity from 4 bottles to half a case. Thanks for sharing the enthusiasm on this one.
Went in for a case as well. Seemed like a "can't miss" buy at the price point. Here's hoping.
I did get a confirmation for the Grenache, but still nothing on the Syrah. Anyone else get a confirmation on the Syrah?

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#3253 Post by Tom W » August 17th, 2018, 7:24 am

Alan Newman wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:11 am
ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 9:15 pm
Tom W wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 7:35 am


Thanks to you two I upped my quantity from 4 bottles to half a case. Thanks for sharing the enthusiasm on this one.
Went in for a case as well. Seemed like a "can't miss" buy at the price point. Here's hoping.
I did get a confirmation for the Grenache, but still nothing on the Syrah. Anyone else get a confirmation on the Syrah?
Ditto, Grenache confirmation, waiting on the Syrah. [dontknow.gif]
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#3254 Post by Tom W » August 17th, 2018, 7:36 am

I'm a bit of a Wine Berserkers newbie, so forgive me (and let me know!) if this post doesn't belong on the Garagiste thread, but today K&L's weekly "Insider's Advantage" email has a new entry, the 2014 Wind Gap Sonoma Coast Chardonnay for $13.99 (Previously $30). Wind Gap winding down?
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#3255 Post by Alan Newman » August 17th, 2018, 7:43 am

And K&L has one of the Grenaches left for $30
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#3256 Post by Alan Newman » August 17th, 2018, 10:05 am

Alan Newman wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:11 am
ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 9:15 pm
Tom W wrote:
August 15th, 2018, 7:35 am


Thanks to you two I upped my quantity from 4 bottles to half a case. Thanks for sharing the enthusiasm on this one.
Went in for a case as well. Seemed like a "can't miss" buy at the price point. Here's hoping.
I did get a confirmation for the Grenache, but still nothing on the Syrah. Anyone else get a confirmation on the Syrah?
Confirmed for my 12.

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#3257 Post by PeterH » August 17th, 2018, 10:20 am

Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:36 am
I'm a bit of a Wine Berserkers newbie, so forgive me (and let me know!) if this post doesn't belong on the Garagiste thread, but today K&L's weekly "Insider's Advantage" email has a new entry, the 2014 Wind Gap Sonoma Coast Chardonnay for $13.99 (Previously $30). Wind Gap winding down?
Pax Mahle recently sold his 50% share of Wind Gap to his partner Terroir. That undoubtedly was the trigger for the close-outs, but I haven't heard of any more recent developments.

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#3258 Post by Tom W » August 17th, 2018, 10:34 am

PeterH wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 10:20 am
Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:36 am
I'm a bit of a Wine Berserkers newbie, so forgive me (and let me know!) if this post doesn't belong on the Garagiste thread, but today K&L's weekly "Insider's Advantage" email has a new entry, the 2014 Wind Gap Sonoma Coast Chardonnay for $13.99 (Previously $30). Wind Gap winding down?
Pax Mahle recently sold his 50% share of Wind Gap to his partner Terroir. That undoubtedly was the trigger for the close-outs, but I haven't heard of any more recent developments.

https://www.winespectator.com/webfeatur ... ne-Company
Interesting back story and current story. Also, re: Pax's statement that ""We got a great deal..." and the current CEO's talk of "the brand" meshes well with the back inventory blowout. Liquidating inventory could very well have been part of the financing for the buyout and dovetails with a Wind Gap "brand strategy" that will probably focus on new post-Pax vintages.
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#3259 Post by Tom W » August 17th, 2018, 3:18 pm

Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:24 am
Alan Newman wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:11 am
ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 9:15 pm


Went in for a case as well. Seemed like a "can't miss" buy at the price point. Here's hoping.
I did get a confirmation for the Grenache, but still nothing on the Syrah. Anyone else get a confirmation on the Syrah?
Ditto, Grenache confirmation, waiting on the Syrah. [dontknow.gif]
I think you and then me meant Pinot Noir, not Syrah. This is regarding the two Wind Gap offers, right? The first was for a Pinot Noir and it was quickly followed by a Grenache offer. I requested both. As mentioned, I'd received my Grenache confirmation. Later today I received my Pinot Noir confirmation.
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#3260 Post by Alan Newman » August 18th, 2018, 7:45 am

Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 3:18 pm
Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:24 am
Alan Newman wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:11 am


I did get a confirmation for the Grenache, but still nothing on the Syrah. Anyone else get a confirmation on the Syrah?
Ditto, Grenache confirmation, waiting on the Syrah. [dontknow.gif]
I think you and then me meant Pinot Noir, not Syrah. This is regarding the two Wind Gap offers, right? The first was for a Pinot Noir and it was quickly followed by a Grenache offer. I requested both. As mentioned, I'd received my Grenache confirmation. Later today I received my Pinot Noir confirmation.
My bad- meant Pinot. Confirmed for both Pinot & Grenache.

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#3261 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 18th, 2018, 9:29 am

I also got 3 of the Wind Gap Pinots - I needed to round out a case so I could get them shipped to me this fall.

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#3262 Post by Mark C » August 18th, 2018, 10:50 am

Any love for, or knowledge of, the 2017 Ca’ Rozzeria “Langhe Nebbiolo” in the latest offer?
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#3263 Post by Adam G » August 18th, 2018, 3:45 pm

Mark C wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 10:50 am
Any love for, or knowledge of, the 2017 Ca’ Rozzeria “Langhe Nebbiolo” in the latest offer?
I had a bottle of the 2015 Lange Nebbiolo and quite liked it. I don't know if the 2017 was from the same source. Either way, I didn't bite. I need to drink not buy!
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#3264 Post by Tom W » August 18th, 2018, 4:53 pm

Adam G wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 3:45 pm
Mark C wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 10:50 am
Any love for, or knowledge of, the 2017 Ca’ Rozzeria “Langhe Nebbiolo” in the latest offer?
I had a bottle of the 2015 Lange Nebbiolo and quite liked it. I don't know if the 2017 was from the same source. Either way, I didn't bite. I need to drink not buy!
I'm showing your post to my wife because it rings true with me too Re: "I need to drink not buy!" Did we just go for a hike and then buy seven bottles of wine right afterwards. Yes, we did. [blush2.gif] Aside: We're looking to expand our field of occasional wine-drinking get-together partners with similar-enough taste / budget and I see you're in Culver City. We lived there for years and moved just a couple miles away. We were just there a couple weekends ago at our friends' place working hard to make a dent on the cellar inventory. But it keeps creeping back up...
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#3265 Post by Tom W » August 22nd, 2018, 5:01 pm

Alan Newman wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 7:45 am
Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 3:18 pm
Tom W wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 7:24 am


Ditto, Grenache confirmation, waiting on the Syrah. [dontknow.gif]
I think you and then me meant Pinot Noir, not Syrah. This is regarding the two Wind Gap offers, right? The first was for a Pinot Noir and it was quickly followed by a Grenache offer. I requested both. As mentioned, I'd received my Grenache confirmation. Later today I received my Pinot Noir confirmation.
My bad- meant Pinot. Confirmed for both Pinot & Grenache.
Looks like you just spoke too soon. A Wind Gap Syrah is in play!
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#3266 Post by Adam G » August 24th, 2018, 8:05 pm

Tom W wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 4:53 pm
Adam G wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 3:45 pm
Mark C wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 10:50 am
Any love for, or knowledge of, the 2017 Ca’ Rozzeria “Langhe Nebbiolo” in the latest offer?
I had a bottle of the 2015 Lange Nebbiolo and quite liked it. I don't know if the 2017 was from the same source. Either way, I didn't bite. I need to drink not buy!
I'm showing your post to my wife because it rings true with me too Re: "I need to drink not buy!" Did we just go for a hike and then buy seven bottles of wine right afterwards. Yes, we did. [blush2.gif] Aside: We're looking to expand our field of occasional wine-drinking get-together partners with similar-enough taste / budget and I see you're in Culver City. We lived there for years and moved just a couple miles away. We were just there a couple weekends ago at our friends' place working hard to make a dent on the cellar inventory. But it keeps creeping back up...
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#3267 Post by Ron Slye » August 25th, 2018, 4:59 pm

Agharta Black Label 2011 Syrah/Rhone blend. $26.70. Mostly good reviews on CT; sounds like a wine I would like; and way below price I can find at least online. So requested 3.

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#3268 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 26th, 2018, 5:24 am

Garagiste has had a couple Agharta lately (I was tempted by the sonoma cab last week), and I saw an 09 Agharta cab show up on the Last Bottle marathon. Guess they are dumping the older vintages.

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#3269 Post by Tom W » August 26th, 2018, 7:51 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 5:24 am
Garagiste has had a couple Agharta lately (I was tempted by the sonoma cab last week), and I saw an 09 Agharta cab show up on the Last Bottle marathon. Guess they are dumping the older vintages.
See the Wine Spectator article link in post #3257 above for an explanation viewtopic.php?p=2558713#p2558713

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#3270 Post by Ron Slye » August 26th, 2018, 8:54 am

Ah that explains why they are showing up. They seem like a good deal now, no?

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#3271 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 26th, 2018, 8:59 am

I didn't realize Agharta was related to Wind Gap.

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#3272 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » August 29th, 2018, 8:30 am

M a t t W e i n s t e i n wrote:
July 22nd, 2018, 4:52 pm
Get yer' orders in for 2015 Fontalloro (er... 2015 Tuscan IGT)! I mean, I suppose it could also be Il Carbonaione. Either way...
Looks like I was right about this being 2015 Fontalloro - by the same offer today the scores match exactly. This is about the least thinly veiled mystery offer ever. Anyway, a very good price. Most U.S. retailers are at $50.

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#3273 Post by Tom W » August 29th, 2018, 8:43 am

M a t t W e i n s t e i n wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 8:30 am
M a t t W e i n s t e i n wrote:
July 22nd, 2018, 4:52 pm
Get yer' orders in for 2015 Fontalloro (er... 2015 Tuscan IGT)! I mean, I suppose it could also be Il Carbonaione. Either way...
Looks like I was right about this being 2015 Fontalloro - by the same offer today the scores match exactly. This is about the least thinly veiled mystery offer ever. Anyway, a very good price. Most U.S. retailers are at $50.
Thanks for the sleuthing. From the July 22 offer (Subject: Tuscan Excellence; Wine: 2015 Tuscan IGT, $39.86) "This exemplary parcel has just arrived with the finest/freshest provenance available – it is not a pre-arrival."

So it looks like he didn't sell out the landed product with the first offer and this is a second offer (Subject: NightLite #857 – 2015 Tuscany Top, Wine: 2015 Tuscan IGT, 39.86) to try to clear the inventory. Also, gotta love the language "compare at up to $75 in the US". It's "up to", sure Jon, "up to".
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#3274 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » August 29th, 2018, 10:05 am

Tom W wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 8:43 am
Also, gotta love the language "compare at up to $75 in the US". It's "up to", sure Jon, "up to".
JR is the king of crap. True, there is one store in NY selling this for $75. Why not just say, WSPro Average is $X.

Tom - were you and I having a discussion about my bungled buy of this same wine yesterday on CT? If so, here's where I am sourcing my replacements...

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#3275 Post by J Dove » August 29th, 2018, 10:17 am

There's a glut of sub-collectible highly pointed Italian wine in Market. Good time to be a buyer. And, I agree that JR is annoyingly FOS.
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#3276 Post by Tom W » August 29th, 2018, 10:20 am

M a t t W e i n s t e i n wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 10:05 am
Tom W wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 8:43 am
Also, gotta love the language "compare at up to $75 in the US". It's "up to", sure Jon, "up to".
JR is the king of crap. True, there is one store in NY selling this for $75. Why not just say, WSPro Average is $X.

Tom - were you and I having a discussion about my bungled buy of this same wine yesterday on CT? If so, here's where I am sourcing my replacements...
Hah! Yes & Yes!

And a big thank you for your post here highlighting this Fontalloro offer. Though I'd bought a couple bottles (also as Mystery) in the first offer on July 22, I'd skipped over yesterday's offer, only skimming it and seeing the "up to" nonsense. With your post here I realized the opportunity and bought some more. (Out here K&L has it for $50 and some of their people with opinions I respect were pounding the tables on it at that price. My visit to CT and resultant comment on your post there yesterday was prompted by a K&L email on the wine.)
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#3277 Post by Tom W » August 29th, 2018, 10:31 am

J Dove wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 10:17 am
There's a glut of sub-collectible highly pointed Italian wine in Market. Good time to be a buyer. And, I agree that JR is annoyingly FOS.
I'm far from an insider, but I too have been sensing a glut generally in the high-end-but-not-collectible wines (even with the recent vintage quantity down sharply in Europe). It seems like there's the Screaming Eagles, First Growths, Grand Crus and close environs on one track and everything else on another. Kind of makes sense given the continuation of the past couple decade's trend in income distribution not just in the U.S., but globally. This tracks with other collectibles like Art.

There's a major difference between those of us who can buy $20++ wines out of high earned income and those who have money coming at them so fast and so deep they can't sort out what to do with it. And, of course, those collectibles have either extremely limited supply base in terms of geography or in terms of Points+"Brand" legacy.

If we get a recession, I see the sad picture of pallets upon pallets of beautiful wines smashed to bits, but some bargains will make it to market.

As for "highly pointed", I use the "For Suckling subtract six" rule [blahblah.gif]
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#3278 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 29th, 2018, 11:43 am

J Dove wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 10:17 am
There's a glut of sub-collectible highly pointed Italian wine in Market. Good time to be a buyer. And, I agree that JR is annoyingly FOS.
In the last couple years, I have been making a concerted effort to increase the % of my cellar from Italy, and have noticed this as well. So many tempting retail offers for wines I know I like!

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#3279 Post by Mason H » August 30th, 2018, 12:59 pm

There is a tempting "secret" Chardonnay deal up now. Trying not to pull the trigger because I only like a very specific style of Chardonnay. My style fits his description, but...
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#3280 Post by Alan Newman » August 30th, 2018, 1:15 pm

Tried to figure it out, but couldn't find a wine-by-the-glass menu for Blackberry Farm. Bit anyway.

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#3281 Post by LauraWaltz » August 30th, 2018, 1:30 pm

They have the 2013 Ramey Chardonnay listed as by the glass on the bar menu. Retail price would fit.
http://www.blackberryfarm.com/pdfs/2016/BarnBar(1).pdf

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#3282 Post by Mike Evans » August 30th, 2018, 1:54 pm

If it is the 2013 Ramey Sonoma Coast Chard (or the 2012 or 2014), then I’d like to know which “community” is being referred to in the e-mail since all three vintages have CT user scores under 90 points.

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#3283 Post by Tom W » August 30th, 2018, 2:15 pm

Mike Evans wrote:
August 30th, 2018, 1:54 pm
If it is the 2013 Ramey Sonoma Coast Chard (or the 2012 or 2014), then I’d like to know which “community” is being referred to in the e-mail since all three vintages have CT user scores under 90 points.
The plot thickens. Carefully read the Rimmerspeak below from the Garagiste offer:

"Blackberry Farm ... had a bevy of bottles to choose from....
What white did they select?
(I think you know where I’m going with this)"

Well, Jon, I "think" I know where your going with this. But you have left it to my imagination.

So... technically he is not claiming it has been on the Blackberry Farm menu. Also, the use of tense allows for the possibility that this was on a previous menu, not the current selection.

Of course, "community" is commonly understood to mean cellartracker.com. But, again, it is not explicit.
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#3284 Post by Tom W » August 30th, 2018, 4:23 pm

LauraWaltz wrote:
August 30th, 2018, 1:30 pm
They have the 2013 Ramey Chardonnay listed as by the glass on the bar menu. Retail price would fit.
http://www.blackberryfarm.com/pdfs/2016/BarnBar(1).pdf
Let's also note that although that is indeed a live link from the Blackberry Farm website, they may simply have failed to update it (in a long time). Take a look at the URL, which contains "2016", then look at the wine list by the glass. All of the wines are vintage 2012 to 2015, inclusive with only one white wine in 2015. Seems odd in the 2nd half of 2018 to have no 2016 or 2017 white wines and instead a couple from 2013. The white wines by the glass do not appear to be ageworthy pours.
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#3285 Post by Tom W » August 30th, 2018, 4:25 pm

The Chardonnay by the glass currently poured at Blackberry Farm is a Ramey Chardonnay, but I did not obtain more specifics.

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#3286 Post by Brian Glas » August 30th, 2018, 6:39 pm

Mason H wrote:
August 30th, 2018, 12:59 pm
There is a tempting "secret" Chardonnay deal up now. Trying not to pull the trigger because I only like a very specific style of Chardonnay. My style fits his description, but...
I was tempted until I saw it was a mystery wine. Had to pass.

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#3287 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » September 5th, 2018, 2:57 pm

The Wind Gap pinot is back. I missed it the first time - with this group's enthusiasm I went in for 4 to (hopefully) round out another case for the Fall

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#3288 Post by Bryan Carr » September 7th, 2018, 11:53 am

I'm curious how many folks are going to see "California" and "Pinot" or "Syrah" from these Wind Gap offers and be completely baffled when they arrive. I personally really like Pax's style and mashed that "buy" button hard, but they're definitely an outlier.
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#3289 Post by Sean_S » September 7th, 2018, 2:48 pm

They don't fit the norm. Far more AFWE is a very good way
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#3290 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » September 14th, 2018, 4:17 pm

I'm not a fan of most California pinot, so among the Wind Gap offers I only bit (nibbled, really) on the syrah and the grenache (having never had any of their wines before). If they are "AFWE (in a good way)" rather than typical of California, I suspect I will regret my purchase - I will regret that I didn't buy more!

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#3291 Post by M Mager » September 15th, 2018, 12:23 pm

Not sure if it was previously disclosed earlier in this thread, but I picked up the following wine today:

Memorial Mystery Mayhem (MMM) #5 – 2013 Chianti Classico 750ml (Tuscany) - $13.96

It's the 2013 Fonterutoli Chianti Classico

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#3292 Post by MarkDB » September 17th, 2018, 10:05 am

Does anyone know where to find the wineries of the Ca' Rozzeria wines? Had a good one and was curious to try and see if anyone has sleuthed it out...2015 Langhe Nebbiolo Nieve that was $12.

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#3293 Post by Hoang Pham » September 21st, 2018, 2:11 pm

More Wind Gap!!!

2015 Wind Gap Syrah “Nellessen Vineyard” 750ml (Sonoma) - $19.98

In for a few. Seems like a steal at this price.

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#3294 Post by Alan Newman » September 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm

Bought lots of the previous Wind Gaps, but didn't like the CT reviews.

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#3295 Post by Tom W » September 21st, 2018, 4:01 pm

Alan Newman wrote:
September 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
Bought lots of the previous Wind Gaps, but didn't like the CT reviews.
I agree. Unfortunately there were few CT reviews and I wasn't sure whether the worse comment among them was by a member of the Anti-AFWE. I skimmed his/her notes and it seemed to show a strong preference for CdP and port...

Still, the other Wind Gaps were low teens, so lower risk. $20 may not be a lot, but it's a lot if the wine is worth $10.
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#3296 Post by Mark C » September 26th, 2018, 10:02 am

Anyone go for the ’05 Latour for $819.70? A strangely precise price but a good deal AFAIK.

And I got some ’07 Agharta syrah (red label) a while back and it is DELISH, especially for the ~$16/btl…
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#3297 Post by Bryan Carr » September 26th, 2018, 3:47 pm

I'm sure what's his name with the duck in a suit avatar would pooh-pooh the Wind Gap wines, in my experience they're fairly brambly, med/light bodied, nice acidity (on the high end for California reds), with very aromatic fruit profiles. I find them pretty, refreshing, and imminently quaffable, but I'm sure many would find them lean, stemmy, and/or tart. My mother in law would hate them.

Conversely the Agharta wines are bold as you please and taste very Californian to me. I got an '07 red label from Augustine a few months back as a to-go bottle and there was no lack of fruit or intensity there.
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#3298 Post by M Mager » September 26th, 2018, 4:21 pm

Mark C wrote:
September 26th, 2018, 10:02 am
And I got some ’07 Agharta syrah (red label) a while back and it is DELISH, especially for the ~$16/btl…
I went in for a bottle of this one also. When I first tasted it, I was getting a familiar flavor/texture profile, but I couldn't quite place it. Then, after a while, I realized what is was -- if I had tasted this wine blind, it would have been a dead ringer for an entry-level Amarone. If I remember correctly, the stated alcohol on this was approaching 16% -- and, at least to me, it showed.

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#3299 Post by Tom W » September 26th, 2018, 4:43 pm

M Mager wrote:
September 26th, 2018, 4:21 pm
Mark C wrote:
September 26th, 2018, 10:02 am
And I got some ’07 Agharta syrah (red label) a while back and it is DELISH, especially for the ~$16/btl…
I went in for a bottle of this one also. When I first tasted it, I was getting a familiar flavor/texture profile, but I couldn't quite place it. Then, after a while, I realized what is was -- if I had tasted this wine blind, it would have been a dead ringer for an entry-level Amarone. If I remember correctly, the stated alcohol on this was approaching 16% -- and, at least to me, it showed.

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That's the "red label", I see, 97% Syrah. I looked at my CT notes and found I really loved it even though it pushed near 16% abv and was a ripe and big - I found it really balanced. I lean strongly towards the Wind Gap end of things *usually*, but like this style too. It is possible to like bistro Loire Cab Franc, cool vintage Northern Rhone Syrah, and big, ripe, spicy, full, and deep Southern Rhones too. What kind of mood am I in and what are we eating?
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#3300 Post by K_F_o_l_e_y » October 3rd, 2018, 6:11 pm

RE: 2007 Domaine de Saint Siffrein Châteauneuf-du-Pape

"I've discussed auction values quite a bit lately and this wine is almost certain to increase in value - a lot."
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Purchase cost: $29.99 + sales tax + shipping = $36.18/bottle
Current auction: $29.16

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