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#3951 Post by Rodrigo B » November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:53 pm
Max S. wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 12:33 pm
Is Garagiste trying to give de Negoce a run for its money now?
I wasn’t familiar with deNegoce. Are the wines any good? The Pinots and Chards at $10-12/BTC sound too good to be true. Are shipping costs reasonable? I’m normally an old world drinker, but at those prices I could be convinced for every day drinking.
Shipping is $29/case
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#3952 Post by RDHudak » November 13th, 2020, 2:26 pm

Any guesses on today's Mystery Cabernet offer?
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#3953 Post by Jim Marmion » November 13th, 2020, 2:29 pm

I have 3 cases of Garagiste wines currently on their way to me. About two thirds of this parcel is mystery wine. I tell myself I do this because it should, in theory, be a way of securing solid wines for everyday drinking at decent prices. Unfortunately, the real reason is because I just can't help myself. Oh well, in for a penny..... in for 6 of this latest.

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#3954 Post by Cgomezmoreno » November 13th, 2020, 2:44 pm

Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Shipping is $29/case
Thanks, Rodrigo! Are they any good? Are they consistent? Anything specific to chase or avoid?
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#3955 Post by PeterH » November 13th, 2020, 2:46 pm

RDHudak wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:26 pm
Any guesses on today's Mystery Cabernet offer?
No, but I'm thinking they are probably from Washington. Jon has done this "mixed vintages" type of offer before. I ended up with a couple of Den Hoed, for example.
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#3956 Post by Josh McCarthy » November 13th, 2020, 2:55 pm

PeterH wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:46 pm
RDHudak wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:26 pm
Any guesses on today's Mystery Cabernet offer?
No, but I'm thinking they are probably from Washington. Jon has done this "mixed vintages" type of offer before. I ended up with a couple of Den Hoed, for example.
Den Hoed is solid, especially with Gilles making the wines. These will be great if they are in the same vein.
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#3957 Post by Rodrigo B » November 13th, 2020, 3:10 pm

Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:44 pm
Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Shipping is $29/case
Thanks, Rodrigo! Are they any good? Are they consistent? Anything specific to chase or avoid?
Carlos, I haven’t tried any of them yet, the orders I placed just started arriving at my offsite and I haven’t gotten around to grabbing them yet. Overall impressions of the wines from people that have tried it seems to be fairly positive.

Alder Yarrow did a profile on de Negoce a few months ago with some preliminary reviews of the wines on his Vinography blog.

There’s also a dedicated de Negoce tasting notes thread you can check out to see what people are saying.

I reckon what to chase/avoid depends widely on your palate and personal preferences. For most offers there are tasting notes available alongside some tech specs on the wine so you can gauge your interest that way. There’s a dedicated de Negoce where people discuss all manners of things related to de Negoce including what they believe the producer to be based on the description/clues given by Cam.
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#3958 Post by Hoang Pham » November 13th, 2020, 5:37 pm

Been enjoying the Den Hoed Marie's View & Andreas I got from the Washington cab mystery awhile back. I'll be pleasantly happy with this mystery cab if it's anywhere near that QPR of the Den Hoed.

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#3959 Post by Sean McK » November 13th, 2020, 5:53 pm

I didn't bite on today's offer, but I will be very curious about what this offer ends up being -- please share when you find out!
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#3960 Post by Max S. » November 13th, 2020, 9:49 pm

Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:53 pm
Max S. wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 12:33 pm
Is Garagiste trying to give de Negoce a run for its money now?
I wasn’t familiar with deNegoce. Are the wines any good? The Pinots and Chards at $10-12/BTC sound too good to be true. Are shipping costs reasonable? I’m normally an old world drinker, but at those prices I could be convinced for every day drinking.
I think the general consensus is its worth it, though some strongly disagree and there have been some hiccups. I'd say read through the de Negocw tasting notes thread - lots of insight there.
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#3961 Post by RDHudak » November 14th, 2020, 3:07 am

Agreed about the great deal the Den Hoed turned out to be. I'd be thrilled if it was a reload of that for the mystery deal.
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#3962 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » November 14th, 2020, 6:21 am

Has anyone received/identified these offers?

June 22 Napa Mystery Red Wine
Sept 17 Barolo Duo Mystery (2015 Barolo Single Vineyard Mystery & 2016 Barolo Single Vineyard Mystery)
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#3963 Post by M Mager » November 14th, 2020, 2:59 pm

Just an FYI on a few of the Mystery wines --

As expected, the "2018 Chianti Mystery" from 7/1 was the 2018 Fattoria di Basciano Chianti Rùfina at $8.70/bottle.

Also as pretty much expected, the "Chianti Classico Riserva Mystery" from 11/3 was the 2017 Fattoria di Fèlsina Berardenga Chianti Classico Riserva at $23.71/bottle.

The "Barolo Impossible Mystery" from 7/17 was the 2014 Covalli Barolo at $13.80/bottle.

And, finally, the "2019 Chinon - The Real Deal" from 10/15 was the 2019 G. Vallée - La Cotelleraie Chinon La Tour d'Armand at $18.70.

All and all, these were pretty good deals -- a decent amount less than I would have paid for any of them locally. YMMV.

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#3964 Post by ChrisW » November 16th, 2020, 7:02 pm

Basciano is a solid Rufina producer.

Mystery fatigue this year. Feels like there's been an uptick. The ones I've gone with have felt more like shedding stock in a difficult year than actual values (which is what the mystery is supposed to be all about). YMMV
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#3965 Post by Ethan Abraham » November 22nd, 2020, 4:22 am

Opened an old Garagiste wine that I must have bought about 10 years ago but forgot about. 2009 Francois Blanchard Le Grand Clere. The wine itself was fine, sort of generic reductive raspberry natural wine (you would never peg this is cab franc!). But the interest part, the closure was A WAXED CROWN CAP. I don't think I'd EVER seen that before! I was wondering why my corkscrew
didn't seem to be working until I noticed the tiny ridges peeking out from the wax. Why would anything thing this was a good idea? The crown cap does explain why this tasted fairly young and still reductive after so long....

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#3966 Post by Sean_S » November 22nd, 2020, 12:41 pm

Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:44 pm
Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Shipping is $29/case
Thanks, Rodrigo! Are they any good? Are they consistent? Anything specific to chase or avoid?
Most of wines are 14.5% to 16% ABV with a lot of new Oak. Big, full throttle napa style wines which I despise. So whether they're good or not depends on your perspective. There have been a few more restrained offerings but they are few and far between. I've tasted no 19 which was Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot Noir which was MEH. 50% new oak and 14.5% ABV and the no 40 cabernet which is pretty decent but needs time. I won't pop another for at least 3-5 years.

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#3967 Post by IanS » November 23rd, 2020, 10:45 am

Ken Schramm wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 5:06 am
I am curious to know if anybody has received or picked up the late May ~$30 2015 Barolo Mystery Single Crus? They were listed as summer arrivals.

Also, any feedback on the Italian Pastas from the June "Finest Pasta in the World" offer?
Ken, the BIO/organic Barolo from that offer is the 2015 Schiavenza Barolo Cerretta. Opened one last night, it's quite nice with a few hours of air, but I'll be leaving my remaining two bottles in the back of my cellar for several years. It's 15%, highly tannic, and still pretty tightly wound.
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#3968 Post by Brian Glas » November 23rd, 2020, 5:13 pm

Ken Schramm wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 5:06 am
Also, any feedback on the Italian Pastas from the June "Finest Pasta in the World" offer?
I picked up the pasta last Friday. Enjoyed them this weekend. They were good. I would buy them again. Of course I am used to buying what ever pasta is on sale at Safeway. Actually it is the Blue Zone Tomatoes that they were selling that are my new favorite.

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#3969 Post by Cgomezmoreno » November 25th, 2020, 7:27 pm

Sean_S wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 12:41 pm
Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:44 pm
Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Shipping is $29/case
Thanks, Rodrigo! Are they any good? Are they consistent? Anything specific to chase or avoid?
Most of wines are 14.5% to 16% ABV with a lot of new Oak. Big, full throttle napa style wines which I despise. So whether they're good or not depends on your perspective. There have been a few more restrained offerings but they are few and far between. I've tasted no 19 which was Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot Noir which was MEH. 50% new oak and 14.5% ABV and the no 40 cabernet which is pretty decent but needs time. I won't pop another for at least 3-5 years.

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Thanks for that, Sean! That’s the feeling I’m getting after just two weeks on the mailing list.

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#3970 Post by JMReuter » November 28th, 2020, 12:55 pm

Brian Glas wrote:
November 23rd, 2020, 5:13 pm
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October 21st, 2020, 5:06 am
Also, any feedback on the Italian Pastas from the June "Finest Pasta in the World" offer?
I picked up the pasta last Friday. Enjoyed them this weekend. They were good. I would buy them again. Of course I am used to buying what ever pasta is on sale at Safeway. Actually it is the Blue Zone Tomatoes that they were selling that are my new favorite.
The pasta is very good... but not IMHO any better than various great local options. My current favorite in this price range is Sfoglini Trumpets, which is made from "Organic American Grains" in NY (I think), and available through Whole Foods.
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#3971 Post by JonathanG » November 28th, 2020, 8:30 pm

Ok I had a few drinks today and then accidentally checked my email, and bit on the Rioja, Sauternes Brunello and Vintage Port deals. Damn those well-timed emails!
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#3972 Post by Kris Patten » November 29th, 2020, 7:48 am

I bought a couple randoms like Champagne 1er just to see.
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#3973 Post by Ron Slye » November 29th, 2020, 7:53 am

Yeah, I swore I would not buy these then grabbed four of the Cab Franc.

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#3974 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » November 29th, 2020, 8:51 am

I bit on the CdP (only 1 as I'm out of cellar space) and tried to bite on the Tuscany about 90 minutes after it hit my inbox but sold out. Passed on the others.

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#3975 Post by Toby P » November 29th, 2020, 11:58 am

Almost went in for those Riedel stems but then remembered someone mentioning the absurd shipping costs on those (thank you for the heads up on that btw). Can prob find some good glass deals with free shipping btwn Cyber Monday / year end sales
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#3976 Post by HoosJustinG » November 29th, 2020, 2:53 pm

Toby P wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 11:58 am
Almost went in for those Riedel stems but then remembered someone mentioning the absurd shipping costs on those (thank you for the heads up on that btw). Can prob find some good glass deals with free shipping btwn Cyber Monday / year end sales
Per stem price on David’s Glasvins are barely more with WB discount and it’s a significantly better product than Riedel.
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#3977 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » November 29th, 2020, 2:54 pm

JonathanG wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 8:30 pm
Ok I had a few drinks today and then accidentally checked my email, and bit on the Rioja, Sauternes Brunello and Vintage Port deals. Damn those well-timed emails!
Please post when you get them! I was tempted by the rioja but have sworn off mystery wines (for now).

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#3978 Post by Toby P » November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm

HoosJustinG wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 2:53 pm
Toby P wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 11:58 am
Almost went in for those Riedel stems but then remembered someone mentioning the absurd shipping costs on those (thank you for the heads up on that btw). Can prob find some good glass deals with free shipping btwn Cyber Monday / year end sales
Per stem price on David’s Glasvins are barely more with WB discount and it’s a significantly better product than Riedel.
Awesome, thanks for the tip - will check it out
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#3979 Post by JonathanG » November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 2:54 pm
JonathanG wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 8:30 pm
Ok I had a few drinks today and then accidentally checked my email, and bit on the Rioja, Sauternes Brunello and Vintage Port deals. Damn those well-timed emails!
Please post when you get them! I was tempted by the rioja but have sworn off mystery wines (for now).
Will do. expectations are high for the rioja at that price point. We are a big rioja household so they will be drank, just hoping its something I haven't had before.
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#3980 Post by loren.grossman » November 30th, 2020, 9:11 am

Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 3:10 pm
Cgomezmoreno wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 2:44 pm
Rodrigo B wrote:
November 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Shipping is $29/case
Thanks, Rodrigo! Are they any good? Are they consistent? Anything specific to chase or avoid?
Carlos, I haven’t tried any of them yet, the orders I placed just started arriving at my offsite and I haven’t gotten around to grabbing them yet. Overall impressions of the wines from people that have tried it seems to be fairly positive.

Alder Yarrow did a profile on de Negoce a few months ago with some preliminary reviews of the wines on his Vinography blog.

There’s also a dedicated de Negoce tasting notes thread you can check out to see what people are saying.

I reckon what to chase/avoid depends widely on your palate and personal preferences. For most offers there are tasting notes available alongside some tech specs on the wine so you can gauge your interest that way. There’s a dedicated de Negoce where people discuss all manners of things related to de Negoce including what they believe the producer to be based on the description/clues given by Cam.
FWIW, my somewhat limited tasting experiences have suggested that you are getting more or less what you pay for here. YMMV.

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#3981 Post by Cgomezmoreno » December 2nd, 2020, 4:01 pm

JonathanG wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm
Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
November 29th, 2020, 2:54 pm
JonathanG wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 8:30 pm
Ok I had a few drinks today and then accidentally checked my email, and bit on the Rioja, Sauternes Brunello and Vintage Port deals. Damn those well-timed emails!
Please post when you get them! I was tempted by the rioja but have sworn off mystery wines (for now).
Will do. expectations are high for the rioja at that price point. We are a big rioja household so they will be drank, just hoping its something I haven't had before.
It could be something from CVNE. I got the 2010 Contino GR as a mystery once around the $40 mark which if this offer is similar from a current vintage would be great. I haven’t seen Jon offer stuff from LdH, LRA or Muga, which would have been the other classics given the 20+ year drinking window. We’ll see!
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#3982 Post by M Mager » December 2nd, 2020, 8:03 pm

Cgomezmoreno wrote:
December 2nd, 2020, 4:01 pm
I haven’t seen Jon offer stuff from LdH, LRA or Muga, which would have been the other classics given the 20+ year drinking window. We’ll see!
Back in June this year, they offered a "Rioja Mystery Reserva" at just below $20/bottle. That was the 2015 Muga Reserva. Plenty o'value on that one...

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#3983 Post by Dave H. » December 3rd, 2020, 3:31 pm

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Not enough clues to make an informed guess, but maybe something from K Vintners? They have some mid-$30s bottles so a $19 deal wouldn't be crazy, they get points, alcohol often sub 15 and how many "famous" Washington State winemakers can you name? I'd be happy with that.
Anyway, I asked for 1 bottle. Low stakes dice roll.
That is a good guess since I've seen the MCK Syrah in the mid 20s at Costco.
Not sure if this has been revealed on the thread but it’s Gramercy Columbia Valley. Really nice score imo.
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