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#3001 Post by G. Singh » December 8th, 2017, 12:59 pm

Any guesses on the current Pinot "mystery" wines?
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#3002 Post by Steven Miller » December 9th, 2017, 8:44 am

For the Oregon ones, our guess was KJ clearing out stock from a recent acquisition.
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#3003 Post by G. Singh » December 10th, 2017, 2:25 am

So it should be pretty good ? My first time with a mystery box - will post what I get.
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#3004 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » December 10th, 2017, 5:02 am

G. Singh wrote:So it should be pretty good ? My first time with a mystery box - will post what I get.
Please do! It's always interesting to find out what the mystery was.

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#3005 Post by Mattstolz » December 11th, 2017, 6:18 pm

any guesses at the Barbaresco today?

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#3006 Post by todd d » December 11th, 2017, 7:25 pm

Best guess is the La Ca Nova Barb. Montestefano (96 AG/93 CT) or the Cantina Del Pino Ovello (97 WS/93 CT), though the Ovello retails closer to $50 and the Montestefano retails around $32. Betting on the Montestefano, but usually surprised when I open the box.
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#3007 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » December 20th, 2017, 6:24 pm

Opened a 2013 Le Puy Saint Martin Vin de Pays de Vaucluse tonight. Just delicious. This fits the "juicy" profile to my taste, which is one of my favorite profiles for a wine at this price point to hit. I miss the Estecillo "Nino Jesus" wines Garagiste used to bring in, but this is pretty close to the same profile, as also are a lot of wines made from mencia. Great value. Wish I'd ordered more of this one. (Edit - and it looks like this was about $12. Stunning).

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#3008 Post by John O' » January 7th, 2018, 9:06 am

Any educated guesses? Thought Duckhorn, but they only go back to the 1970's.

Dear Friends,

A 2013 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon you may want to sample!

From a long-standing house of Cabernet (1960’s) comes this estate-level rendition that is going to open many eyes. With roots dating back 50 or so years, you can obtain this wine pretty much everywhere...but not for this $ (especially the 2013 – there are reputable outlets trading 375ml’s of the 2013 for the Blue Line $ below).

Due to the sheer number of requests I’ve had for this since 2016, a bunch of you have already tasted today’s entrant and are smitten for the long haul. If it tastes anything like the 1974 version, there’s a good reason why...

That’s all I can tell you (no national critics under 90pts – the community average is also over 90pts).

This is not Mondavi but it is 2013...for $32+!

ONE SHIPMENT ONLY at the Mystery tariff with the finest/freshest original provenance available.

FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to 24/person until we run out:

2013 Mystery Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 750ml - $32.91
(compare at up to $50-65+)
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#3009 Post by Arv R » January 7th, 2018, 9:13 am

given that he said it could be found anywhere, I'm thinking a supermarket distributed cab? maybe Clos du Val or Phelps ?
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#3010 Post by Arv R » January 7th, 2018, 9:13 am

given that he said it could be found anywhere, I'm thinking a supermarket distributed cab? maybe Clos du Val or Phelps ?
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#3011 Post by jcoley3 » January 7th, 2018, 9:33 am

My guess would be Stags Leap Artemis.
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#3012 Post by John O' » January 7th, 2018, 10:49 am

jcoley3 wrote:My guess would be Stags Leap Artemis.
Wine Spectator scored 86, so that doesn't fit.
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#3013 Post by PeterH » January 7th, 2018, 8:57 pm

My first thought after Mondavi was eliminated, BV didn't fit, and most others are absorbed into various conglomerates and all continuity lost, is Heitz. No way, though, that it will resemble the 1974 vintage.
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#3014 Post by ky1em!ttskus » January 7th, 2018, 9:44 pm

CdV established in 1972.

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#3015 Post by Adam G » January 8th, 2018, 11:03 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:CdV established in 1972.
Except I've got 2013 Clos du Val for $25 on my CT list...doesn't fit the price point unless there's a higher-priced one they sell.
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#3016 Post by Troy Stark » January 11th, 2018, 10:39 am

Did anyone else bite on the Ca' Rozzeria 2013 Barolo back in October?

I resumed my investigation today and I'm fairly confident it may be one of Elio Grasso's non-reserva bottlings. Price point, hinted location, and critics' scores all seem right. I realize the true answer is "we'll never know," but it's fun to guess, no?

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The target 2013 Barolo for this year’s Ca‘ Rozzeria bottling was out of our league (as far as rational acquisition would predict) but I somehow made it happen and it’s best not to ask questions when something such as this is staring at you for what amounts to a laughable investment compared to what it normally trades for.

An acclaimed and limited 2013 bottling (that already has a critical note from one of the big three US voices (AG/WS/WA) somewhere in the 94-97pt range, this wine is HIGHLY desirable, allocated and produced in small quantities (like most of the single vineyard and/or upper-end bottles from the best producers in the environs of Monforte, Serralunga or the other tiny communes of greater Barolo).

The lowest $ I can find in the world market is around $60 (US $’s can be higher, already up to $70-80 and there hasn’t been secondary appreciation of the vintage yet).

The Ca‘ Rozzeria $?

$28+.

For the VERY TOP 2013 Barolo from the winery.

Where is it from?

I can’t tell you that but it is not Rinaldi, Chiara Boschis or Clerico.

I can tell you that it may (or not be) from a famous name between Monforte, Serralunga and Castiglione Falletto.

I can also tell you...I think you will like it...and so will your children 20-25+ years from now.

As stated with prior Ca‘ Rozzeria wines: If you have any interest in today’s missive, I urge you to respond at your earliest convenience :)

Community notes on all Ca’ Rozzeria: https://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp? ... h=rozzeria

ONE SHIPMENT ONLY of the 2013 Barolo directly from the winery cellar with the finest/freshet original provenance available – the regular “branded” wine is in such high demand, there is little incentive to feature it as a Ca‘ Rozzeria bottle (but this particular winery is a member of the Email List and they want to be part of the community big hug).

(to help the warehouse pack more efficiently, please try to order in groups of 3 – 3, 6, 9, 12, 24 – thank you in advance)

FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to 24/person until we run out:

2013 Ca‘ Rozzeria Barolo 750ml (Piedmont) - $28.71
(somewhere in the 94-97pt range from a US voice that matters)
(compare at $60-80 for the EXACT SAME branded bottle; this is not a “regular” Barolo, it is the very top single vineyard and/or equivalent top-line bottle from the winery)
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#3017 Post by Brandon R » January 11th, 2018, 11:04 am

John O' wrote:Any educated guesses? Thought Duckhorn, but they only go back to the 1970's.

Dear Friends,

A 2013 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon you may want to sample!

From a long-standing house of Cabernet (1960’s) comes this estate-level rendition that is going to open many eyes. With roots dating back 50 or so years, you can obtain this wine pretty much everywhere...but not for this $ (especially the 2013 – there are reputable outlets trading 375ml’s of the 2013 for the Blue Line $ below).

Due to the sheer number of requests I’ve had for this since 2016, a bunch of you have already tasted today’s entrant and are smitten for the long haul. If it tastes anything like the 1974 version, there’s a good reason why...

That’s all I can tell you (no national critics under 90pts – the community average is also over 90pts).

This is not Mondavi but it is 2013...for $32+!

ONE SHIPMENT ONLY at the Mystery tariff with the finest/freshest original provenance available.

FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to 24/person until we run out:

2013 Mystery Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 750ml - $32.91
(compare at up to $50-65+)
Did anyone order any of this back then? I'm curious as to what it was.
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#3018 Post by PeterH » January 11th, 2018, 11:14 am

I ordered one out of curiosity. As I said above, Heitz seems the best fit.
It hasn't arrived yet.
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#3019 Post by Brandon R » January 11th, 2018, 12:01 pm

Thanks, Peter.
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#3020 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » January 24th, 2018, 9:46 pm

OK berserkers. Any one have access to Vinous' January Chianti article?

Nightlight #760 is a typical $37 mystery tuscan that got 95 from AG in January.

He's known to deal in Fontodi. 2014 Vigna del Sorbo just got 95 points in January. Dare I dream?

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#3021 Post by Brent Bogen » January 24th, 2018, 10:04 pm

He's sold Felsina in the past too. 2014 Felsina Maestro Raro (Cabernet Sauvignon) got "95+." 2013 Felsina Chianti Classico Gran Selezione Colonia got a 95. The Colonia is my bet. There are a few others in there at 95 pts. but some would be eliminated due to price (at least the sticker price listed by AG along with some reviews).

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#3022 Post by CarterBenjamin » January 25th, 2018, 2:13 am

Brent Bogen wrote:He's sold Felsina in the past too. 2014 Felsina Maestro Raro (Cabernet Sauvignon) got "95+." 2013 Felsina Chianti Classico Gran Selezione Colonia got a 95. The Colonia is my bet. There are a few others in there at 95 pts. but some would be eliminated due to price (at least the sticker price listed by AG along with some reviews).
That wine is north of a $100...would be surprised, likely Rancia.

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#3023 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » January 25th, 2018, 6:18 am

He sells alot of Felsina, and I'm happy to buy it. But this is definitely not the '13 Colonia. That'd be a bridge too far.

I didn't know the '14 Maestro Raro got 95+. He got the '13 too (I have a few bottles of it). I'll wager on the '14 Maestro Raro.

The '13 Rancia was reviewed at 96+ by AG last year (and he's sold that a bunch already)

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#3024 Post by Brent Bogen » January 25th, 2018, 1:05 pm

CarterBenjamin wrote:
Brent Bogen wrote:He's sold Felsina in the past too. 2014 Felsina Maestro Raro (Cabernet Sauvignon) got "95+." 2013 Felsina Chianti Classico Gran Selezione Colonia got a 95. The Colonia is my bet. There are a few others in there at 95 pts. but some would be eliminated due to price (at least the sticker price listed by AG along with some reviews).
That wine is north of a $100...would be surprised, likely Rancia.
I've never purchased Colonia and AG didn't list a sticker price. It fit the other parameters. newhere

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#3025 Post by Kris Patten » January 27th, 2018, 9:11 pm

PeterH wrote:I ordered one out of curiosity. As I said above, Heitz seems the best fit.
It hasn't arrived yet.
Not Heitz.
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#3026 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » January 28th, 2018, 11:36 am

Why not?

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#3027 Post by Rob M » January 30th, 2018, 7:36 am

Does anyone know what the 2013 Barolo mystery Barolo from July 26th was?
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#3028 Post by Dennis Borczon » January 30th, 2018, 11:40 am

I jumped at the 2014 Barbaresco for $29.00. reportedly a Galloni minimum 96 point value. Please tell me i am not a fool and this was worth a blind buy...still listed at present

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#3029 Post by Mark Morrissette » January 30th, 2018, 11:51 am

I am a fool right along with you. I am an AG fan, and a 96 (+) Barbaresco $29 seemed worthy of a chance. In the past, I have been way more disappointed than not, but I bit on this one...

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#3030 Post by ATaylor » January 30th, 2018, 11:59 am

Dennis Borczon wrote:I jumped at the 2014 Barbaresco for $29.00. reportedly a Galloni minimum 96 point value. Please tell me i am not a fool and this was worth a blind buy...still listed at present
I am going to take a guess that it is one of the single vineyards (Bric Mentina or Montestefano) from Az Agr La Ca' Nova....they have sold quite a bit of their wine. Both of these are very good wines.
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#3031 Post by Warren Taranow » January 30th, 2018, 12:08 pm

ATaylor wrote:
Dennis Borczon wrote:I jumped at the 2014 Barbaresco for $29.00. reportedly a Galloni minimum 96 point value. Please tell me i am not a fool and this was worth a blind buy...still listed at present
I am going to take a guess that it is one of the single vineyards (Bric Mentina or Montestefano) from Az Agr La Ca' Nova....they have sold quite a bit of their wine. Both of these are very good wines.
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#3032 Post by Brent Bogen » January 30th, 2018, 12:10 pm

ATaylor wrote:
Dennis Borczon wrote:I jumped at the 2014 Barbaresco for $29.00. reportedly a Galloni minimum 96 point value. Please tell me i am not a fool and this was worth a blind buy...still listed at present
I am going to take a guess that it is one of the single vineyards (Bric Mentina or Montestefano) from Az Agr La Ca' Nova....they have sold quite a bit of their wine. Both of these are very good wines.
He's sold Montestefano for several consecutive vintages and it's a 96 from AG. That's my bet.

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#3033 Post by Dan.Gord0n » January 30th, 2018, 12:30 pm

I'd guess the same because AG doesn't have any other wines close to the price range at 96pts or higher....both wines seems to have a US market price of round $35 so a small price benefit, though not nearly as much as some other mystery wines.

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#3034 Post by Kris Patten » February 3rd, 2018, 2:25 pm

$16 for Lanessan 2015 today...requested a few.
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#3035 Post by Mattstolz » February 3rd, 2018, 2:37 pm

Kris Patten wrote:$16 for Lanessan 2015 today...requested a few.
whats the shipping like typically for Garagiste? 24.99 at Total Wine, and $10 off $50 coupon right now.

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#3036 Post by Kris Patten » February 3rd, 2018, 3:58 pm

I pick up at their store. Not really sure on shipping.
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#3037 Post by bryan c » February 3rd, 2018, 4:00 pm

Mattstolz wrote:
Kris Patten wrote:$16 for Lanessan 2015 today...requested a few.
whats the shipping like typically for Garagiste? 24.99 at Total Wine, and $10 off $50 coupon right now.
Shipping to southern California is around $20/case with their FedEx ground which is 2 day delivery
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#3038 Post by Mattstolz » February 3rd, 2018, 7:21 pm

Kris Patten wrote:I pick up at their store. Not really sure on shipping.
that makes the decision a lot easier (or more dangerous) when these emails go out. haha

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#3039 Post by Mattstolz » February 7th, 2018, 5:45 am

so who beat me to the $120 brunello mystery last night? and who do you think the producer is?

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#3040 Post by jeff g l o v e r » February 7th, 2018, 5:50 am

I almost bought did I miss out on this?

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#3041 Post by JC J o u a s » February 7th, 2018, 6:01 am

Mattstolz wrote:so who beat me to the $120 brunello mystery last night? and who do you think the producer is?
It could very well be Cerbaiona as he has offered Diego’s wines before.
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#3042 Post by Mattstolz » February 7th, 2018, 6:36 am

jeff g l o v e r wrote:I almost bought did I miss out on this?
looked like it was sold out when i checked at 8:30am EST

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#3043 Post by Mattstolz » February 15th, 2018, 5:49 am

2015 La Mission Haut Brion


aaaaaaaaaaand its gone. [swearing.gif]

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#3044 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » February 15th, 2018, 2:19 pm

How have folks here generally thought of his Ca’ Rozzeria releases? CT opinions of the last one were pretty good from a price to value perspective.

"2015 Ca’ Rozzeria Chianti Classico"

... (ignore the hype about the vintage) ...

A bit of riding the tidal wave of 2015 into the Tuscan sunset with ... Chianti Classico that was (luck would have it) just noted in January by one of the major US voices (let’s say, either the WA, Antonio Galloni/VM or WS)

[Galloni released his 2015 CC report in January]

The 2015 Ca’ Rozzeria Chianti Classico is a ... wine (with a ... review!) from a long-standing/lauded GR3 earning entity that we’ve become somewhat synonymous with. Like all Ca’ Rozzeria bottles, this is the exact same wine that trades under their “branded” label but we’ve cut out all the middle-folks to stay true to the Ca’ Rozzeria mantra that brings a true community effort to life – a collaboration between you, me and the producer. If you doubt this is the exact same wine as the publicly traded label, do a side-by-side with the branded 2015 and see what you think.

[Fontodi and Felsina are two wineries that JR has become quite synonymous with in Chianti]

If it's Felsina's 2015 CC, I'd be disappointed but only because I already bought a case of it.

Looking at Galloni's January report, Fontodi has a new lower end CC bottling "Filetta di Lamole"; he gave the 2015 a 91.

For $16 delivered, there's not all that much risk. I'm in for 4.

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#3045 Post by Sean_S » March 1st, 2018, 11:04 pm

December 2017 Offer for Santa Cruz Mystery Syrah is a big time winner.

2014 Waxwing Cellars Syrah (Lester Vineyards, Coralitos)

Waxwing makes some great wines. All are a balanced and very well made. The standouts for me are the Waxwing Pinot Noir and Syrah from the Lester Family Vineyards. Lester Vineyards produces powerful wines with great tannins. Big Basin, Waxwing, Cinnabar, and a quite a few more local SCM producers.

I've tasted this wine numerous times and its right up my alley. $32+ at the winery. I'm happy for $20.

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#3046 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » March 3rd, 2018, 4:14 am

Any guesses/thoughts on the Mystery Brunello (copied below)?

"One of the best Brunello deals you will ever find (with points-a-plenty from all the major US journals – most are in the 93-95pt range with suggested retail in the $70-90 range). In addition, top vintages of this wine are known to age for decades.

What!

Yup.

ALL HAVE (JUST) ARRIVED with the finest/freshest original provenance available (this is the exact same wine, cork, label and contents as what trades in the US for up to $95+; it is not 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009 or 2011)."

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#3047 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » March 3rd, 2018, 7:28 am

La lucere perhaps

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#3048 Post by M a t t W e i n s t e i n » March 3rd, 2018, 9:01 am

Nah. If there's one thing that JR is, it's a fan of touting high scores. If he says most are in the 93-95pt range that almost surely means nothing higher than 95. La Lucere had a 98 from Suckling.

I only went in for a couple on this offer (if only because I'm starting to feel like I have an overabundance of '12 Brunello... which this almost surely is).

Other possibilities: Antinori Pian Delle Vigne, Il Poggione, Canalicchio di Sopra

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#3049 Post by Kris Patten » March 3rd, 2018, 11:55 am

It's not Antinori.
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#3050 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » March 3rd, 2018, 11:58 am

The Brunelleschi sold out

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