What price per bottle do you use in cellar tracker?

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What price per bottle do you use in cellar tracker?

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Bottle only price
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net bottle cost which includes shipping and sales tax
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don't use cellar tracker
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flawed poll
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Re: What price per bottle do you use in cellar tracker?

#51 Post by PaulMills » August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am

Bryan Price wrote:
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I'm starting to give up tracking cost or even tracking inventory at this point. It's nice to see what's ready to drink, but it's starting to get time consuming entering in ~300 bottles per year!

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.

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#52 Post by Eric LeVine » August 30th, 2019, 8:27 am

PaulMills wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am
Bryan Price wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 7:35 pm
I'm starting to give up tracking cost or even tracking inventory at this point. It's nice to see what's ready to drink, but it's starting to get time consuming entering in ~300 bottles per year!

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.
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#53 Post by JordanL » August 30th, 2019, 9:33 am

Nothing like a nice even split.

I do think there's some reason to include shipping price because a $100 bottle that's a limited release that you had to ship over from Europe is different from a $100 bottle that's easy to find at a respectable store.
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#54 Post by Bryan Price » August 30th, 2019, 10:17 am

PaulMills wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am
Bryan Price wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 7:35 pm
I'm starting to give up tracking cost or even tracking inventory at this point. It's nice to see what's ready to drink, but it's starting to get time consuming entering in ~300 bottles per year!

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.
This is a preference thing, but I'd prefer to dig up an old thread rather than start a new one with the exact same point of the old one.
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#55 Post by mattccheung » August 30th, 2019, 10:25 am

If shipping is involved, then cost plus shipping. I never include tax. Also, no sales tax when I order from out of state.

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#56 Post by Jeff_M. » August 30th, 2019, 10:25 am

I don't add the tax or shipping cost. I understand those are costs I am not tracking properly but it helps me understand the price I paid per bottle year in and out.
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#57 Post by Joel Pelote » August 30th, 2019, 10:58 am

I only put the bottle price, since the other "costs" can be too nebulous and/or difficult to track. Out of curiosity, what do you input if you pick-up the wine at the winery during a pickup event? Gas and mileage? If you store your wine off-site, do you add the monthly space fees? It seems you could just keep going and going...

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#58 Post by Pat Esposito » August 30th, 2019, 11:00 am

'All in' pricing, in case I want to sell/trade down the road. That is when I remember which is rare...

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#59 Post by josh bryer » August 30th, 2019, 11:09 am

Interesting to read this thread, I never caught it the first time around.

I also only put the bottle price and exclude tax and shipping, though definitely include the vig on any auction purchase as I consider that part of the bottle price. A lot of wine is purchased on pre-arrival or when shipping needs to be held for weather (or consolidation), and since I always enter my purchases at the time of purchase rather than receipt, I often don't even have an idea of shipping cost at the time. I guess I also am not really using the feature as a way to track the all-in cost of my wine (how to factor storage?), and frankly I don't even really want to know that, as ignorance is bliss in this case I think. I use the per bottle price as an indicator of the market at the time of purchase to inform future purchases and curiosity, as well as for any potential future donation or sale of bottles.

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#60 Post by Neal.Mollen » August 30th, 2019, 11:12 am

I only use bottle cost, but encourage the rest of you to use bottle cost + tax + shipping so when I compare "My Price" to "Community Average Value" I can feel better about myself
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#61 Post by bob poirier » August 30th, 2019, 11:15 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
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I track cost (including shipping and taxes) because it gives me basis numbers for wines I donate to charity auctions and for the rare times I sell any wine.
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#62 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » August 30th, 2019, 11:30 am

I enter bottle price only, but do include the vig on auction purchases. If I'm shipping from overseas, so the cost is higher, I put a note about that in the Notes section. The price I enter in CT is most useful to me looking back weeks, months or years later to see what price I paid then relative to a new offer or vintage. That's more useful to me than having a record of my all-in cost, which certainly matters when I'm deciding whether to buy or not, but which I don't think much about once I have decided the cost is acceptable.

I used to keep a running total of what I paid for shipping over the year. I did this for a couple of years, and it didn't vary a significant amount, so now I just have it in the back of my head as a yearly expense.

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#63 Post by ChristopherSK » August 30th, 2019, 11:40 am

I do what Howard does. Cost includes shipping and taxes, but I also add on the pro rated cost for the expense of a receiving location (such as at Domaine wine cellars) if I have a half pallet or close to a pallet that they store in bulk storage. I then have 30 days to pick it all up to avoid additional fees.
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#64 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 30th, 2019, 11:43 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:12 am
I only use bottle cost, but encourage the rest of you to use bottle cost + tax + shipping so when I compare "My Price" to "Community Average Value" I can feel better about myself
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#65 Post by Mattstolz » August 30th, 2019, 1:52 pm

I've typically done just the bottle cost but this threat made me realize id probably rather do the cost + shipping. Most of the bottles I ship are ones I can't find locally but every once in a while I can get it locally but can get it cheaper online, and do this calculation anyways, as thats really the decision maker.

what I've always wondered is if people actually use the price they paid or if they use the price they tell their significant others. I often run into bottles that make me question where the heck people are getting such low prices when wine-searcher pro is nowhere near it. (e.g.: the community average for G Rinaldi 2015 Brunate is $162, but the best price I've seen online is almost $100 more than that... and its current release)

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#66 Post by Mike Evans » August 31st, 2019, 6:24 am

bob poirier wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:15 am
Howard Cooper wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:01 am
I track cost (including shipping and taxes) because it gives me basis numbers for wines I donate to charity auctions and for the rare times I sell any wine.
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I also enter my wines at their cost basis for exactly the same reason.

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Re: What price per bottle do you use in cellar tracker?

#67 Post by PaulMills » August 31st, 2019, 6:58 am

Bryan Price wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:17 am
PaulMills wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am
Bryan Price wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 7:35 pm
I'm starting to give up tracking cost or even tracking inventory at this point. It's nice to see what's ready to drink, but it's starting to get time consuming entering in ~300 bottles per year!

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.
This is a preference thing, but I'd prefer to dig up an old thread rather than start a new one with the exact same point of the old one.
But your response does not actually pertain to the post.

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#68 Post by Mattstolz » August 31st, 2019, 9:12 am

Bryan Price wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:17 am
PaulMills wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.
This is a preference thing, but I'd prefer to dig up an old thread rather than start a new one with the exact same point of the old one.
start a new thread: WHY DIDNT YOU USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION??

revive an old thread: WHY DIDNT YOU START A NEW THREAD??

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#69 Post by Neal.Mollen » August 31st, 2019, 9:23 am

Mattstolz wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 9:12 am
Bryan Price wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:17 am
PaulMills wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 4:52 am

If you enter it as you buy it, it is not very time consuming. Probably less time consuming than pulling up a ten year old thread.
This is a preference thing, but I'd prefer to dig up an old thread rather than start a new one with the exact same point of the old one.
start a new thread: WHY DIDNT YOU USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION??

revive an old thread: WHY DIDNT YOU START A NEW THREAD??
WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SEARCH FUNCTION?
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#70 Post by PaulMills » August 31st, 2019, 10:20 am

I am just grumpy.

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#71 Post by Kris Patten » August 31st, 2019, 10:57 am

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#72 Post by David Glasser » August 31st, 2019, 4:22 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:43 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:12 am
I only use bottle cost, but encourage the rest of you to use bottle cost + tax + shipping so when I compare "My Price" to "Community Average Value" I can feel better about myself
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#73 Post by K_F_o_l_e_y » August 31st, 2019, 6:07 pm

I still use CT Classic.
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#74 Post by J.Vizuete » August 31st, 2019, 6:22 pm

David Glasser wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 4:22 pm
D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:43 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 11:12 am
I only use bottle cost, but encourage the rest of you to use bottle cost + tax + shipping so when I compare "My Price" to "Community Average Value" I can feel better about myself
+1
+2
Bwahahaha.... +3. My cellar value is 20% more than price paid... probably in some part because of this
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