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Decanter cleaning suggestions?

#1 Post by AlexHay » February 20th, 2010, 9:20 am

OK, so I know that we all ought to wash immediately after emptying the decanter, but in the real world that does not always happen.

What do you do to get the inside of a decanter really clean? I have tried my dishwasher, but that failed at completing the job. I seem to recall something about scouring beads you could swish around. I cannot seem to find a good bottle brush for scrubbing anymore either.

What do you use? Thanks in advance.
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#2 Post by Bob Wood » February 20th, 2010, 9:46 am

Swirl some powdered dishwasher detergent and some water around, let sit, rinse well. Works like a charm.
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#3 Post by Steve Eisenhauer » February 20th, 2010, 9:48 am

This will sound a little crazy, but it works just fine. It was recommended by a local cider mill for reusable glass bottles and I did it many times to no ill effect.

A solution of diluted bleach. Works wonders. Just make sure to rinse well after application.
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#4 Post by Dave Dalluge » February 20th, 2010, 9:51 am

Efferdent.
Etches the glass clean as new, and has no residual smell/odors of any kind.
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#5 Post by johngonzales » February 20th, 2010, 9:54 am

Yep efferdent or any denture cleaner.
Soap, lemon juice and salt make a nice cleaning solution.
Dishwasher soap DOES do better than liquid dishsoap.
If it's really bad add some physical abrasion by adding ice or even rice to the mix and swirl.

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#6 Post by Terence T-Bone Livingston » February 20th, 2010, 10:04 am

Good lord. I would never use anything other than warm water to wash out decanters and riedel stemware.

Ever.
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#7 Post by Alex Rychlewski » February 20th, 2010, 10:12 am

Terrence,

As long as you rinse the stemware and decanter throughly serveral times, there is no problem using a chemical cleaner...

Grape shot has been suggested, but I've never tried it.

I use denture cleaner, and leave it for several days.
Not perfect, but pretty good.

As for Riedel, I leave that to rich people. I'd rather put my money into wine.

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#8 Post by Terence T-Bone Livingston » February 20th, 2010, 10:20 am

Alex Rychlewski wrote:Terrence,

As long as you rinse the stemware and decanter throughly serveral times, there is no problem using a chemical cleaner...

Grape shot has been suggested, but I've never tried it.

I use denture cleaner, and leave it for several days.
Not perfect, but pretty good.

As for Riedel, I leave that to rich people. I'd rather put my money into wine.

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Alex, I'm one of those guys who coats and rinses his glass with the wine he's about the drink. I have run into so many detergent smelly wine glasses (restaurants / tastings /etc.) that I have conditioned myself to do this every time.

For me, warm water is plenty, then a wine coating of the decanter and glass, and I'm set. No possible off aromas or flavors.

And really, no one is going to see the "empty" decanter! Their going to see it full of wine, so why go to all that trouble unless you have it displayed in your trophy case. A well seasoned decanter is a proud decanter! (sorry, that's grill talk) ;)
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#9 Post by Paul Seah » February 20th, 2010, 5:53 pm

Try baking soda. It worked wonders with my wine glasses. Not such a marked effect on my decanter, which had been stained badly by then, but still helped to make it a little clearer.
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#10 Post by Jürgen Steinke » February 21st, 2010, 3:02 am

Put some raw rice in the decanter, add some water and swirl a lot. Works pretty good. You only have to find the right amount of rice and water to be effective.

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#11 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2010, 8:34 am

I've had pretty good luck with dishwasher powder and boiling water. That removes stains. It doesn't take care of some precipitates, though. I've meant to try denture cleaners for that but never have. But I figured that if boiling dishwasher cleaner won't take it off, it's probably inert.

I have some of the Riedel beads, but they didn't work on the tougher precipitates in an antique decanter that I suspect someone used as a vase.

One caution: Dishwasher soap will etch lead glass with time. But if you only do this occasionally (I do it once every year or two), I doubt that's an issue.
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#12 Post by Doug Schulman » February 21st, 2010, 8:39 am

Terence T-Bone Livingston wrote:Good lord. I would never use anything other than warm water to wash out decanters and riedel stemware.

Ever.
Do you polish your stems? I often find that if people have been eating while they drink wine the hot water will not get the glass clean. Do you have a soap free sponge that you use? I have no problem using some dish soap. I am extremely thorough when rinsing it out.
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#13 Post by rick m » February 21st, 2010, 9:28 am

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#14 Post by John Cabot » February 21st, 2010, 9:44 am

rick m wrote:oxiclean
+1- it thoroughly removes the purple tartrate film that developes after some time.
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#15 Post by Udo Hoerhold » February 21st, 2010, 9:46 am

Terence T-Bone Livingston wrote:Good lord. I would never use anything other than warm water to wash out decanters and riedel stemware.

Ever.
Really? If the glasses have any food residue or lipstick, water alone doesn't really get it off for me. I add a drop of dish soap to a sponge and at least wipe the rim, then just rinse really well.
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#16 Post by Josh Beck » February 21st, 2010, 11:26 am

Dishwasher detergent, Oxiclean or denture cleaner, fill with hot water to the rim and let it soak. Rinse well, works great.

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#17 Post by David Moore » February 21st, 2010, 12:23 pm

+1 for Efferdent. I thought I had permanent stains, but the Efferdent has made them look new again. Very easy, too.

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#18 Post by Peter Kleban » February 21st, 2010, 1:04 pm

Pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem with putting your stemware in the dishwasher? Seems to work fine for me (admittedly none of mine is particularly fancy) [wink.gif]
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#19 Post by Jamie Goode » February 21st, 2010, 3:07 pm

I find you need to wash glasses out with detergent and a cloth, or else you won't get them properly clean. You then need to rinse thoroughly.

For the decanter, it's impossible to remove the red stain without some sort of physical abrasion. I've found rice and a bit of water quite effective. Most often though, I just rinse with hot water and then prime the decanter with a rinse of wine before I use it next.

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#20 Post by mike pobega » February 21st, 2010, 3:14 pm

I use whole coffee beans with a mild detergent and warm water.

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#21 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2010, 3:37 pm

Peter Kleban wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem with putting your stemware in the dishwasher? Seems to work fine for me (admittedly none of mine is particularly fancy) [wink.gif]
People worry about detergent residue. I've never really detected a problem with that in my case.
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#22 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2010, 3:39 pm

On stemware, my friend Claude Kolm insists on handwashing with clorine bleach. The bleach has some cleaning power and it sterilizes, and it completely evaporates. The only problem is that you need to put on old clothes that you don't mind getting bleach spots on!
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#23 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 21st, 2010, 6:57 pm

I can't imagine using bleach. I would be worried about TCA related issues. I'm also one that recognizes dish washing detergent in stemware often. I use the liquid stuff to get the more stuck on things on my stems also. I haven't had to clean a decanter yet but I the oxiclean and denture cleaner sound promising.
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#24 Post by C. Bowman » February 21st, 2010, 7:03 pm

John Cabot wrote:
rick m wrote:oxiclean
+1- it thoroughly removes the purple tartrate film that developes after some time.
That's what I'm going to use on my teeths after B.Fest II
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#25 Post by Peter Kleban » February 21st, 2010, 7:05 pm

Cris Whetstone wrote: I'm also one that recognizes dish washing detergent in stemware often.
Can you actually taste it?
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#26 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 21st, 2010, 7:11 pm

Peter Kleban wrote:
Cris Whetstone wrote: I'm also one that recognizes dish washing detergent in stemware often.
Can you actually taste it?
I notice it on the nose. A real strong mineral type of smell but not in a pleasant way. Tends to overwhelm any other aroma until you rinse the glass very thoroughly. Hand wash is the only way to go to me.
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#27 Post by Peter Kleban » February 21st, 2010, 7:23 pm

Cris Whetstone wrote:
Peter Kleban wrote:
Cris Whetstone wrote: I'm also one that recognizes dish washing detergent in stemware often.
Can you actually taste it?
I notice it on the nose. A real strong mineral type of smell but not in a pleasant way. Tends to overwhelm any other aroma until you rinse the glass very thoroughly. Hand wash is the only way to go to me.
Hmmm. I don't detect anything, but maybe you are more sensitive. I put the glasses at an angle so that all the rinse water drains out--but maybe that was also true for the ones you're talking about. I suppose it could depend on the detergent (or even the glass) as well. I just use Cascade, nothing else, and IIRC the stems are ordinary glass.
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#29 Post by AlexHay » February 22nd, 2010, 9:30 am

Thanks for all of the great replies and suggestions, everyone!

Think I will give the denture cleaner a shot.
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#30 Post by J e r e m y H@nn@h » February 22nd, 2010, 10:23 am

I use hydrogen peroxide and a drop or two of dishwashing liquid soap. Let sit for several hours and it's like new.

On a side note, Hydrogen peroxide and a laundry detergent or carpet cleaning solution will get wine stains out of carpet, clothes and just about anything else as well. Love this solution!
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#31 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 22nd, 2010, 10:27 am

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#32 Post by Brad S c h i e r » February 22nd, 2010, 10:49 am

I use 50/50 white vinegar and warm water and then let it sit overnight. Rice or some abrasive if really bad. Tends to do the job for me.

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#33 Post by Bob Wood » February 22nd, 2010, 11:41 am

I'm wondering now about WineAway. Hmmm . . . .
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#34 Post by Merrill Lindquist » February 22nd, 2010, 6:47 pm

Drop of bleach in the decanter full of water. Then plenty of rinsing, and of course, seasoning the decanter with wine before decanting the wine into it (as T-Bone suggests).
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#35 Post by G. D y e r » April 4th, 2010, 1:16 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:Drop of bleach in the decanter full of water. Then plenty of rinsing, and of course, seasoning the decanter with wine before decanting the wine into it (as T-Bone suggests).
I've been working on this issue. Tried a mild acid etch with vinegar, but this doesn't do much.

So on to bleach. The potential for TCA is a concern (this is why wineries do not use bleach), but it seems there's some safe amateur chemistry one can utilize. After using diluted bleach, then soak with dilute hydrogen peroxide. The sodium perchlorate and hydrogen peroxide react to produce table salt, water and oxygen gas. No danger here, and you get some nice fizz!

Of course I will be anal and rinse repeatedly afterward. The other advantage, aside from eliminating risk of TCA, is H2O2 is also a bleaching agent. So if you soak with hydrogen peroxide after using bleach, you will also get some bleaching action assuming you added enough H2O2.
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