The thing about a personal standard is that it doesn’t apply to anyone else. Not sure why you care about this that much.Doug Schulman wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 1:16 pmOkay, I understand what you're saying. I suppose nothing farmed with machines of any kind could be labeled vegan by your personal standard, so it still seems a bit odd to me, but I am not one to argue with your feelings on honesty and authenticity, especially now that you've explained them so clearly.Marcus Goodfellow wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 11:19 amI get your post, and used the words “my interpretation” on purpose.
I do understand what Vegan choices are. And I am happy to produce wines that don’t have animal products added in the cellar. But I also have my own need not to feel like a hypocrite. (And because I have a lot of respect for Scott, and would like him to keep buying my wines.)
My wines are there for other people to choose to support or not, and I would go out of business quickly if no one did, but they’re not just a manufactured process.
The vineyard at Whistling Ridge is a living space(for me at least) and when I am there it’s a singular whole that I am a part of and share with a host of other life. Much of which lives and dies as part of a smaller life cycle than my own, and a not insignificant amount dies when we harvest the fruit or shortly thereafter. While this isn’t something I expect anyone to understand, the process is not different for me than when we would butcher chickens or a cow growing up. Some aspect of life sacrifices for my benefit. I’m not wracked by guilt over this, but I do prefer to fully acknowledge it in my own way.
So made by vegan standards or not, I can’t put the label on the bottle while my name is on it. It’s not at all that they don’t meet the standards. It just triggers a feeling that I am disrespecting the place and process in order to inform and appeal to consumers. And whether that’s correct or not isn’t part of the equation, it’s just how it is.
The only reason I posted here to begin with was because the OP looped filtration and fining together. Then when Scott posted, and he’s a friend, I posted my thoughts. I probably shouldn’t have.
Next time you lecture me on my interpretation, I’ll just say yes sir and leave the clarification alone.