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#1 Post by J a y H a c k »

If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
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#2 Post by Mark Golodetz »

And if you tell me what the birth year is, I will stop bidding against you....
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Auctions-the reality is that these wines that are getting bid up at the last second are the wines that are selling below market. You can most likely go to wine-searcher and spend slightly more but get the wine you want at a “fair” price. Auctions are no longer the bargains that they once were as everyone is stuck at home staring at their computers instead of being at fancy dinners, parties or on vacation. Set a search criteria in wine searcher and you will get what you want at reasonable prices!
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#4 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f »

You might want to avoid the “BidAgainstHack” Reddit forum, then. Or infiltrate it.

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#5 Post by R. Frankel »

Complaining about sniping is ... well just complaining. If it makes you feel a little better, then wth.

But sniping is just normal, also known as “how to win.” My favorite anti-sniping strategy is to set my max bid 15-20% higher than current bid. Then when my winning bid is way below my max I get that double-shot of good feeling - getting a ‘deal’ and beating the snipers.

Or sometimes I snipe.
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R. Frankel wrote: February 20th, 2021, 7:34 am My favorite anti-sniping strategy is to set my max bid 15-20% higher than current bid. Then when my winning bid is way below my max I get that double-shot of good feeling - getting a ‘deal’ and beating the snipers.
Seems like a solid strategy.
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Got outbid badly on an auction Thursday night. Think there’s just a lot of people home with money to spend right now.
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My son said he will never drink so not worried. Of course I said that when I was 16.

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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 am If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
The chances of you and I ever bidding on the same wine are pretty low, so it cannot be me.
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So, a smarter bidding strategy makes them an a$$hole?
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Mark Golodetz wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:41 am And if you tell me what the birth year is, I will stop bidding against you....
Should I take that as a confession? You will be receiving your CD with the Limbaugh MP3 in the mail.
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Howard Cooper wrote: February 20th, 2021, 11:32 am
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 am If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
The chances of you and I ever bidding on the same wine are pretty low, so it cannot be me.
He was born in 1979. They had not yet discovered how to make my kind of wine by then, so of course I am almost enirely limited to that weak swill that you love. neener

I was bidding on a 1979 Amarone, if you must know.
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R. Frankel wrote: February 20th, 2021, 7:34 am Complaining about sniping is ... well just complaining. If it makes you feel a little better, then wth.

But sniping is just normal, also known as “how to win.” My favorite anti-sniping strategy is to set my max bid 15-20% higher than current bid. Then when my winning bid is way below my max I get that double-shot of good feeling - getting a ‘deal’ and beating the snipers.

Or sometimes I snipe.
1. I generally put in a max bid at two increments above my opening bottom feeder bid.
2. I have a life to live outside of bidding on wine, so sitting around and sniping at the last minute is something I rarely have time for. I am sorry for all the others who have no real life and get to sit in their mother's basement in their underwear sniping my bids.
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D@ve D y r 0 f f wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:59 am You might want to avoid the “BidAgainstHack” Reddit forum, then. Or infiltrate it.
My wife has suggested that I change my bidding ID so that the people who have figured out my ID and have no real life but just follow me around because they know that I pick the good stuff will be thrown off the trail.

On occasion, I deliberately bid on crap I do not want just for sport, so that the A$$hole outbids me on some crap. In the past 10 years, I have never ended up winning such a lot.

What's Reddit? Never heard of it. I was too busy shorting Gamestop when it peaked over $300.
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JBucholz wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:32 pm So, a smarter bidding strategy makes them an a$$hole?
No, it just means that they need to get a real life. AND, I do not really care, but since the election is over, I needed someone else to complain about.
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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:40 pm
Howard Cooper wrote: February 20th, 2021, 11:32 am
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 am If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
The chances of you and I ever bidding on the same wine are pretty low, so it cannot be me.
He was born in 1979. They had not yet discovered how to make my kind of wine by then, so of course I am almost enirely limited to that weak swill that you love. neener

I was bidding on a 1979 Amarone, if you must know.
Simple wines for simple minds. neener [snort.gif]
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You really shouldn’t buy questionable provenance auction stuff for birth year wines. Hit the London dealers and wait till the tariffs go away.
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If only there were eSnipe for winebid and other wine auction sites. Then you could snipe it yourself- put in your max bid with eSnipe when the item is listed but not have the bid placed until the final seconds of bidding. Someone needs to develop “eWineSnipe.” I bet it would not take much in terms of development and would be lucrative. And I checked: there is no “eWineSnipe.com.” “ESnipeWine?” “ISnipeWine?” Hmmm...
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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:38 pm
Mark Golodetz wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:41 am And if you tell me what the birth year is, I will stop bidding against you....
Should I take that as a confession? You will be receiving your CD with the Limbaugh MP3 in the mail.
What you really need to do is ask Mark very nicely to assist you in your search for birth year wines... flirtysmile
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I do get irritated when something gets sniped by only a few bucks. But, I’ve come to peace with just putting my max bid and letting it ride.
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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:40 pm
Howard Cooper wrote: February 20th, 2021, 11:32 am
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 am If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
The chances of you and I ever bidding on the same wine are pretty low, so it cannot be me.
He was born in 1979. They had not yet discovered how to make my kind of wine by then, so of course I am almost enirely limited to that weak swill that you love. neener

I was bidding on a 1979 Amarone, if you must know.
1979 is an underrated Burgundy vintage ...
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maureen nelson wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:24 pm
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:40 pm
Howard Cooper wrote: February 20th, 2021, 11:32 am

The chances of you and I ever bidding on the same wine are pretty low, so it cannot be me.
He was born in 1979. They had not yet discovered how to make my kind of wine by then, so of course I am almost enirely limited to that weak swill that you love. neener

I was bidding on a 1979 Amarone, if you must know.
1979 is an underrated Burgundy vintage ...
I think Jay is officially getting trolled now...
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JDavisRoby wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:21 pm I do get irritated when something gets sniped by only a few bucks. But, I’ve come to peace with just putting my max bid and letting it ride.
This. I usually don't place my bids until Sunday though. No need to drive up action on the lots I'm interested in. I also use it to avoid any sunk cost fallacies in trying to win a lot i already bid on. For WineBid specifically I usually look through the lots and highlight the lots I'm interested in and set myself an in internal max bid for those less. Then closer to the auction close I'll just place my max bid for all those lots and let the chips fall where they may.
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Sarah S wrote: February 20th, 2021, 5:40 pm
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:38 pm
Mark Golodetz wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:41 am And if you tell me what the birth year is, I will stop bidding against you....
Should I take that as a confession? You will be receiving your CD with the Limbaugh MP3 in the mail.
What you really need to do is ask Mark very nicely to assist you in your search for birth year wines... flirtysmile
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Cris Whetstone wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 pm
maureen nelson wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:24 pm 1979 is an underrated Burgundy vintage ...
I think Jay is officially getting trolled now...
Ha! You think I only drink Saxum, SQN, Myriad and Cayuse because I like flavor with my wine? In my cellar, I have two bottles of 1976 Château de la Maltroye Chassagne-Montrachet Rouge and a bottle of 1982 Hospices de Beaune Pommard Cuvée Billardet Jean Duport, which bracket 1979 pretty well. By the way, the former are the remaining two bottles from a case I bought upon release.
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CCoulson wrote: February 20th, 2021, 5:37 pm You really shouldn’t buy questionable provenance auction stuff for birth year wines. Hit the London dealers and wait till the tariffs go away.
I have been doing it for years and I got a bad bottle only once. When the plague is over and I am pressured into having another Berserkerfest, you can come and I will open a 1951 Offley Colheita or a 1951 Rivesaltas I got that way. Come to think of it, I opened one of the Offleys at BF 2.5 in 2010. Someone suggested that there was a slight bit of chlorine on the nose. My response was, "Do you really think it is the wine or perhaps the 30,000 gallon swimming pool about 10 feet behind you?"
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Jay, do you want me to check my Amarone collection? I might have a 1979. Are you looking for a specific producer?
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#29 Post by Chris Seiber »

I never really understand the angst about getting sniped. Either it means:

(1) at the last second, someone outbid you, and you would have bid higher than them if only there were time left for you to do so, or

(2) at the last second, someone bid higher than you were willing to bid, even if you'd had time to consider it.

If it's (1), why didn't you set your max bid higher in the first place? If you were actually willing to spend $70, but you put your max bid at $60 and someone else bought it for $65 a second before the auction ended, then that's just bad process on your part. You should have put $70 as your max bid.

If it's (2), then someone bid more than you were willing to pay and so that's that. It's an auction.

Back when I used to do auctions (I stopped probably 10 years ago), I actually kind of liked it when I looked Monday morning and saw I was sniped. I had my fun finding and shopping for the wine (and if you're honest with yourself, that is a fun thing of itself even apart from actually drinking the wine in question), but I didn't ultimately have to spend the money or add more bottles to my overfull collection. And there was always next week.

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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:43 pm I have a life to live outside of bidding on wine
This part confused me. champagne.gif
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#31 Post by NED VALOIS »

Ut-Oh !
'79 is my first born's year of birth too !
I bought some great cognacs for him whilst I was in Germany years ago !
I also occasionally search for a '79 deal ! [pillow-fight.gif]

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NED VALOIS wrote: February 20th, 2021, 10:32 pm Ut-Oh !
'79 is my first born's year of birth too !
I bought some great cognacs for him whilst I was in Germany years ago !
I also occasionally search for a '79 deal ! [pillow-fight.gif]
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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 am If the A$$hole who keeps lurking at auctions and outbidding me when I try to buy wines for my adult son's birth year does it one more time, I am going to hunt them down, make them listen to four hours of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, and then throw them into Sarlac's pit.
I´m certainly not the "A$$hole", but there´s an easy way to get what you want: bid way above the market price ... and you most probably get it! neener

That´s the pros and cons of auctions - the highest bidder gets the lot!

(BTW: I´m not a fan of Amarone ... but I like 1979 as a vintage in Bx, Bg and Rh ... and Germany)
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R. Frankel wrote: February 20th, 2021, 9:22 pm
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:43 pm I have a life to live outside of bidding on wine
This part confused me. champagne.gif
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PS - For those of you who had retained wise old man status, does this qualify as the current year's version of the wine-stained sweater thread?
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If you let us know exactly which wines you are bidding on each week, we’ll know which ones not to snipe.
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Alan Rath wrote: February 21st, 2021, 10:30 am If you let us know exactly which wines you are bidding on each week, we’ll know which ones not to snipe.
It is a state by state issue, but in some states that would be an illegal post by me. Really!
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J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 7:27 pm Someone suggested that there was a slight bit of chlorine on the nose. My response was, "Do you really think it is the wine or perhaps the 30,000 gallon swimming pool about 10 feet behind you?"
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#40 Post by Anton D »

JDavisRoby wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:21 pm I do get irritated when something gets sniped by only a few bucks. But, I’ve come to peace with just putting my max bid and letting it ride.
Ditto! I put in my max bid and then see if I get any “you won” emails!
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#41 Post by Eric White »

Hey Jay, I can hook you up with someone that has a bunch of '79 Barolo/Barbaresco if you're interested. Drop me a DM if so.

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#42 Post by maureen nelson »

Cris Whetstone wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:27 pm
maureen nelson wrote: February 20th, 2021, 6:24 pm
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:40 pm

He was born in 1979. They had not yet discovered how to make my kind of wine by then, so of course I am almost enirely limited to that weak swill that you love. neener

I was bidding on a 1979 Amarone, if you must know.
1979 is an underrated Burgundy vintage ...
I think Jay is officially getting trolled now...
Not by me. I had no idea (before you posted that comment) that Jay has no interest in Burgundy. He seems so smart but...

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#43 Post by Howard Cooper »

J a y H a c k wrote: February 21st, 2021, 6:41 am
R. Frankel wrote: February 20th, 2021, 9:22 pm
J a y H a c k wrote: February 20th, 2021, 3:43 pm I have a life to live outside of bidding on wine
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#44 Post by Ian S »

I'd heckle Jay, but I'd be flogging a dead horse since he has me on ignore.

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#45 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng »

Just grab a 79 laberdolive and call it a day.

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