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#51 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s »

Brian S t o t t e r wrote: February 1st, 2021, 4:31 pm I've always wanted to try a spätburgunder from Assmanhauser.
Ze Pinot von Assmanshausen ist wery good. Hella good.
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#53 Post by PeterH »

Mark Maddox wrote: February 1st, 2021, 6:31 pm Butter
There is also Cupcake, which I know no Berserker would buy.
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#54 Post by PeterH »

I would drink it, but I wouldn't serve Gorgeous Victim at a dinner if my wife was present.
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#55 Post by G. D y e r »

PeterH wrote: February 1st, 2021, 8:47 pm I would drink it, but I wouldn't serve Gorgeous Victim at a dinner if my wife was present.
The tasting notes in an active discussion of this wine reinforces the, uh, nonconsensual undertones:

"It was hard to keep my hands off of it and kept teasing me to come back for more. I tried to show some restraint and save some for tomorrow but I was too weak."

It feels like it's only a matter of time before it takes an even darker turn with a collector suggesting to keep their Gorgeous Victims locked in a cold dark cellar for years . . . .
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#56 Post by Chris Seiber »

I started a thread about this back in 2012, it's a fun reread.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75809&p=1029731

My list at the time:

1. Anything that makes a pun about zinfandel. I don't know where it was written that cheap zinfandel needs to have a pun on the word "zin" in it, but I'm not Choo-Zin to buy anything with that in the name. Cardinal Zin, 7 Deadly Zins, Earth Zin and Fire . . .

2. Wineries whose name is just the place. Santa Barbara Winery, Napa Cellars, Chateau de Puligny Montrachet, Willamette Valley Vineyards, Chateau de Sancerre. It sounds so generic to me, like if I saw a cheese whose brand name was "French Cheese," plus it's super difficult to look them up in anything online. Call me a hypocrite, I don't seem to have the same annoyance about Chateau Margaux, but who said any of this was rational?

3. Windy Oaks. Good winery, but the name sounds like some tired two story apartment complex from the 1970s with faded and cracking beige stucco on the outside.

4. 2005 The Winemakers' Collection Michel Rolland Cuvée No. 1 Château d'Arsac. I don't know if it's more the label than the name, but both are so insufferably self-aggrandizing that I can't stand it.

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I might have trouble shopping at this store.

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#58 Post by AndyK »

Nick Ellis wrote: February 1st, 2021, 5:54 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote: February 1st, 2021, 4:31 pm I've always wanted to try a spätburgunder from Assmanhauser.
I can’t see the word spätburgunder without imagining an SS Officer screaming the word at his underlings in an Indiana Jones movie. It definitely sounds a lot sexier in French.
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#59 Post by Julian Marshall »

Names have the opposite effect on me - who wouldn't like to serve a glass of Pisse-Vieille to ones' in-laws?

This one sounds fun too:

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#60 Post by Dennis Borczon »

Chris Seiber wrote: February 1st, 2021, 10:44 pm Image

I might have trouble shopping at this store.
Is this store run by the ass man?


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#61 Post by Brian Tuite »

Gonon

Because it says Gonon on the label I have real trouble finding any for sale at a reasonable price.
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#62 Post by Howard Cooper »

Dennis Borczon wrote: February 2nd, 2021, 5:09 am
Chris Seiber wrote: February 1st, 2021, 10:44 pm Image

I might have trouble shopping at this store.
Is this store run by the ass man?

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#63 Post by Jim Marmion »

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I bought this one many years ago on vacation in Majorca. Quite a cheeky little wine really.

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#64 Post by Mark Golodetz »

For those of you who know British slang, the name of Cos’ third wine, Goulee, is pretty close to Goulies, which are testicles. I did point this out to Jean Guillaume Prats in 2006, just before it came to market. Didn’t change a thing.
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Chris Seiber wrote: February 1st, 2021, 10:44 pm Image

I might have trouble shopping at this store.
You might want to steer clear of this place, too.

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2005 Schrader Vieux-Os HELL HOLE Zin...and it is!

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#68 Post by Chris Seiber »

Seems like this might have been a controversial label to serve guests in recent years.

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Greysac. Sigh.
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Tim Heaton wrote: February 2nd, 2021, 9:06 am Greysac. Sigh.
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#71 Post by Dusty Gillson »

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#72 Post by David Kubiak »

You remind me of one of my pet peeves — the horrific mispronunciation of European languages by auctioneers at major firms. You’d think they could send them for a short course in French.

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#73 Post by Oliver McCrum »

Assolo Chianti.
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#74 Post by Noah C »

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: February 1st, 2021, 4:12 pm
Alan Rath wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:50 pm Chasse-Spleen
A pretty darn good wine!
A fantastic wine- I had a bottle of 1986 Chasse Spleen and it was great. I rather like the name, an archaic usage of the word spleen is irritability because it was believed long ago that the negative feelings of sadness, anger, and jealousy arose from the spleen. Chasse is French for chase. So Chasse Spleen essentially means to "chase away negative feelings", as in "drink this wine and you'll feel good. a great name!
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#75 Post by john stimson »

I guess another is Pingus. Not because of any phallic comparisons, but because it sounds like a vestigial appendage somewhat behind the uvula. In fact, one of my tasting group members claims that he had to have his pingus removed when he was younger.

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#76 Post by Josh Grossman »

This is an assault to good design:
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Just terrible branding and design:
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#78 Post by Andrew Morris »

Chris Seiber wrote: February 1st, 2021, 10:38 pm I started a thread about this back in 2012, it's a fun reread.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75809&p=1029731

My list at the time:

1. Anything that makes a pun about zinfandel. I don't know where it was written that cheap zinfandel needs to have a pun on the word "zin" in it, but I'm not Choo-Zin to buy anything with that in the name. Cardinal Zin, 7 Deadly Zins, Earth Zin and Fire . . .

2. Wineries whose name is just the place. Santa Barbara Winery, Napa Cellars, Chateau de Puligny Montrachet, Willamette Valley Vineyards, Chateau de Sancerre. It sounds so generic to me, like if I saw a cheese whose brand name was "French Cheese," plus it's super difficult to look them up in anything online. Call me a hypocrite, I don't seem to have the same annoyance about Chateau Margaux, but who said any of this was rational?

3. Windy Oaks. Good winery, but the name sounds like some tired two story apartment complex from the 1970s with faded and cracking beige stucco on the outside.

4. 2005 The Winemakers' Collection Michel Rolland Cuvée No. 1 Château d'Arsac. I don't know if it's more the label than the name, but both are so insufferably self-aggrandizing that I can't stand it.
So, thumbs down on Briceland Vineyards? Or, does it work if it is an obscure, off the beaten path place that no one knows the name of?
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#79 Post by Chris Seiber »

Andrew Morris wrote: February 9th, 2021, 11:16 pm
Chris Seiber wrote: February 1st, 2021, 10:38 pm I started a thread about this back in 2012, it's a fun reread.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75809&p=1029731

My list at the time:

1. Anything that makes a pun about zinfandel. I don't know where it was written that cheap zinfandel needs to have a pun on the word "zin" in it, but I'm not Choo-Zin to buy anything with that in the name. Cardinal Zin, 7 Deadly Zins, Earth Zin and Fire . . .

2. Wineries whose name is just the place. Santa Barbara Winery, Napa Cellars, Chateau de Puligny Montrachet, Willamette Valley Vineyards, Chateau de Sancerre. It sounds so generic to me, like if I saw a cheese whose brand name was "French Cheese," plus it's super difficult to look them up in anything online. Call me a hypocrite, I don't seem to have the same annoyance about Chateau Margaux, but who said any of this was rational?

3. Windy Oaks. Good winery, but the name sounds like some tired two story apartment complex from the 1970s with faded and cracking beige stucco on the outside.

4. 2005 The Winemakers' Collection Michel Rolland Cuvée No. 1 Château d'Arsac. I don't know if it's more the label than the name, but both are so insufferably self-aggrandizing that I can't stand it.
So, thumbs down on Briceland Vineyards? Or, does it work if it is an obscure, off the beaten path place that no one knows the name of?
Briceland is in the Chateau Margaux category.

So, what/where is Briceland? How did you choose the name?

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#80 Post by BobMilton »

No one has mentioned Sofa King Bueno from Chronic Cellars. Goes along with Ricardo Grande and a picture of a lumber jack from the navel to the knees. I think their naming crew is the boys from the local middle school.

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#81 Post by Andrew Morris »

Chris Seiber wrote: February 10th, 2021, 8:22 am
Andrew Morris wrote: February 9th, 2021, 11:16 pm So, thumbs down on Briceland Vineyards? Or, does it work if it is an obscure, off the beaten path place that no one knows the name of?
Briceland is in the Chateau Margaux category.

So, what/where is Briceland? How did you choose the name?
Briceland is a tiny hamlet, or perhaps cluster of houses closer to the county road, in Southern Humboldt, just North of the Mendocino County line. It is located on Briceland Road, which is the one road in and out to the Lost Coast, King Range and Shelter Cove. It has road signs and still shows on maps, but there are no stores or amenities other than the winery, a charter school / community center, cemetery and volunteer fire department.

In the early days, Briceland was a logging town and a Tan Bark processing center.

My mother and step father named the winery as they established commercial production in the area. They believe, as I do, the wine is about place and people.
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P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:27 pm
P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:26 pm
Tomás Costa wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:16 pm I don't understand the issue with 'rotwein'. Doesn't it simply mean 'red wine' in German?
I had to think about that a minute since I speak German, then aha! It's an native English speaker having problems with the word "rot".
And now, of course, I see the issue with "gut".
Gift Wine. would be problematic for Germans ....

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I would have trouble buying Savage Grace, a name I just came across on the forum today. Makes me picture Fabio all rubbed down with baby oil on the label, for some reason.
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#84 Post by alan weinberg »

RichardFlack wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:33 pm
P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:27 pm
P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I had to think about that a minute since I speak German, then aha! It's an native English speaker having problems with the word "rot".
And now, of course, I see the issue with "gut".
Gift Wine. would be problematic for Germans ....
that’s what I said post 19 . . .

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#85 Post by RichardFlack »

Oops. I replied before reading on. Now I can’t delete it. Sorry.

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#86 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s »

alan weinberg wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:43 pm
RichardFlack wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:33 pm
P@u1_M3nk3s wrote: February 1st, 2021, 2:27 pm

And now, of course, I see the issue with "gut".
Gift Wine. would be problematic for Germans ....
that’s what I said post 19 . . .
They would have no problem with the Gang of Four tune "Return the Gift". But uff course!
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#87 Post by alan weinberg »

RichardFlack wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:46 pm Oops. I replied before reading on. Now I can’t delete it. Sorry.
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JBrochu wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:37 pm I would have trouble buying Savage Grace, a name I just came across on the forum today. Makes me picture Fabio all rubbed down with baby oil on the label, for some reason.
I would have a problem less from image than the contradictory message it sends. Grace is received, and hardly ever savage.
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#91 Post by Brian Curtis »

Markus S wrote: February 18th, 2021, 11:07 am
JBrochu wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:37 pm I would have trouble buying Savage Grace, a name I just came across on the forum today. Makes me picture Fabio all rubbed down with baby oil on the label, for some reason.
I would have a problem less from image than the contradictory message it sends. Grace is received, and hardly ever savage.
I've always liked that contradictory message in their name. But I'm a huge fan of their wine so I may not be impartial. FWIW, the owner/winemaker is Michael Savage and his wife's name is Grace...

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#92 Post by Morgan S »

I've paused at getting a bottle of Pride Mountain so as not to seem like making a statement, but then laughed at myself and got it anyway.

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#93 Post by AndyK »

Morgan S wrote: February 18th, 2021, 12:31 pm I've paused at getting a bottle of Pride Mountain so as not to seem like making a statement, but then laughed at myself and got it anyway.
I don't get the problem here [scratch.gif]
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#94 Post by Rodrigo B »

AndyK wrote: February 18th, 2021, 12:35 pm
Morgan S wrote: February 18th, 2021, 12:31 pm I've paused at getting a bottle of Pride Mountain so as not to seem like making a statement, but then laughed at myself and got it anyway.
I don't get the problem here [scratch.gif]
I’m guessed it’s the association of the word “pride” with LGBTQ.
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#95 Post by dougwilder »

Naming a winery after a calendar year, or street address makes search query a lot more difficult. I know a couple.
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#96 Post by PeterH »

dougwilder wrote: February 18th, 2021, 7:32 pm Naming a winery after a calendar year, or street address makes search query a lot more difficult. I know a couple.
Still not as difficult as wines named after a wide AVA designation, i.e. Willamette Valley Vineyards.
Naming a wine based on misspelling can also cause difficulty, as in Oregogne.
That leads me to a wine I wish I had not purchased for an event, a perfectly serviceable and highly discounted wine labeled OPP. I didn't have a clue, and neglected to Google.
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Re: Wines you have trouble buying because of the name

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PeterH wrote: February 18th, 2021, 9:08 pm
dougwilder wrote: February 18th, 2021, 7:32 pm Naming a winery after a calendar year, or street address makes search query a lot more difficult. I know a couple.
Still not as difficult as wines named after a wide AVA designation, i.e. Willamette Valley Vineyards.
Naming a wine based on misspelling can also cause difficulty, as in Oregogne.
That leads me to a wine I wish I had not purchased for an event, a perfectly serviceable and highly discounted wine labeled OPP. I didn't have a clue, and neglected to Google.
Actually Oregogne comes up easily on CT, not so much on Willamette Valley Vineyards [wow.gif] The one I'm thinking of is Tuck Beckstoffer creating a brand called '1975' which is the year his family moved to Napa Valley. The wines were OK, but how do you search for it?
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Re: Wines you have trouble buying because of the name

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Brian Curtis wrote: February 18th, 2021, 11:23 am
Markus S wrote: February 18th, 2021, 11:07 am
JBrochu wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:37 pm I would have trouble buying Savage Grace, a name I just came across on the forum today. Makes me picture Fabio all rubbed down with baby oil on the label, for some reason.
I would have a problem less from image than the contradictory message it sends. Grace is received, and hardly ever savage.
I've always liked that contradictory message in their name. But I'm a huge fan of their wine so I may not be impartial. FWIW, the owner/winemaker is Michael Savage and his wife's name is Grace...
Yeah, I don't understand problems with this name. I think it's a great name at several levels, not in the least representing the tension that should exist in any good wine.

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Re: Wines you have trouble buying because of the name

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Oregogne comes up easily if you spell it correctly, but what if you were going by pronunciation alone?

If searching for 1975 led you to a Mayacamas Cab for sale, the exercise was worthwhile.
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Re: Wines you have trouble buying because of the name

#100 Post by JBrochu »

dougwilder wrote: February 18th, 2021, 9:28 pm
PeterH wrote: February 18th, 2021, 9:08 pm
dougwilder wrote: February 18th, 2021, 7:32 pm Naming a winery after a calendar year, or street address makes search query a lot more difficult. I know a couple.
Still not as difficult as wines named after a wide AVA designation, i.e. Willamette Valley Vineyards.
Naming a wine based on misspelling can also cause difficulty, as in Oregogne.
That leads me to a wine I wish I had not purchased for an event, a perfectly serviceable and highly discounted wine labeled OPP. I didn't have a clue, and neglected to Google.
Actually Oregogne comes up easily on CT, not so much on Willamette Valley Vineyards [wow.gif] The one I'm thinking of is Tuck Beckstoffer creating a brand called '1975' which is the year his family moved to Napa Valley. The wines were OK, but how do you search for it?
Took me a few minutes, but I think it's actually "The Seventy Five Wine Company" which comes up pretty easy (if you know that) versus "1975" which would be impossible.
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