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William & Mary - September 22nd!

#1 Post by joejolesch » September 15th, 2020, 9:41 am

Just hit my inbox! Shifflett Ranch, Proprietary Red, and new Napa Valley designation drop next week at 9a PST Tuesday, 9/22. So excited for this one! [cheers.gif]

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#2 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » September 15th, 2020, 9:49 am

Word around the campfire is the Napa bottling is sourced from a single vineyard. I don’t know if Will is sworn to secrecy, but I understand it should provide great value.
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#3 Post by Rodrigo F. » September 15th, 2020, 9:50 am

Cant wait!
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#4 Post by Bud Carey » September 15th, 2020, 9:55 am

Been looking forward to these.
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#5 Post by MichaelLee » September 15th, 2020, 9:56 am

Will be looking forward to this as well.

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#6 Post by Anton D » September 15th, 2020, 9:56 am

Love these wines!

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#7 Post by joejolesch » September 15th, 2020, 10:08 am

Here’s the Roy Piper hype from the Rivers Marie thread:

William has a new wine, I think it's gonna be called "Pickett Road." 100% Cab from a vineyard near Araujo. The crazy part is it's only $75 per bottle. Very ripe and red-fruited, silky and ready to go, although it should go a while too. I place this bottling third of this three wines but at the price, really good. And a good one to drink while you wait for his other 18s to mature a bit.

Prop Red... this one seems very much like the previous two vintages, except more ripeness in the Franc component. Good structure, really good mouthfeel coverage, solid amount of tannin. Needs a couple years. Medium-full body, more civilized than his Cab at this stage. One of the better St, Emilion-style blends out there, although very much in the Napa-style. $95

Cabernet... well... if you've liked his style on this, get ready, as it is head and shoulders above anything he has made before. One sip and it blew me away. Juicy, in your face Napa style, with blueberry and black currant, a good dose of toasty oak. This bottling feels like the second-coming of the glory days of Schrader (in my opinion 2002-2010), especially in the mouthfeel. I keep thinking a cooler climate 2007 Schrader RBS, on release, in particular. At another level for Mr. Segui.
And at only $110... [flirtysmile.gif]

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#8 Post by Tyler F. » September 15th, 2020, 10:12 am

Just went I thought I could give my wallet a break. Excited for this one!
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#9 Post by Dennis Atick » September 15th, 2020, 10:16 am

"only" $75 per bottle. Must be nice.
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#10 Post by Chris H. » September 15th, 2020, 10:21 am

joejolesch wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:08 am
Here’s the Roy Piper hype from the Rivers Marie thread:

William has a new wine, I think it's gonna be called "Pickett Road." 100% Cab from a vineyard near Araujo. The crazy part is it's only $75 per bottle. Very ripe and red-fruited, silky and ready to go, although it should go a while too. I place this bottling third of this three wines but at the price, really good. And a good one to drink while you wait for his other 18s to mature a bit.

Prop Red... this one seems very much like the previous two vintages, except more ripeness in the Franc component. Good structure, really good mouthfeel coverage, solid amount of tannin. Needs a couple years. Medium-full body, more civilized than his Cab at this stage. One of the better St, Emilion-style blends out there, although very much in the Napa-style. $95

Cabernet... well... if you've liked his style on this, get ready, as it is head and shoulders above anything he has made before. One sip and it blew me away. Juicy, in your face Napa style, with blueberry and black currant, a good dose of toasty oak. This bottling feels like the second-coming of the glory days of Schrader (in my opinion 2002-2010), especially in the mouthfeel. I keep thinking a cooler climate 2007 Schrader RBS, on release, in particular. At another level for Mr. Segui.
And at only $110... [flirtysmile.gif]
Thanks for posting those notes, I remember reading them before, but helpful to have in the thread! I really liked the 2016 Cab, and only have 1 bottle left out of 6, but think it's actually just getting to a good point for drinking now. I am wondering if the $75 Cab will be also sold in 3-packs.
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#11 Post by Brian Tuite » September 15th, 2020, 10:41 am

Chris H. wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:21 am
joejolesch wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:08 am
Here’s the Roy Piper hype from the Rivers Marie thread:

William has a new wine, I think it's gonna be called "Pickett Road." 100% Cab from a vineyard near Araujo. The crazy part is it's only $75 per bottle. Very ripe and red-fruited, silky and ready to go, although it should go a while too. I place this bottling third of this three wines but at the price, really good. And a good one to drink while you wait for his other 18s to mature a bit.

Prop Red... this one seems very much like the previous two vintages, except more ripeness in the Franc component. Good structure, really good mouthfeel coverage, solid amount of tannin. Needs a couple years. Medium-full body, more civilized than his Cab at this stage. One of the better St, Emilion-style blends out there, although very much in the Napa-style. $95

Cabernet... well... if you've liked his style on this, get ready, as it is head and shoulders above anything he has made before. One sip and it blew me away. Juicy, in your face Napa style, with blueberry and black currant, a good dose of toasty oak. This bottling feels like the second-coming of the glory days of Schrader (in my opinion 2002-2010), especially in the mouthfeel. I keep thinking a cooler climate 2007 Schrader RBS, on release, in particular. At another level for Mr. Segui.
And at only $110... [flirtysmile.gif]
Thanks for posting those notes, I remember reading them before, but helpful to have in the thread! I really liked the 2016 Cab, and only have 1 bottle left out of 6, but think it's actually just getting to a good point for drinking now. I am wondering if the $75 Cab will be also sold in 3-packs.
I’m thinking that the 3-pack minimum was to ensure he doesn’t get screwed on shipping as he subsidizes shipping. He’s mixed 3-packs in the past so it’s not like he requires you to purchase 3 of everything you want.
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#12 Post by Bud Carey » September 15th, 2020, 11:06 am

I'll be buying at least a case. This is a no-brainer for me.
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#13 Post by Peter Valiquette » September 15th, 2020, 11:09 am

I've been waiting for this release all year. Skipped a whole bunch of other offers just to save for this one.

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#14 Post by Chris H. » September 15th, 2020, 11:17 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:41 am
Chris H. wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:21 am
joejolesch wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:08 am
Here’s the Roy Piper hype from the Rivers Marie thread:

William has a new wine, I think it's gonna be called "Pickett Road." 100% Cab from a vineyard near Araujo. The crazy part is it's only $75 per bottle. Very ripe and red-fruited, silky and ready to go, although it should go a while too. I place this bottling third of this three wines but at the price, really good. And a good one to drink while you wait for his other 18s to mature a bit.

Prop Red... this one seems very much like the previous two vintages, except more ripeness in the Franc component. Good structure, really good mouthfeel coverage, solid amount of tannin. Needs a couple years. Medium-full body, more civilized than his Cab at this stage. One of the better St, Emilion-style blends out there, although very much in the Napa-style. $95

Cabernet... well... if you've liked his style on this, get ready, as it is head and shoulders above anything he has made before. One sip and it blew me away. Juicy, in your face Napa style, with blueberry and black currant, a good dose of toasty oak. This bottling feels like the second-coming of the glory days of Schrader (in my opinion 2002-2010), especially in the mouthfeel. I keep thinking a cooler climate 2007 Schrader RBS, on release, in particular. At another level for Mr. Segui.
And at only $110... [flirtysmile.gif]
Thanks for posting those notes, I remember reading them before, but helpful to have in the thread! I really liked the 2016 Cab, and only have 1 bottle left out of 6, but think it's actually just getting to a good point for drinking now. I am wondering if the $75 Cab will be also sold in 3-packs.
I’m thinking that the 3-pack minimum was to ensure he doesn’t get screwed on shipping as he subsidizes shipping. He’s mixed 3-packs in the past so it’s not like he requires you to purchase 3 of everything you want.
Brian, thanks for the heads up on mixing a 3 pack, I was unaware of this!!
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#15 Post by T. Melloni » September 15th, 2020, 11:25 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
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"only" $75 per bottle. Must be nice.
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#16 Post by mattcitrang » September 15th, 2020, 12:12 pm

Dennis Atick wrote:
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"only" $75 per bottle. Must be nice.
I’ll let you know when I open one.

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#17 Post by NickRut » September 15th, 2020, 12:25 pm

Was hoping this would be delayed more as my credit card is still smoking from previous purchases. Oh well - will be hoping for at least a case. Always love the wines.
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#18 Post by T. Altmayer » September 15th, 2020, 2:01 pm

Had the '17 Proprietary this weekend and it was a wonderful wine, but I think this needs time in the bottle to be even more special.
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#19 Post by Jen M a s o n » September 15th, 2020, 6:05 pm

The ‘17 cab was by far the best Napa cab of the vintage for me. Haven’t even tried my ‘16s yet. Can’t wait for these ‘18’s.

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#20 Post by SeanHarding » September 15th, 2020, 7:16 pm

I could have sworn I was already on this list, but I didn't get any save the date, so I just signed up "again."

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#21 Post by Josh Grossman » September 15th, 2020, 8:01 pm

Is this the best wine with no waiting list?

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#22 Post by Tyler F. » September 15th, 2020, 8:41 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
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Is this the best wine with no waiting list?
I think this will change in the coming years. But I'm hard pressed to think of another option here. So yes. :)
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#23 Post by Craig G » September 15th, 2020, 9:04 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
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Is this the best wine with no waiting list?
Petrus? Lafleur?

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#24 Post by Len Stevens » September 16th, 2020, 5:17 am

Thanks to Mr. Piper, I've been anticipating this release. I'm in for a case of the Proprietary red and 6 bottles of the other two cuvees.

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#25 Post by Keith Koshk!n » September 16th, 2020, 9:25 am

These wines are fantastic and represent great value even in the ~$100 range. I haven't cracked the 2017s yet; perhaps I will open a bottle this weekend to check in on that vintage before ordering.

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#26 Post by Jim Stewart » September 16th, 2020, 9:32 am

A voice in one ear is tempting me, but in the other ear a voice is singing "oh no, William & Mary won't do"
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#27 Post by Greg Smith » September 16th, 2020, 9:58 am

I have been a buyer in the past but also didn't get a Save-the-Date. Are others getting one?

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#28 Post by Rajesh P a r i k h » September 16th, 2020, 10:02 am

Greg Smith wrote:
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I have been a buyer in the past but also didn't get a Save-the-Date. Are others getting one?
I received one and was a '16 and '17 buyer. Maybe check your junk folder?

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#29 Post by NickRut » September 16th, 2020, 10:52 am

Greg Smith wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:58 am
I have been a buyer in the past but also didn't get a Save-the-Date. Are others getting one?

Email Will. I would imagine He’ll either explain the rationale or put you back on (if you’ve been taken off).
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#30 Post by KenL. » September 16th, 2020, 12:43 pm

Jim Stewart wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:32 am
A voice in one ear is tempting me, but in the other ear a voice is singing "oh no, William & Mary won't do"
It took me a minute to get that reference. 😆
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#31 Post by Brian Tuite » September 16th, 2020, 3:08 pm

KenL. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 12:43 pm
Jim Stewart wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:32 am
A voice in one ear is tempting me, but in the other ear a voice is singing "oh no, William & Mary won't do"
It took me a minute to get that reference. 😆
Neither will Guadalajara from what I hear.
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#32 Post by Nicholas C » September 20th, 2020, 8:36 am

For those who have gone through a William & Mary allocation window before how are the wines typically made available for purchase? In groups of 3 or loose bottles? What about mags, are they usually available?
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#33 Post by Bdklein » September 20th, 2020, 8:49 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:08 pm
KenL. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 12:43 pm
Jim Stewart wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:32 am
A voice in one ear is tempting me, but in the other ear a voice is singing "oh no, William & Mary won't do"
It took me a minute to get that reference. 😆
Neither will Guadalajara from what I hear.
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#34 Post by J Wiltanger » September 20th, 2020, 11:52 am

Nicholas C wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 8:36 am
For those who have gone through a William & Mary allocation window before how are the wines typically made available for purchase? In groups of 3 or loose bottles? What about mags, are they usually available?
Pack of 3 but others have said Will has worked with others to create orders.
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#35 Post by joejolesch » September 20th, 2020, 1:01 pm

Bud Carey wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:06 am
I'll be buying at least a case. This is a no-brainer for me.
100%. Currently planning on 3/3/6 despite an already overflowing cellar...

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#36 Post by Tyler F. » September 20th, 2020, 4:01 pm

joejolesch wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 1:01 pm
Bud Carey wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:06 am
I'll be buying at least a case. This is a no-brainer for me.
100%. Currently planning on 3/3/6 despite an already overflowing cellar...
(3) Shifflett Ranch, (3) Proprietary Red, and (6) Napa Valley?
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#37 Post by joejolesch » September 20th, 2020, 4:31 pm

Tyler F. wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:01 pm
joejolesch wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 1:01 pm
Bud Carey wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:06 am
I'll be buying at least a case. This is a no-brainer for me.
100%. Currently planning on 3/3/6 despite an already overflowing cellar...
(3) Shifflett Ranch, (3) Proprietary Red, and (6) Napa Valley?
Was thinking 3 NV, 3 PR, 6 SR [cheers.gif]

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#38 Post by Tyler F. » September 20th, 2020, 4:37 pm

joejolesch wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:31 pm
Tyler F. wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:01 pm
joejolesch wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 1:01 pm


100%. Currently planning on 3/3/6 despite an already overflowing cellar...
(3) Shifflett Ranch, (3) Proprietary Red, and (6) Napa Valley?
Was thinking 3 NV, 3 PR, 6 SR [cheers.gif]
Still debating which way to put together a case, but this is probably my plan, too.
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#39 Post by NickRut » September 20th, 2020, 6:13 pm

Tyler F. wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:37 pm
joejolesch wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:31 pm
Tyler F. wrote:
September 20th, 2020, 4:01 pm


(3) Shifflett Ranch, (3) Proprietary Red, and (6) Napa Valley?
Was thinking 3 NV, 3 PR, 6 SR [cheers.gif]
Still debating which way to put together a case, but this is probably my plan, too.
Just go 12/12/12... safest bet
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#40 Post by Ryan A » September 20th, 2020, 7:39 pm

Nick I like the way you think
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#41 Post by joejolesch » September 21st, 2020, 7:15 am

I like how Nick thinks, too, just don’t have the storage! I guess I could just drink heavily until these ship...

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#42 Post by Gray G » September 21st, 2020, 2:06 pm

just had a taste of the 16 Cabernet....fantastic color, beautiful and brooding on the nose, smooth, deep and wonderful on the palate
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#43 Post by NickRut » September 21st, 2020, 8:09 pm

joejolesch wrote:
September 21st, 2020, 7:15 am
I like how Nick thinks, too, just don’t have the storage! I guess I could just drink heavily until these ship...

I mean I can think of worst problems to have.

Hard to not take max allocation but we’ll see. This has been an expensive wine year already. May have to limit to 12-18 bottles.
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#44 Post by ray ormand » September 21st, 2020, 8:50 pm

If I went 12/12/12 my wife would give me 12 days to find a new place to live.

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#45 Post by Keith Koshk!n » September 21st, 2020, 9:27 pm

ray ormand wrote:
September 21st, 2020, 8:50 pm
If I went 12/12/12 my wife would give me 12 days to find a new place to live.
Wow, she must be very understanding. There's no way I would be afforded 12 days. Maybe 3.

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#46 Post by Anton D » September 22nd, 2020, 8:15 am

45 MINUTES.
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#47 Post by NickRut » September 22nd, 2020, 8:48 am

ray ormand wrote:
September 21st, 2020, 8:50 pm
If I went 12/12/12 my wife would give me 12 days to find a new place to live.

Ha - I’d catch some flak.

Still debating quantities. Such a challenge. I think this is the last major allocation of the year.
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#48 Post by Nicholas C » September 22nd, 2020, 9:14 am

Can anyone access their offering yet?
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#49 Post by William Segui » September 22nd, 2020, 9:17 am

Nicholas C wrote:
September 22nd, 2020, 9:14 am
Can anyone access their offering yet?
It just went live, was having some cart/checkout issues that were beyond my ability to fix.

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#50 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 22nd, 2020, 9:23 am

In for 6 and a mag of shifflett; one of my fav offerings of the year. Birth year for my daughter so hope the mag will age long term!

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