At What Price Point Will You Boycott The 2008 Taittinger Comtes?

[Michael S. Monie]

Perhaps redundant knowing there are other threads regarding this Champagne, but this is meant to be comprehensive regarding how much you are or are not willing to pay. So if you have bought Comtes in past vintages, what is your cutoff point for the 2008. For me: anything higher than $150.

[ybarselah]

funny just saw it offered for $153 of all prices. guess you're out!

[ChrisL]

$150 seems about right for me. People tend to think it will be an eventual waiting game for the prices to drop below this threshold.

[crickey]

If not buying wine because the price is more than I want to pay for it constitutes boycotting, I am currently boycotting thousands of wines!

[AndyK]

It's a sliding scale... A case at $120, 4-6bottles at $140, max 2 at $160, nothing if above $160

[Robert M yers]

Remember, we had the same conversation with 08 Dom early. It eventually settled to its regular pricing.

[Anton D]

If not buying wine because the price is more than I want to pay for it constitutes boycotting, I am currently boycotting thousands of wines!

Are you not buying any wines that you bought in the past?

[Marshall Manning]

If not buying wine because the price is more than I want to pay for it constitutes boycotting, I am currently boycotting thousands of wines!

I thought the same thing. A "boycott" is a much more active, punitive thing than just not buying something because the price is too high.

[Howard Cooper]

If not buying wine because the price is more than I want to pay for it constitutes boycotting, I am currently boycotting thousands of wines!

I thought the same thing. A "boycott" is a much more active, punitive thing than just not buying something because the price is too high.

Agreed. My favorite wines are from Jacky Truchot. If he were still making wine, I would hope I would be buying them. But, in today's world, his wines on the secondary market go for a tremendous amount of money. I am not boycotting his wines. I drink what I have, lovingly. I just don't buy more because the price is too high.

The OP just used the wrong word. Boycotting is not a proper word for what he is getting at. It is an improper use of the term.

[Michael S. Monie]

boycott
[ˈboiˌkät]
VERB
withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.
"we will boycott all banks which take part in the loans scheme"


I won't just not buy it. I'm protesting what I consider to be an unreasonable price increase.

[Br1an Th0rne]

Received a few offers in the $180 range. Easy pass for me at this price, as I would be surprised if the market will stomach such a significant increase in these macabre times. No rush, there is an ocean of great champagne out there. If it falls to $130 I will buy in quantity; if $150 just a few bottles.

[T. Altmayer]

I bought a case of '06 at an average price of $110. It is too quick for a 50% price increase so will only buy a couple and only if I can find it around $150.

[Kirk.Grant]

I'm with others...I paid $130/bottle for my Dom P in the NH wine outlets. So I'm guessing my max price is going to be somewhere around $140/bottle. Otherwise I'll just buy more from the houses I do think are still a value.

[P L owet]

I won't just not buy it. I'm protesting what I consider to be an unreasonable price increase.

I only wish that luxury champagne price increases were in my Top 100,000 reasons to protest in today's world.

Somehow, Taittinger has succeeded at changing its perceived value, at least among respondents in this thread. While the 2006 was typically purchased at ~$110, posters here are prepared to buy at least some of the 2007 at $130/$140/$150. Pretty good marketing when an 18%-36% increase (even for a great vintage) is acceptable just because >50% isn't!
FWIW, we drink very few luxury cuvée bottles, but I'm in for one at $145 pre-arrival.
Regards,
Peter

[Mark Golodetz]

At $125 -135 will buy a couple of cases. $136-155 3 bottles. $155-165 will buy one bottle, and taste blind against Dom and Cristal and the 2006 Taittinger.

At $166+, I will avoid, boycott whatever.

[Jerry Hey]

$150 is my limit. Too many other great Champagnes for a lot less than that.

[Sc0tt F!tzger@ld]

$130 if I’m going to buy more than a few bottles.

[RyanC]

At $125 -135 will buy a couple of cases. $136-155 3 bottles. $155-165 will buy one bottle, and taste blind against Dom and Cristal and the 2006 Taittinger.

At $166+, I will avoid, boycott whatever.

This is just about where I am

[Craig G]

This reminds me of when I stopped buying Chave Hermitage because it went over $100.

[Yao C]

My husband and I both like CdC, and it's rare for our tastes to intersect that well. Unless the price gets truly crazy (like well in excess of $200) I'll probably buy a bunch

[David Glasser]

It's a sliding scale... A case at $120, 4-6bottles at $140, max 2 at $160, nothing if above $160

This looks about right for me.

[k s h i n]

FWIW, DP wholesale is cheaper than European negotiants where CDC is cheaper in Europe. CDC has been cheaper than DP historically by $20 or more. I say wait. Euro vs $ is 10% higher so this is a factor as well. One issue is that you have to buy equal amount of the 07 to get to the 08.

[alan weinberg]

$150 is my limit. Too many other great Champagnes for a lot less than that.

I have a Woodland Hills 6 pack futures order confirmed but any more will be at $150 or less. As Jerry says, there’s lots out there.

[Michael S. Monie]

FWIW, DP wholesale is cheaper than European negotiants where CDC is cheaper in Europe. CDC has been cheaper than DP historically by $20 or more. I say wait. Euro vs $ is 10% higher so this is a factor as well. One issue is that you have to buy equal amount of the 07 to get to the 08.

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

[Mark Golodetz]

FWIW, DP wholesale is cheaper than European negotiants where CDC is cheaper in Europe. CDC has been cheaper than DP historically by $20 or more. I say wait. Euro vs $ is 10% higher so this is a factor as well. One issue is that you have to buy equal amount of the 07 to get to the 08.

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

In other words, the Champagne is excellent, and they want to get full boat for it.

[William Kelley]

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

Not sure how you can say this when the wine hasn't been released...

[Kris Patten]

FWIW, DP wholesale is cheaper than European negotiants where CDC is cheaper in Europe. CDC has been cheaper than DP historically by $20 or more. I say wait. Euro vs $ is 10% higher so this is a factor as well. One issue is that you have to buy equal amount of the 07 to get to the 08.

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

Seems like you are speaking without any actual information or data. In the US it could very well be their importer or retailers seeing what people will pay before price settles once released.

DP produces millions of bottles, Taitting produces 250k to 300k at most, it really should be more than DP but isn't since they spend zero on campaigns and celebrity endorsements and specialty packaging.

I would say everyone who loved CdC at $125 will still love it, and just like wines like Allemand, etc.....people have now discovered a great marque in Champagne that delivers value.

[Michael S. Monie]

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

Not sure how you can say this when the wine hasn't been released...

Not sure how the wine not yet being released has to do with a very large price increase if the pre-arrival offers are an indication. Do you doubt the validity of what Kevin is saying about being coerced to buy an equal amount of the 2007 in order to get the 2008?

[Michael S. Monie]

FWIW, DP wholesale is cheaper than European negotiants where CDC is cheaper in Europe. CDC has been cheaper than DP historically by $20 or more. I say wait. Euro vs $ is 10% higher so this is a factor as well. One issue is that you have to buy equal amount of the 07 to get to the 08.

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

Seems like you are speaking without any actual information or data. In the US it could very well be their importer or retailers seeing what people will pay before price settles once released.

DP produces millions of bottles, Taitting produces 250k to 300k at most, it really should be more than DP but isn't since they spend zero on campaigns and celebrity endorsements and specialty packaging.

I would say everyone who loved CdC at $125 will still love it, and just like wines like Allemand, etc.....people have now discovered a great marque in Champagne that delivers value.

I won't be loving it at a 50% price increase. It will be an easy pass. Why are they having trouble moving the 2007?

[Mark Golodetz]

I regularly rail against the three tier system here. Not only is it a license to print money, but all too often games are played keeping back supply while demand heats up. Cristal 2008 and 2012 was $50 a bottle less in Europe. So I am curious to see the price differential in Europe and retail US. My guess is that we will again be seeing $30-50.

[Kris Patten]

Taittinger seems to be milking the strength of the vintage and critical acclaim for everything that it's worth!

Seems like you are speaking without any actual information or data. In the US it could very well be their importer or retailers seeing what people will pay before price settles once released.

DP produces millions of bottles, Taitting produces 250k to 300k at most, it really should be more than DP but isn't since they spend zero on campaigns and celebrity endorsements and specialty packaging.

I would say everyone who loved CdC at $125 will still love it, and just like wines like Allemand, etc.....people have now discovered a great marque in Champagne that delivers value.

I won't be loving it at a 50% price increase. It will be an easy pass. Why are they having trouble moving the 2007?

Again, you are just guessing and positing no actual information. I haven't even seen an FOB for 2008 Comtes from Kobrand. We were cruising with 2007 until every restaurant in WA closed due to Covid-19, so perhaps the restaurant/somm community that sells much of the Comtes in the US not being able to buy and this little thing called a pandemic have hurt the 2007....I say maybe as I have no data nationally, only locally.

[Mike Hawkins]

Even at $200 I’m a buyer in quantity. It’s that good...

[Mattstolz]

If not buying wine because the price is more than I want to pay for it constitutes boycotting, I am currently boycotting thousands of wines!

its not that I can't afford DRC, im just boycotting it!

[Jay Miller]

It's a sliding scale... A case at $120, 4-6bottles at $140, max 2 at $160, nothing if above $160

This is pretty much where I am as well, give or take a few dollars.

The question for them will be if there are enough price-insensitive buyers to pick up the slack from people like myself who splurged on it because it was a great value.

[Mich@el Ch@ng]

I’ll probably buy some more regardless of price; the term boycott is used here like the term defund has been used lately.

[Michael S. Monie]

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[AAgrawal]

For those who can't interpret the previous copy/paste:
'08 Comtes at Woodland Hills for $220, '07 for $130.

Given that WHWC was previously the only retailer who sold the '08 for ~$125, this is interesting. Not sure if they got some new information, or why the new price is so much higher (and higher than other retailers).

[Tom Reddick]

Even at $200 I’m a buyer in quantity. It’s that good...

That is my line of thinking as well. There are many data points to suggest the price should go up or down- but the fact remains that Taittinger has long been, and all the more so now, the most attractively priced wine in its peer group. Provided one likes the style, there is no reason to think of it in terms of QPR any differently than Dom, Krug or Cristal IMHO.

I am anticipating it will hit the Texas market for around $200 base price- meaning $170ish with case discount. I am good for a couple of cases at that price- and a six pack of the Rose if its price point remains in historical proportion with the Blanc de Blanc.

[Jeff P]

Got offered the 08 Comtes from Total Wine at $200 p/bottle. Yikes

[CJ Beazley]

Just got an offer from Total $199.00/$189.00 on six

[Chris Crutchfield]

I like me some Comtes, but at these prices it's an easy pass.

[Jay Miller]

I like me some Comtes, but at these prices it's an easy pass.

Yep

[T. Williams]

Just got an offer from Total $199.00/$189.00 on six

I just got the same offer. Pass for me.

TW

[DanielP]

I don't understand, I thought the prices weren't going to be released until next month?

[Curtis Chen]

Wild prices. Not planning to drop $160+ on Comtes. I'll wait.

[Gerry Morrisey]

Just got an offer from Total $199.00/$189.00 on six

I just got the same offer. Pass for me.

TW

+1

[James Lyon]

Just got an offer from Total $199.00/$189.00 on six

I just got the same offer. Pass for me.

TW

+1

And the regular TW price is $230.

[RyanC]

We're gonna look back nostalgically at the endless $109.99 offers for '06 Comtes

[dbailey]

We're gonna look back nostalgically at the endless $109.99 offers for '06 Comtes

How about buying cases of it at M&S for £56 all in!