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#1 Post by Lee Schear » September 7th, 2020, 12:26 pm

In my cab collection, I have a mish-mash of all four (Howell Mtn, Mt. Veeder, Spring Mtn and Diamond Mtn) Lokoyas. Any opinions out there if one is more collectible than the other? I think all their wines are terrific...

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#2 Post by Victor Hong » September 7th, 2020, 1:12 pm

The old Liparita vineyard began to contribute Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot to Lokoya since 1997. What a steal of a land purchase.
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#3 Post by Kris Patten » September 7th, 2020, 2:09 pm

Mt. Veeder is the best and hardest to find IMO, maybe the best expression of Mt. Veeder Cabernet produced.
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#4 Post by Roy Piper » September 7th, 2020, 2:21 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
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Mt. Veeder is the best and hardest to find IMO, maybe the best expression of Mt. Veeder Cabernet produced.
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#5 Post by Jim Clary » September 8th, 2020, 9:31 am

My favorite Lokoya was the old Rutherford bottling that they stopped making years ago. I remember drinking '96 and '97 vintages (I think that is correct) that were superb. Never heard why they stopped. Lokoya has always been a favorite, even though I don't buy it anymore.
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#6 Post by K. Tr@n » September 8th, 2020, 9:45 am

If anything, you cannot buy Mt. Veeder or Howell Mountain directly without buying the other two. I tried, but they said no.
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#7 Post by MikeL238 » September 14th, 2020, 12:32 pm

Has anyone tried their '97 vintages of Mt. Veeder or Howell Mountain lately?
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#8 Post by Keith_B » September 14th, 2020, 4:37 pm

I’m guessing that Rutherford fruit might go into Freemark Abbey now that they’ve pivoted to all mountain fruit. I can’t recall if it was Lokoya or Cardinale but one shifted some of their valley floor fruit to Freemark Abbey (since they are all Jackson Family).
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#9 Post by Ian S » September 14th, 2020, 7:36 pm

Lokoya improved nicely when Chris Carpenter took over in the 2001 vintage. Not that it was shabby before.
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#10 Post by Kris Patten » September 14th, 2020, 8:28 pm

Keith_B wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 4:37 pm
I’m guessing that Rutherford fruit might go into Freemark Abbey now that they’ve pivoted to all mountain fruit. I can’t recall if it was Lokoya or Cardinale but one shifted some of their valley floor fruit to Freemark Abbey (since they are all Jackson Family).
It used to be a pyramid for fruit selection based on price. Lokoya first, Verite, Cardinale, down the line.
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#11 Post by J3ff S@g@n » September 15th, 2020, 9:16 am

Just got the email no 17 vintage release

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#12 Post by ncostanzo1 » September 15th, 2020, 10:34 am

Ian S wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 7:36 pm
Lokoya improved nicely when Chris Carpenter took over in the 2001 vintage. Not that it was shabby before.
If COVID ever lets us back into dine in, should go see if Chris is still tending bar at the Rutherford Grill on Friday nights. It's been years since I've been out there to see him. Such a funny guy and great winemaker to boot.
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#13 Post by Aleks V » September 15th, 2020, 1:26 pm

ncostanzo1 wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:34 am
Ian S wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 7:36 pm
Lokoya improved nicely when Chris Carpenter took over in the 2001 vintage. Not that it was shabby before.
If COVID ever lets us back into dine in, should go see if Chris is still tending bar at the Rutherford Grill on Friday nights. It's been years since I've been out there to see him. Such a funny guy and great winemaker to boot.
Yeah, he’s a really solid winemaker and his juice at multiple price points is great.

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#14 Post by z_hart » September 15th, 2020, 2:47 pm

Lee Schear wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 12:26 pm
In my cab collection, I have a mish-mash of all four (Howell Mtn, Mt. Veeder, Spring Mtn and Diamond Mtn) Lokoyas. Any opinions out there if one is more collectible than the other? I think all their wines are terrific...
Mt Veeder usually gets the higher scores and is the biggest, boldest and most tannic. It also needs the most aging before its really ready to drink. But, most would likely say it is the most 'collectible'.

Drinking wise, the Howell Mountain is my favorite followed in very close second by Diamond Mountain. The Spring Mountain bottling is a fantastic expression of Spring Mountain and fun to drink with the other appellations, but I myself lack reasons to seek out that particular wine.
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