Champagne losing its fizz as global pandemic clobbers sales

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Champagne losing its fizz as global pandemic clobbers sales

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"In victory you deserve Champagne. In defeat, you need it".
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“Remember gentlemen, it’s not just France we are fighting for, it’s Champagne!” – Winston Churchill

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Ya, but where are the deals???? We see deals on just about everything except Champagne
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#3 Post by Brian S t o t t e r »

And this is without tariffs.
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#4 Post by Max S. »

Hellllo cheap Champagne... they'll take their licks just like we all are, but 2021 should be a better year for everyone.
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#5 Post by Tom G l a s g o w »

Brent S wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:30 pm Ya, but where are the deals???? We see deals on just about everything except Champagne
Diebolt-Valois Prestige Blanc de Blanc for $40 in a couple of recent offers.

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I’m doing what I can to prop them up...
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#7 Post by Max S. »

Also, this kind of grinds my gears a little bit:
Vranken said the very essence of champagne marketing -- as a drink quaffed at parties and weddings -- needs to be re-evaluated to reflect the new normal: Fewer festivities and a lack of celebratory group events.
I understand you can get a bottle of Champagne for $20, but it's probably iffy at best. When most of your entry-level good stuff is $50+, your average Joe isn't going to pop a bottle on Tuesday night with a burger regardless of whether it's natty/organic.
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AD Northup wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:38 pm I’m doing what I can to prop them up...
Me too, dude.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
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2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:52 pm
AD Northup wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:38 pm I’m doing what I can to prop them up...
Me too, dude.
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Blake Brown wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:55 pm
Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:52 pm
AD Northup wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:38 pm I’m doing what I can to prop them up...
Me too, dude.
Me 3 dudes
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#11 Post by AD Northup »

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Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 6:06 pm
Blake Brown wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:55 pm
Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:52 pm
Me too, dude.
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#13 Post by Arv R »

In the end they are making an agricultural commodity product. When demand shifts, they'll feel it, and can either adapt by changing prices to find the new market clearing point, or sit on unsold stocks, while their former customers discover substitute commodities.

Somehow the Champenois convinced themselves that marketing/positioning changed their products attributes to make it truly special, as if was a mobile phone chip or life saving drug, which can command real economic rents.
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Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:52 pm
AD Northup wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:38 pm I’m doing what I can to prop them up...
Me too, dude.
I am also, sirs.
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AD Northup wrote: July 31st, 2020, 6:10 pm champagne.gif
Frank Murray III wrote: July 31st, 2020, 6:06 pm
Blake Brown wrote: July 31st, 2020, 5:55 pm

Me 3 dudes
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#16 Post by Brent S »

I buy entirely too much Champagne. Hoping to see some better deals in the future but not holding my breath.
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