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#101 Post by Peter Panzica » September 15th, 2020, 11:16 am

Looks like I’ll be getting an allocation. Don’t remember signing up but I must have on the recommendation from this board. I see the bump in price on the secondary market but don’t know much about the wine. Someone want to give me the scoop. I’m trying to not jump on every list as I’m on too many.

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#102 Post by John Webber » September 15th, 2020, 11:39 am

Signed-up 9/6/18 and got the email.

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#103 Post by AD Northup » September 15th, 2020, 11:42 am

John Webber wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:39 am
Signed-up 9/6/18 and got the email.
3/30/18 and no email for me...
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#104 Post by cjsavino » September 15th, 2020, 11:44 am

Peter Panzica wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:16 am
Looks like I’ll be getting an allocation. Don’t remember signing up but I must have on the recommendation from this board. I see the bump in price on the secondary market but don’t know much about the wine. Someone want to give me the scoop. I’m trying to not jump on every list as I’m on too many.
These are well made California sparkling wines, go for the three pack, you will not be disappointed
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#105 Post by Rodrigo F. » September 15th, 2020, 11:49 am

If anyone want to share an allocation in the NY area let me know! Would be more than happy to include you in my xmas list this year if you do!
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#106 Post by Frank Z » September 15th, 2020, 11:55 am

I looked back through my emails and I had signed up around August 2018. Not too sure how they determined who got an allocation.
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#107 Post by Curtis Chen » September 15th, 2020, 12:17 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:42 am
John Webber wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:39 am
Signed-up 9/6/18 and got the email.
3/30/18 and no email for me...
I demand an inquiry!! [swearing.gif]
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#108 Post by AD Northup » September 15th, 2020, 12:19 pm

Curtis Chen wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 12:17 pm
AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:42 am
John Webber wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:39 am
Signed-up 9/6/18 and got the email.
3/30/18 and no email for me...
I demand an inquiry!! [swearing.gif]
Don’t think I’ve ever seen Michael Cruse on here that I can remember but would love to know. If nothing by tonight may ask via email...if someone else beats me to it, let me know!
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#109 Post by ykwon » September 15th, 2020, 12:34 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:42 am
John Webber wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 11:39 am
Signed-up 9/6/18 and got the email.
3/30/18 and no email for me...
I signed up a day before you and no soup for me as well.
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#110 Post by Frank Z » September 15th, 2020, 12:48 pm

Could someone post the full notes/release letter - just want to get a better sense of everything... Thanks!
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#111 Post by John Webber » September 15th, 2020, 12:52 pm

It's very possible I signed-up twice and lost the other email.

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#112 Post by Alex N » September 15th, 2020, 12:56 pm

Frank Z wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 12:48 pm
Could someone post the full notes/release letter - just want to get a better sense of everything... Thanks!
Making still wines is a slow process compared to say, building a chair. Generally there is feedback along the way, and after fermentation the surprises are, hopefully, over. Making sparkling wine on the other hand has a different feel. There's still the first part of harvest and élevage, but then comes the black box of secondary fermentation. Locked away in a tirage bin, sur lies, for 40+ months, the resultant wine has a homecoming of sorts. Disgorging a vintage for the first time can surprise, and the wines of 2016 did that for us. They are excellent.

The 2016 vintage was our 7th with Charlie Heintz. It was an extremely early vintage, with the Pinot Noir being picked on the 15th of August and the Chardonnay soon after, on the 2nd of September. For reference, the extremely early 2020 vintage had us picking Pinot Noir and Chardonnay in August -- a first. Often we confuse earliness with late season heat, riper fruit, and lower acidity, but that is absolutely not the case in 2016. The wines are linear and powerful and represent a refinement in the style of Ultramarine. The Blanc de noirs is one of my favorite wines to date. It’s pure, smoky and savory, with a hint of berry jam and fruitiness on the nose, and an extremely long finish. The Blanc de blancs has its signature aromas of pâtisserie and lemon curd that is always present. Surprisingly the wine is light and almost playful while still retaining its salty, mineral finish. The Rosé is a pale pink with a strong character of strawberry cream and an intense acidity that adds structure and body. It is an alluring wine.

These wines are definitely on the more serious side and represent many years of learning and perfecting of our technique, both in the vineyard and at the winery. Those who wait six months to a year post disgorgement will be greatly rewarded. On the other hand, those looking for something to toast to good health in 2021 should look to the Blanc de blancs first and know that we’ll be doing the same.

Finally, we are offering a few bottles of the late disgorged 2012. These wines are not guaranteed, but sold on a first come, first-served basis. We have about a hundred bottles of both the Blanc de blancs and the Blanc de noirs that we have left on lees in bottle for a total of 7 years. The acidity in both has mellowed and integrated. The wines overall are significantly richer than the normal disgorgements. We do think of these wines as experiments and not a “better” Ultramarine. Enjoy them with that in mind and we’d love to hear your feedback.

Wishing you all the best of health. Thank you so much for your continued support and help in making Ultramarine the wine that it is today.

Cheers,
Michael and the rest of the Ultramarine crew.

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Wines are available only in a 3-pack. Your allocation for the 2016 Selection is guaranteed for two days and then will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis to the rest of our mailing list.
*The 2012 vintage wines are not sold as part of your guaranteed allocation.
*Any wish list requests for the 2016 Rosé will be granted on September 18th if available, and you will be notified via email.

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We will be shipping via FedEx the first week of December, weather permitting, and will contact you prior to shipping. We are sorry, but there is no pick up option this release.
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#113 Post by Frank Z » September 15th, 2020, 1:25 pm

Thanks Alex! Now I can jump directly into purchasing tomorrow...
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#114 Post by Bdklein » September 15th, 2020, 2:14 pm

Any idea what time the offer opens ?
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#115 Post by AD Northup » September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm

For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
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1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
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#116 Post by Curtis Chen » September 15th, 2020, 2:20 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm
For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
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#117 Post by Rodrigo F. » September 15th, 2020, 2:24 pm

I'm going to throw another hail mary out there and remind the lucky ones that if for whatever reason you don't plan to take your allocation I'm more than willing to keep you on the list by taking it for you!...
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#118 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » September 15th, 2020, 2:54 pm

Just got my 3 rosé bottles I wishlisted!

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#119 Post by Douglas Breen » September 15th, 2020, 4:01 pm

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:54 pm
Just got my 3 rosé bottles I wishlisted!
Me too. Very excited. Didn’t get any Rose in 2012 and 2013. Time to pull a 2014 Rose to celebrate.

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#120 Post by Rich Brown » September 15th, 2020, 4:18 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm
For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
Nice man! Gotta appreciate strong customer service like that!

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#121 Post by AD Northup » September 15th, 2020, 4:20 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 4:18 pm
AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm
For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
Nice man! Gotta appreciate strong customer service like that!

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Absolutely, makes supporting them all that much nicer!
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2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

2019 WsOTY:
1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
2002 Perrier-Jouet Belle Époque
2005 Faja dos Padres Malvasia

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#122 Post by Nick F. » September 16th, 2020, 6:10 am

Will the send another email when allocations open? I don't see any in my account
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#123 Post by Frank Z » September 16th, 2020, 7:08 am

Nick F. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 6:10 am
Will the send another email when allocations open? I don't see any in my account
As per the email that was sent out yesterday, they will send an full release letter later this morning (presumably) with tasting notes when they open the allocation.
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#124 Post by Nick F. » September 16th, 2020, 7:14 am

Teaches me to read
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#125 Post by J.Vizuete » September 16th, 2020, 7:24 am

ykwon wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:59 am
I signed up in 2018 and haven’t received an offer.
same
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#126 Post by Frank Z » September 16th, 2020, 9:02 am

Order in! If only we could wishlist for more!
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#127 Post by KyleC » September 16th, 2020, 9:02 am

Order for 1 3-pack in!

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#128 Post by Mike C. » September 16th, 2020, 9:03 am

Allocated one 3-pack, took it. No option for single bottles of rose.
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#129 Post by Bdklein » September 16th, 2020, 9:09 am

Mike C. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:03 am
Allocated one 3-pack, took it. No option for single bottles of rose.
+1
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#130 Post by Mark Morrissette » September 16th, 2020, 9:13 am

Mike C. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:03 am
Allocated one 3-pack, took it. No option for single bottles of rose.
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#131 Post by John Preston » September 16th, 2020, 9:13 am

Bdklein wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:09 am
Mike C. wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:03 am
Allocated one 3-pack, took it. No option for single bottles of rose.
+1
Same. I cancelled my yoga class just to make sure I was available to order ; )

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#132 Post by Gus Siokis » September 16th, 2020, 9:18 am

First year with an allocation and purchased the 3-pack as well. (Signed up for the list in October 2018)

Does anyone know if they do tastings at their facility in CA?
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#133 Post by S teve R edenbaugh » September 16th, 2020, 9:19 am

Finally allocated one 3-pack...will be hard to wait for December.

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#134 Post by Mark Y » September 16th, 2020, 9:31 am

Finally. Come on December!
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#135 Post by John Webber » September 16th, 2020, 9:33 am

In for my lone mixed 3-pack, but $29.37 for shipping 3 bottles ground is brutal. $86.83 per bottle with that freight. I can get some entry level Cedric Bouchard for that.

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#136 Post by Mark Y » September 16th, 2020, 9:38 am

John Webber wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:33 am
In for my lone mixed 3-pack, but $29.37 for shipping 3 bottles ground is brutal. $86.83 per bottle with that freight. I can get some entry level Cedric Bouchard for that.
Actually I do plan to taste the bdN blind against a Bouchard Val Vilaine.
Pretty similar price point? Curious to see style difference and personal preference.
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#137 Post by John Webber » September 16th, 2020, 9:39 am

Gus Siokis wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:18 am
First year with an allocation and purchased the 3-pack as well. (Signed up for the list in October 2018)

Does anyone know if they do tastings at their facility in CA?
I have tasted with Cruse and saw the Ultramarine bottles walking through, but I doubt they taste that label with such low production. I could be wrong.

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#138 Post by John Webber » September 16th, 2020, 9:41 am

Mark Y wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:38 am
John Webber wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:33 am
In for my lone mixed 3-pack, but $29.37 for shipping 3 bottles ground is brutal. $86.83 per bottle with that freight. I can get some entry level Cedric Bouchard for that.
Actually I do plan to taste the bdN blind against a Bouchard Val Vilaine.
Pretty similar price point? Curious to see style difference and personal preference.
I was offered the Val Vilaine last month for $75 plus shipping, so possibly cheaper depending on shipping costs.

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#139 Post by Mark Morrissette » September 16th, 2020, 9:45 am

Based on notes I have seen, it does not seem these are meant for extended cellaring, is that right? The consensus I have seen suggests drinking within +/- 5 years of release.

I know they have not been around long enough to have any real experience, but does anyone have any different thoughts on the ageability of these?

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#140 Post by ATaylor » September 16th, 2020, 10:54 am

AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm
For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
Ditto here; signed up in 2018 and the only emails I received were sorry no allocation. Emailed them and they came back saying that they showed I passed but have now corrected and order in! champagne.gif
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#141 Post by Mark Y » September 16th, 2020, 11:10 am

John Webber wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:41 am
Mark Y wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:38 am
John Webber wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:33 am
In for my lone mixed 3-pack, but $29.37 for shipping 3 bottles ground is brutal. $86.83 per bottle with that freight. I can get some entry level Cedric Bouchard for that.
Actually I do plan to taste the bdN blind against a Bouchard Val Vilaine.
Pretty similar price point? Curious to see style difference and personal preference.
I was offered the Val Vilaine last month for $75 plus shipping, so possibly cheaper depending on shipping costs.
will be fun to try side by side!
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#142 Post by ykwon » September 16th, 2020, 11:16 am

ATaylor wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:54 am
AD Northup wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:19 pm
For those confused why they don’t have an offer like me, I emailed and they got back very quickly. It looks like their system said I got an offer and passed last year even though I had the “sorry no allocation” email...Jenn has been kind enough to make sure I’m included tomorrow.
Ditto here; signed up in 2018 and the only emails I received were sorry no allocation. Emailed them and they came back saying that they showed I passed but have now corrected and order in! champagne.gif
Got the same and Jenn fixed me up. Should be good holiday drinking!
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#143 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » September 16th, 2020, 12:53 pm

Mark Morrissette wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:45 am
Based on notes I have seen, it does not seem these are meant for extended cellaring, is that right? The consensus I have seen suggests drinking within +/- 5 years of release.

I know they have not been around long enough to have any real experience, but does anyone have any different thoughts on the ageability of these?
Mark, my opinion is these will age much longer than 5 years. The 2011s were drinking great 8 years after vintage with a lot of life left.

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#144 Post by Mark Morrissette » September 16th, 2020, 1:12 pm

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 12:53 pm
Mark Morrissette wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:45 am
Based on notes I have seen, it does not seem these are meant for extended cellaring, is that right? The consensus I have seen suggests drinking within +/- 5 years of release.

I know they have not been around long enough to have any real experience, but does anyone have any different thoughts on the ageability of these?
Mark, my opinion is these will age much longer than 5 years. The 2011s were drinking great 8 years after vintage with a lot of life left.
Great, thank you.

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#145 Post by Gus Siokis » September 16th, 2020, 1:19 pm

John Webber wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:39 am
Gus Siokis wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:18 am
First year with an allocation and purchased the 3-pack as well. (Signed up for the list in October 2018)

Does anyone know if they do tastings at their facility in CA?
I have tasted with Cruse and saw the Ultramarine bottles walking through, but I doubt they taste that label with such low production. I could be wrong.
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#146 Post by Mattstolz » September 16th, 2020, 2:55 pm

got my allocation of the three pack today! think I also signed onto the list in early 2018, but I couldn't be positive. been at least two years of waiting I know for sure though.

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#147 Post by Bdklein » September 16th, 2020, 3:01 pm

Production up? Or lots of people not buying or not doing wishlist?
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#148 Post by Steve Crawford » September 16th, 2020, 4:07 pm

Bdklein wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Production up? Or lots of people not buying or not doing wishlist?
my guess is both to a degree

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#149 Post by KenL. » September 16th, 2020, 4:34 pm

In for a three pack. Excited for these.
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#150 Post by BenW » September 16th, 2020, 5:03 pm

Mattstolz wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 2:55 pm
got my allocation of the three pack today! think I also signed onto the list in early 2018, but I couldn't be positive. been at least two years of waiting I know for sure though.
I think I'm in the same boat - 2ish years waiting and three pack today... couldn't be happier because if I was allocated any more I would have felt obligated to buy it! [cheers.gif]
B.Williams

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