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D@vid Bu3ker
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Re: Ultramarine Email

#151 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » September 16th, 2020, 5:05 pm

Steve Crawford wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 4:07 pm
Bdklein wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Production up? Or lots of people not buying or not doing wishlist?
my guess is both to a degree
The original email said production was up.
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#152 Post by Fred Daniels » September 17th, 2020, 9:02 pm

Love these wines but I'm vexed at trying to get any specifics of the cuvees by vintage...grape/vineyard makeup, production, drinking windows, etc. With regular ol' Cali bubbly I only care peripherally, but if we are talking about trying to make a garagiste or artisanal wine that aficionados will follow over time then I think more info would be desirable.

We used to see that kind of info on Williams Selyem and Kosta Browne from when they first started out and it help me build an appreciation for those early wines. I'm hoping we can get the same here...Shout out to Mike O. at Carlisle for keeping it up all these years...and the folks at Ridge, too.
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Re: Ultramarine Email

#153 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » September 18th, 2020, 5:33 am

Fred Daniels wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 9:02 pm
Love these wines but I'm vexed at trying to get any specifics of the cuvees by vintage...grape/vineyard makeup, production, drinking windows, etc. With regular ol' Cali bubbly I only care peripherally, but if we are talking about trying to make a garagiste or artisanal wine that aficionados will follow over time then I think more info would be desirable.

We used to see that kind of info on Williams Selyem and Kosta Browne from when they first started out and it help me build an appreciation for those early wines. I'm hoping we can get the same here...Shout out to Mike O. at Carlisle for keeping it up all these years...and the folks at Ridge, too.
There's nothing mysterious about the grape source. It's Heintz Vineyard (Sonoma Coast).

As for drinking windows, we really don't know how far out they may extend...yet. That being said, the 2011s (oldest ones I have) are still going strong - youthful even.
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Re: Ultramarine Email

#154 Post by m. ristev » September 18th, 2020, 7:53 am

if someone wants my allocation, send me a message!
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#155 Post by Rodrigo F. » September 18th, 2020, 8:01 am

m. ristev wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 7:53 am
if someone wants my allocation, send me a message!
PM Sent!
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#156 Post by Demian Saenz » September 18th, 2020, 12:09 pm

I received the no soup for me email😢

Maybe next year.

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#157 Post by Juliec » September 18th, 2020, 12:51 pm

Yes same here. I was excited to receive the email until I read the context.
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#158 Post by Rodrigo F. » September 18th, 2020, 12:51 pm

Anyone want to part with a bottle or two in the NYC let me know. Thanks
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#159 Post by Bdklein » September 18th, 2020, 1:58 pm

So what's so great about Ultramarine ? Can you get similar sparkling wine or Champagne at a similar price point ?
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#160 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 18th, 2020, 2:07 pm

Bdklein wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 1:58 pm
So what's so great about Ultramarine ? Can you get similar sparkling wine or Champagne at a similar price point ?
It’s pretty unique. It’s very different from Champagne; not necessarily better, just different. I posted a note recently that may be of interest.

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#161 Post by KyleC » September 18th, 2020, 4:37 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 5:33 am
Fred Daniels wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 9:02 pm
Love these wines but I'm vexed at trying to get any specifics of the cuvees by vintage...grape/vineyard makeup, production, drinking windows, etc. With regular ol' Cali bubbly I only care peripherally, but if we are talking about trying to make a garagiste or artisanal wine that aficionados will follow over time then I think more info would be desirable.

We used to see that kind of info on Williams Selyem and Kosta Browne from when they first started out and it help me build an appreciation for those early wines. I'm hoping we can get the same here...Shout out to Mike O. at Carlisle for keeping it up all these years...and the folks at Ridge, too.
There's nothing mysterious about the grape source. It's Heintz Vineyard (Sonoma Coast).

As for drinking windows, we really don't know how far out they may extend...yet. That being said, the 2011s (oldest ones I have) are still going strong - youthful even.
Is it 100% Heintz though? Matthiasson lists Ultramarine as one of their clients for their Michael Mara vineyard.

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Re: Ultramarine Email

#162 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » September 18th, 2020, 4:40 pm

KyleC wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 4:37 pm
D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 5:33 am
Fred Daniels wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 9:02 pm
Love these wines but I'm vexed at trying to get any specifics of the cuvees by vintage...grape/vineyard makeup, production, drinking windows, etc. With regular ol' Cali bubbly I only care peripherally, but if we are talking about trying to make a garagiste or artisanal wine that aficionados will follow over time then I think more info would be desirable.

We used to see that kind of info on Williams Selyem and Kosta Browne from when they first started out and it help me build an appreciation for those early wines. I'm hoping we can get the same here...Shout out to Mike O. at Carlisle for keeping it up all these years...and the folks at Ridge, too.
There's nothing mysterious about the grape source. It's Heintz Vineyard (Sonoma Coast).

As for drinking windows, we really don't know how far out they may extend...yet. That being said, the 2011s (oldest ones I have) are still going strong - youthful even.
Is it 100% Heintz though? Matthiasson lists Ultramarine as one of their clients for their Michael Mara vineyard.
The label says Heintz vineyard.

Oh who cares anyway. It’s not like California has hundreds of years of terroir expression to defend.
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Re: Ultramarine Email

#163 Post by PaulMills » September 18th, 2020, 5:45 pm

A friend gave me a 2015 UM. I will be drinking it this weekend. I ordered my mixed three pack minutes after the email came in. Hopefully I will get more next release.

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