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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#201 Post by James Billy » September 14th, 2020, 2:32 am

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But I don't believe he is doing anything other than drawing the attention of the riesling drinking community to his wines.

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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#202 Post by Robert Dentice » September 14th, 2020, 3:31 am

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Big GG 2019-Arrivage tasting tonight. Stay tuned......and with some surprises. Fasten-your-seatbelts.


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Very excited for this!
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#203 Post by Robert Dentice » September 14th, 2020, 3:31 am

Martin Zwick wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 2:13 am
Big GG 2019-Arrivage tasting tonight. Stay tuned......and with some surprises. Fasten-your-seatbelts.


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Very excited for this!
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#204 Post by Russell Faulkner » September 14th, 2020, 5:00 am

First GGs got delivered here today!

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#205 Post by dvansteenderen » September 14th, 2020, 1:59 pm

This Friday the 133. Prädikatsweinversteigerung in Trier is planned, very much looking forward to tasting the wines there. There will be some GG's there like last year, but the main focus is (happily) on Kabinett and up...
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#206 Post by Robert Dentice » September 14th, 2020, 3:05 pm

dvansteenderen wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 1:59 pm
This Friday the 133. Prädikatsweinversteigerung in Trier is planned, very much looking forward to tasting the wines there. There will be some GG's there like last year, but the main focus is (happily) on Kabinett and up...
Please report back!
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#207 Post by Martin Zwick » September 14th, 2020, 3:06 pm

Clear winner of the GG 2019 Arrival Tasting, Bürklin-Wolf and Keller.

B-W Kirchenstück GG

Keller Hubacker GG& B-W Ungeheuer GG

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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#208 Post by Andrew K. » September 14th, 2020, 3:14 pm

TL;DR this thread, but I did go in on 2019 Prum WS, Donnhoff, Muller and Lauer and also put in some bids at the VDP and Nahe.

Will definitely add more as they are more widely released later.
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#209 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » September 14th, 2020, 3:24 pm

Trying to explain to my wife why I want to be up at 6am to watch the livecast of the VDP Grosser auction was fun :P
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#210 Post by Andrew K. » September 14th, 2020, 3:29 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 3:24 pm
Trying to explain to my wife why I want to be up at 6am to watch the livecast of the VDP Grosser auction was fun :P
Ooof I missed that. And I have to tune in early because Muller is near the top. :(
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#211 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » September 14th, 2020, 3:30 pm

Andrew K. wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 3:29 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 3:24 pm
Trying to explain to my wife why I want to be up at 6am to watch the livecast of the VDP Grosser auction was fun :P
Ooof I missed that. And I have to tune in early because Muller is near the top. :(
Luckily it's 7am for you.

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#212 Post by David_K » September 14th, 2020, 4:15 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
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Trying to explain to my wife why I want to be up at 6am to watch the livecast of the VDP Grosser auction was fun :P
Seek help
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#213 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » September 14th, 2020, 4:25 pm

David_K wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 4:15 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 3:24 pm
Trying to explain to my wife why I want to be up at 6am to watch the livecast of the VDP Grosser auction was fun :P
Seek help
She loves German wines as well, wasn't a rough argument ;)
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#214 Post by Barry L i p t o n » September 14th, 2020, 4:46 pm

Any thoughts on Weil Kiedricher Grafenburg GG in 2019.

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#215 Post by dvansteenderen » September 16th, 2020, 11:29 am

Robert Dentice wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 3:05 pm
dvansteenderen wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 1:59 pm
This Friday the 133. Prädikatsweinversteigerung in Trier is planned, very much looking forward to tasting the wines there. There will be some GG's there like last year, but the main focus is (happily) on Kabinett and up...
Please report back!
Will do !
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#216 Post by Barry L i p t o n » September 27th, 2020, 6:59 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
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Fun timing. Spoke with Lara at Schloss Lieser recently. She loved the 2019s and said it reminded her of 2015. Harvested 40% less than 2018.
Hmm, 2015 is nothing like 2001.
Just for my education, how so?

If Lara is saying it reminds them of 2015, I may hold off buying from them this vintage.
Do folks still think 2019 is like 2015? Brian, im guessing you don’t think so.
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#217 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » September 27th, 2020, 7:00 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 6:59 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
May 25th, 2020, 1:34 pm
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Hmm, 2015 is nothing like 2001.
Just for my education, how so?

If Lara is saying it reminds them of 2015, I may hold off buying from them this vintage.
Do folks still think 2019 is like 2015? Brian, im gussying you don’t think so.
Barry,

Most of the wines have not been shipped yet. We don’t know.
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#218 Post by Matt Latuchie » September 27th, 2020, 8:47 pm

I’m pretty stoked for 2019. I’m usually a paradikat guy, but am finding myself going dry a lot this vintage. No idea why. Whatever.
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#219 Post by Matt Latuchie » September 27th, 2020, 8:47 pm

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#220 Post by Howard Cooper » September 28th, 2020, 6:36 am

Matt Latuchie wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 8:47 pm
I’m pretty stoked for 2019. I’m usually a paradikat guy, but am finding myself going dry a lot this vintage. No idea why. Whatever.
Is a paradikat guy one who likes to drink Prädikat level German wines like Kabinetts or Spatlesen while eating parakeets?
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#221 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » September 28th, 2020, 6:42 am

Anyone buying 2019 Peter Lauer wines? I bought some of the Kupp and Schonfels GGs, but just saw the offer from Flatiron with the rest of the line-up (not including much of the pradikats, just one auslese and the rest were dry and off-dry). The Senior, Stirn, and Unterstenberg were on my list of possible buys.
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#222 Post by A.Gillette » September 28th, 2020, 6:57 am

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
September 28th, 2020, 6:42 am
Anyone buying 2019 Peter Lauer wines? I bought some of the Kupp and Schonfels GGs, but just saw the offer from Flatiron with the rest of the line-up (not including much of the pradikats, just one auslese and the rest were dry and off-dry). The Senior, Stirn, and Unterstenberg were on my list of possible buys.
I bought the 7, 8, 10 and 14, plus the auction kabinett, as well as the GGs. I don’t get as excited about the stirn, Unterstenberg and kern as I do the pradikat and GGs. I’m bummed there was no LGK this year, but I heard that there are TBA that I assume were held back for a future auction, and those will be can’t miss for me when they are released.
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#223 Post by Paul McCourt » September 28th, 2020, 9:11 am

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
September 28th, 2020, 6:42 am
Anyone buying 2019 Peter Lauer wines? I bought some of the Kupp and Schonfels GGs, but just saw the offer from Flatiron with the rest of the line-up (not including much of the pradikats, just one auslese and the rest were dry and off-dry). The Senior, Stirn, and Unterstenberg were on my list of possible buys.
I bought some Seniors.
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#224 Post by Jayson Cohen » September 28th, 2020, 9:21 am

A.Gillette wrote:
September 28th, 2020, 6:57 am
I don’t get as excited about the stirn, Unterstenberg and kern . . . .
Is there a reason? I’m asking because I’m considering these now but have no real experience cellaring Lauer except the Senior.

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#225 Post by Howard Cooper » September 28th, 2020, 9:40 am

I bought some 2015 Lauer wines and liked them, but not as much as I like the wines of some other producers. So, unless I try some 2019s and really like them, I doubt I will buy 2019s from Lauer.
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#226 Post by Kirk.Grant » September 28th, 2020, 9:50 am

We got married in 2019...so there will be a lot across the board from Kabinett to GG
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Re: 2019 German Riesling

#227 Post by A.Gillette » September 28th, 2020, 9:59 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
September 28th, 2020, 9:21 am
A.Gillette wrote:
September 28th, 2020, 6:57 am
I don’t get as excited about the stirn, Unterstenberg and kern . . . .
Is there a reason? I’m asking because I’m considering these now but have no real experience cellaring Lauer except the Senior.
Just personal preference. I buy a bottle here and there but don’t cellar in quantity like I do some of the others. I think the Lauer pradikat wines, particularly at the higher levels, are up there with the best, and the GGs get a little better each year (kupp sounds special this year).
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