TN: 2001 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese

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TN: 2001 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese

#1 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 22nd, 2020, 5:39 pm

  • 2001 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (5/22/2020)
    1st of 4 bottles, purchased at auction. Consumed from a Grassl Mineralite glass.

    With one swirl, sniff, and taste and I'm transported back to the Mosel and our visit to the JJ Prum estate a couple years ago. A layer of petrol and smoke provides a delicate cover for vibrant citrus notes, including tangerine peel and mandarin orange, Kaffir lime leaves, peach tea, green apple, and slate. Concentrated apricot and peach notes on the palate yet there is a light and elegant mouthfeel, with well-incorporated sweetness and acidity, and a finish that lingers for minutes.

    This wine feels like it's only starting its evolution along a long and bright aging curve. Can't wait to see how this continues to mature. (96 pts.)
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#2 Post by J. Rock » May 22nd, 2020, 5:45 pm

I feel like the 2001s in general will last forever. Thanks for the note!
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#3 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » May 22nd, 2020, 5:58 pm

Unburied a box with several bottles of 2001 Selbach-Oster. Will be diving in during June.
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#4 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 22nd, 2020, 6:05 pm

Looking forward to those notes David!
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2017 Goodfellow Family Cellars Durant Vineyard Chardonnay
2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
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#5 Post by David K o l i n » May 22nd, 2020, 6:21 pm

Such a wonderful wine

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#6 Post by eweininger » May 22nd, 2020, 6:28 pm

I wasn’t collecting wine when these were released, but I do remember when they were easily available in the secondary market for around $50. Really wishing I had tracked down at least a couple, but alas, never pulled the trigger.
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#7 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » May 22nd, 2020, 6:29 pm

On release this was under $30. Buying a solid case got them for under $25.
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#8 Post by J.Vizuete » May 22nd, 2020, 6:31 pm

That’s a lovely note, Brian
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#9 Post by eweininger » May 22nd, 2020, 6:41 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 6:29 pm
On release this was under $30. Buying a solid case got them for under $25.
That hurts.
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#10 Post by Dennis Atick » May 22nd, 2020, 6:43 pm

Great wine. Glad to have a few more. Terrific note, Brian! Cheers.
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#11 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 22nd, 2020, 6:45 pm

Dennis Atick wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 6:43 pm
Great wine. Glad to have a few more. Terrific note, Brian! Cheers.
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#12 Post by RyanC » May 22nd, 2020, 6:46 pm

Phenomenal. I still try to buy '01s whenever I find them. They're still silly cheap for the quality.
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#13 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 22nd, 2020, 6:50 pm

The K&L auction for three bottles right now is going for crazy pricing.
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#14 Post by RyanC » May 22nd, 2020, 7:00 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 6:50 pm
The K&L auction for three bottles right now is going for crazy pricing.
Wow. Just looked. That's wild. I've purchased this wine for ~$60-70/btl in the last year. Just yesterday Benchmark offered 10 bottles of '01 JJ Prum G-H Auslese for $59/btl (unfortunately I saw the email too late).

All of that said, it's hard to say that $170/btl is unreasonable in the context of the broader wine world. Where else can you get a 20-year-old wine from a legendary producer in an epic vintage that's virtually guaranteed to be good?
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#15 Post by Marshall Manning » May 22nd, 2020, 7:29 pm

Great TN, Brian. Wish I had some of this wine. I do have one bottle of the '01 Badstube Spatlese left...I think I drank my others too early.

Any time someone complains about Prum (or other top quality German) pricing, look at it this way: What do people pay for absolute top-quality Burgundy, Bordeaux, Sauternes, or Cote-Rotie? German Riesling seems cheap. And compared to what people pay for CA Cabs that I couldn't even finish a glass of... Prum is like the DRC or Latour of the Mosel. It's still a bargain.
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#16 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 22nd, 2020, 8:37 pm

Not only Prum, but many other great riesling producers can be bought for a song and make wines that will age gloriously.
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#17 Post by Andrew K. » May 23rd, 2020, 6:39 am

RyanC wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 7:00 pm
it's hard to say that $170/btl is unreasonable
For a Spatlese? That's quite high. Maybe for an Auslese or GK that was immaculately stored. Maybe.
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#18 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » May 23rd, 2020, 7:35 am

Andrew K. wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:39 am
RyanC wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 7:00 pm
it's hard to say that $170/btl is unreasonable
For a Spatlese? That's quite high. Maybe for an Auslese or GK that was immaculately stored. Maybe.
Seen new release pricing for Egon Muller lately?
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#19 Post by eweininger » May 23rd, 2020, 7:45 am

Andrew K. wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:39 am
RyanC wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 7:00 pm
it's hard to say that $170/btl is unreasonable
For a Spatlese? That's quite high. Maybe for an Auslese or GK that was immaculately stored. Maybe.
The same auction has a lot composed of 01 WS Auslese sitting at a much lower per bottle cost with no bids. Is there something special about the spatlese in this vintage? Or is this just some weird auction thing?
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#20 Post by Andrew K. » May 23rd, 2020, 8:12 am

eweininger wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 7:45 am
The same auction has a lot composed of 01 WS Auslese sitting at a much lower per bottle cost with no bids. Is there something special about the spatlese in this vintage? Or is this just some weird auction thing?
Not for me. You can see my TN on all 3 here: viewtopic.php?t=170015
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#21 Post by R. Frankel » May 23rd, 2020, 8:57 am

There have been 11 auctions on this Spätlese this year at K&L and prices, while all over the place, have moved steadily upwards. Plus there are multiple threads here about how great this wine is. Don’t know if it’s our fault but tiny supply, big demand spike, and outliers like this appear. I’ve bid on a few of these auctions at what I thought should be winning prices and been surprised at how much higher some of these lots went. The secret is definitely out on this wine!
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#22 Post by J. Rock » May 23rd, 2020, 9:06 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 7:35 am
Andrew K. wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:39 am
RyanC wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 7:00 pm
it's hard to say that $170/btl is unreasonable
For a Spatlese? That's quite high. Maybe for an Auslese or GK that was immaculately stored. Maybe.
Seen new release pricing for Egon Muller lately?
No, but I'm sure it's overpriced. I haven't had any with a lot of age on it, so maybe that's what I'm missing, but with so many really great Spatlese's for a fraction of the price, Egon's doesn't make sense to me.
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#23 Post by eweininger » May 23rd, 2020, 9:51 am

Andrew K. wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 8:12 am
eweininger wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 7:45 am
The same auction has a lot composed of 01 WS Auslese sitting at a much lower per bottle cost with no bids. Is there something special about the spatlese in this vintage? Or is this just some weird auction thing?
Not for me. You can see my TN on all 3 here: viewtopic.php?t=170015
Yeah, kind of had your recent notes in mind.

I'm glad K & L doesn't ship to my state. Already got "the look" once today as a fed ex guy arrived.
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